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medal 5000
12 years 199 days ago
Is it possible to implement a system where you can, before the race, set different push levels for certain laps under the "next race" section where you do your setups?

Would be a really handy feature if you had outside plans and knew you weren't going to make it home in time for the race.

eg: Let's (keeping it simple) say you have a 50 lap race, and you plan on doing 4 stops / 5 stints @ 10 laps each

Being able to preset it to 5/5 for your out and in laps (lap 1 & 10, lap 11 & 20, lap 21 & 30, lap 31 & 40, lap 41 & 50), and then being able to set 2/5 for all the laps in between?
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medal 5000
12 years 199 days ago
I know it wouldn't be a perfect system (and I don't even know if this is possible?), but it would certainly help the guys who can't be at their computer during a race. I've found some races without 2D where you can't control your push level can be up to 30-45 seconds slower over a whole race.
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medal 5000
12 years 199 days ago
i like it, just the ability to choose wen you want your driver to push or not when you can't make it to the race
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medal 5000
12 years 199 days ago
Yeah, basically. The main purpose is just to help with those blue tyre laps. You lose so much time if you aren't there to make them push.
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medal 5000
12 years 199 days ago
Of course this is possible. I will talk to Andrew and Jack and we will see if that will come in a quarterly update.
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medal 5000
12 years 199 days ago
Wow, that's good to hear! Cheers :D
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medal 5000
12 years 199 days ago
Personally I would say that this system will be with ranges.
From lap a to lap b: push hard
From lap c to lap t: ease off
From lap u to z: push hard
Should be the best implementation
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medal 5000
12 years 199 days ago
Yeah there could be a ton of ways to implement it I suppose, but the main idea would just be so you can atleast get your driver to 5/5 push for the first and last laps of each stint etc, and then back off to the appropriate push level instead of just running somewhere in the middle where you run cold for too many laps and then overheat for too many laps, lol.
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medal 5000
12 years 198 days ago
Yeh, this has been discussed before and I think it might be something the devs are looking at.

Some of the discussion against this was along the lines of "if you can do that before-hand what is the point of buying to have 2D?"

At the moment I think the devs are still gathering peoples thoughts on the idea so any discussion is useful.
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medal 5000
12 years 198 days ago
2D would still be an advantage - Manual control of KERS and you still get to see your tyres live and control the push to the second.

This implementation would just be a lap to lap, roughly guessed approximation. It wouldn't be flawless but it would certainly help those blue tyre laps.

Besides - I don't see how this would stop people buying 2D. I would imagine most of the people who would take advantage of this would be people who know they aren't going to be home. I mean I'm a subscriber so it doesn't really matter to me, but even if I wasn't, I'd still prefer to use live timing than I would preset configs.
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medal 6098 CEO & CTO
12 years 198 days ago
This was in the game in the beta and was removed because it made the strategy screen quite complicated and nobody really used it with live controls being available. Tyres weren't as critical back then though, so there would be more purpose to it now.

It's only a suggestion at this stage, not something we are looking to re-implement, unless there is significant demand. I have to point this out, because it's easy for the speculation of what might be done to get carried away and people believe we are working on it when we haven't said that.
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medal 5000
12 years 198 days ago
How would you grasp the demand though? I'm sure there are tonnes of users who would probably use it nowadays, but they probably don't even use the forums. Is there any way to release a questionaire or something to all the users (via PM would maybe be the best way to get a response?) before the next update? Asking different questions and asking for any suggestions?

I'm a subscriber and 2D user but I sure as hell would use this function. My league is really early in the morning for me - It sure does make it hard to be there for the start of the race in the weekends ;) Haha..

Plus it's just the safety factor if you aren't going to be there for the race - Using one push level for the whole race is basically race over. In the league i'm in you might as well not even set a strategy because you'll be so slow in comparison to the other 2D users.
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medal 5000
12 years 196 days ago
"Jason
2D would still be an advantage - Manual control of KERS and you still get to see your tyres live and control the push to the second.



This implementation would just be a lap to lap, roughly guessed approximation. It wouldn't be flawless but it would certainly help those blue tyre laps.



Besides - I don't see how this would stop people buying 2D. I would imagine most of the people who would take advantage of this would be people who know they aren't going to be home. I mean I'm a subscriber so it doesn't really matter to me, but even if I wasn't, I'd still prefer to use live timing than I would preset configs.


Well to be honest, you can take a couple of seasons paying for 2D and making notes on what laps you change push settings for each race then stop subscribing and live off that data. Would be as good as having a subscription but none of the cost. So i'd be against it for that reason.
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medal 5000
12 years 196 days ago
How does that differ from now Jaxon? I don't think you get my point entirely?

If you've been a subscriber before, you can do exactly that right now. You can use the 1D controls (as a free user) and change your push level to suit, so how does this differ at all?

The implementation I'm talking about would only be used when people can't be at their computer for the race. I don't see how being a paying subscriber comes into it. Free users already have the ability to change their push levels. This would benefit everyone.

Besides, manual operation of kers is still a must have feature imo. I'd subscribe purely for that. Now that I've been using it for a few seasons, having control of it really can be the difference between a win or a loss in many situations.
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medal 5000
12 years 196 days ago
Also thinking about it Jack - I dare say that the reason it probably wasn't highly used was because back then (in beta stages) was because people had no idea what to set the push levels to. I think now everyone has a much better understanding of the game, and they could work it a little better.
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medal 5000
12 years 196 days ago
i think it should stay how it is. encouraging people to actually attend races rather than put the car on "auto pilot"
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medal 5235
12 years 195 days ago
Suggestion to improve on this;
Technical Director can have a statistic which would have him communicate with the driver while you are not there to guide the driver into pushing hard or ease off etc.
The attribute would increase as the TD does. In that end, a lower attribute would account for less focus or awareness of the tire state, and a higher would increase that accuracy of getting tires to temperature and of instead of a 5 button press, there could be a slider of 100% Back off <- 0% Hold Position -> 100% Push Hard.

The % would influence tire temperatures and use of the tires. Also a further addition is to add C temperatures ot the tires to allow more accurate readings instead of a colour-changing feature which baffles with some people's eyesight.

I'll add this to a new technical post in suggestions for Car information for subbed users and free users.
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medal 5000
12 years 195 days ago
I think this is a great idea - there's always times when you know you won't be able to make it online to see the race live.  This gives you some way to remain competitive in those races.
But no matter how well you plan, it will never be as good as the perfect strategy because there's always some variation with the weather.

Also as an answer to the "is it fair to subscribers?" argument, I think (as a non-subscriber) that it is.  This is a benefit to anybody/everybody who can't be at a race - subscriber or not, but in neither case is it an improvement to being online and able to react with the existing levels of control.
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