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medal 5000
6 years 76 days ago
I’m guessing it was decided not to let the suppliers push the cars above the max design cap? Shame, I would have liked the extra strategy choices.
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medal 5086
6 years 76 days ago
so its only available till race 9 of season then as all the main 5-6 areas at maxxed out by then so suppliers don't matter any more after that.
Still be good start of seasons though with this
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medal 5073 CEO & CTO
6 years 76 days ago
We can look at reducing the designs people start with, the impacts of research or other factors if you're maxed out by race 9. Open to suggestions (in the suggestions forum). :)

The cap of 100 isn't flexible at the moment for technical reasons. It may be something we revisit also if it's a popular idea.
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medal 5000
6 years 76 days ago
Gary
so its only available till race 9 of season then as all the main 5-6 areas at maxxed out by then so suppliers don't matter any more after that.
Still be good start of seasons though with this
50

Wait, so it means that if i have maxed 50 acceleration on Rookie league is a waste to put all 3suppliers on acc? it rockets me from 50 to 67!
Someone can plz help me?
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medal 5086
6 years 76 days ago
Jack
We can look at reducing the designs people start with, the impacts of research or other factors if you're maxed out by race 9. Open to suggestions (in the suggestions forum). :)

The cap of 100 isn't flexible at the moment for technical reasons. It may be something we revisit also if it's a popular idea.




Lowering the start designs would help as it would prolong the supplier effects a bit plus it would have a bonus of it being 'slightly' easier to change to a new league as peoples 1% car wouldn't be quite as far away.


its pretty easy to get the main ones to 100 by round 9 and an extra one to 100 for race 10 (ffor a level 18+ team anyway,dont know about lower level teams), the other attributes dont seem to make much difference.
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medal 5000
6 years 76 days ago
Hi Jack,

I'm liking the update to the suppliers, however I couldn't help but notice (also with your comment above) that with an area of development that has a minus, we won't be able to reach max design?

For example, after the change, I had -8 for acceleration against my points (99). With the upgrade I could still only add 1pt to it, making the maximum I can achieve for that area of research 92.
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medal 5086
6 years 76 days ago
Jean
Gary
so its only available till race 9 of season then as all the main 5-6 areas at maxxed out by then so suppliers don't matter any more after that.
Still be good start of seasons though with this
50

Wait, so it means that if i have maxed 50 acceleration on Rookie league is a waste to put all 3suppliers on acc? it rockets me from 50 to 67!
Someone can plz help me?


Just Elite with the max level of 100, pro & rookie go beyond there caps
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medal 5000
6 years 76 days ago
Gary
Jean
Gary
so its only available till race 9 of season then as all the main 5-6 areas at maxxed out by then so suppliers don't matter any more after that.
Still be good start of seasons though with this
50

Wait, so it means that if i have maxed 50 acceleration on Rookie league is a waste to put all 3suppliers on acc? it rockets me from 50 to 67!
Someone can plz help me?


Just Elite with the max level of 100, pro & rookie go beyond there caps


Awesome, thanks man!
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medal 5086
6 years 76 days ago
Jack,
Have you not let it go passed 100 out of choice or because it has technical reason that will crash the game or lots of coding etc,

If its because you can't literally do it at the moment surely an easier work around would be to put a cap on elite tier design like you have done in Rookie & Pro tier, in pro its capped at 80 but with suppliers u can get a part to 94, which means this supplier update works wayyyyy better in Rookie & pro tier.
Why not cap Elite Design at 85 or 90 instead of 100 so suppliers can make a difference for the whole season or longer at least.

If u did that you would definitely have to reduce the starting design though as you will make maximum of 85 even quicker but at least suppliers take effect…
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medal 5000
6 years 75 days ago
I don't know if I understand you guys. In Rookie the cap is 50 design points. That means that if I have 50 points in acceleration and I have Murc as engine provider, I won't get more than 50 points even in the design appears 60 points?
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medal 5000
6 years 75 days ago
Gary
Jean
Gary
so its only available till race 9 of season then as all the main 5-6 areas at maxxed out by then so suppliers don't matter any more after that.
Still be good start of seasons though with this
50

Wait, so it means that if i have maxed 50 acceleration on Rookie league is a waste to put all 3suppliers on acc? it rockets me from 50 to 67!
Someone can plz help me?


Just Elite with the max level of 100, pro & rookie go beyond there caps


If I understand you well, I have to say no: I've reached 100 in developing engine. As far as I can see when I change engine to others than Murk, I will lose my points.

Engine is Murk now, no matter if I put Cosuworthit, it will get 100 (110 including Murk). With Tifosi I'll get 97 points.
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medal 5086
6 years 75 days ago (edited 6 years 75 days ago)
Ron
I don't know if I understand you guys. In Rookie the cap is 50 design points. That means that if I have 50 points in acceleration and I have Murc as engine provider, I won't get more than 50 points even in the design appears 60 points?


Its only Elite that is Banned :p from using suppliers properly, Rookie & Pro can go beyond there caps (50 for rookie, 80 for pro), using your example if u have 50 design points on Acceleration Plus Murk engine then you will have 60 points on Acceleration.
Same for Pro.

But in Elite if u have 100 design points Then add 10 for Murk then its still stuck at 100..... Minus's still work though.
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medal 5000
6 years 75 days ago
Gary
Ron
I don't know if I understand you guys. In Rookie the cap is 50 design points. That means that if I have 50 points in acceleration and I have Murc as engine provider, I won't get more than 50 points even in the design appears 60 points?


Its only Elite that is Banned from using suppliers properly, Rookie & Pro can go beyond there caps (50 for rookie, 80 for pro), using your example if u have 50 design points on Acceleration Plus Murk engine then you will have 64 points on Acceleration.
Same for Pro.

But in Elite if u have 100 design points Then add 10 for Murk then its still stuck at 100..... Minus's still work though.


Understood, thanks!
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medal 5000
6 years 74 days ago
My question is, when i see in review or my opponents see the review page what are we see? for example the design points which we got without suppliers or with suppliers?
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medal 6063
6 years 73 days ago
Daniel
My question is, when i see in review or my opponents see the review page what are we see? for example the design points which we got without suppliers or with suppliers?


Right now you see the base design that your opponents have on their car, without seeing their suppliers' strengths or weaknesses applied to the car. I've spoken to Jack about this and we will decide on the best way to display these values, whether it should show bonuses/weaknesses in the Research dialog or not.
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medal 5000
6 years 73 days ago
thnx for the response. i think not seeing makes it more interesting. but do it as you see it best! :)
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medal 5000
6 years 72 days ago
Yunus
Daniel
My question is, when i see in review or my opponents see the review page what are we see? for example the design points which we got without suppliers or with suppliers?


Right now you see the base design that your opponents have on their car, without seeing their suppliers' strengths or weaknesses applied to the car. I've spoken to Jack about this and we will decide on the best way to display these values, whether it should show bonuses/weaknesses in the Research dialog or not.


Now i see only the base design of my opponents but i can understand if someone have a stranghts because if i flag the research on that skill i can have a improvement also if i have the best car in that skill...
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