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medal 5000
5 years 284 days ago
Something needs to be done regarding rookies.

I had to kick 10 managers due to i activity at the end of the season and this is the same story every season.

We do now need game run rookie tier so that managers are not constantly battling inactives, if no rookie tier thrn there needs to be a number of game run races you need to do before you enter a league.

All that hwppens now is many leagues look half empty due to new players making an account to earn rewrds on other games or signing up and not returning, if theses are weeded out on the games auro tier thrn anyone joining a league will be active making better leaguds and racing.
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medal 5000
5 years 284 days ago
Just in case anyone doesn't understand the extent of this issue

Yep, 42 managers, which means that 26 (over half) of them were kicked by the end of the season.

I'll accept that activity is better as you get to races closer to 23:00 gmt but something still has to be done about 18:00 gmt because as Dan has said, we are losing too many players!
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medal 5000
5 years 284 days ago
We kick inactive rookies every two days,  then u get new teams that might play 1 or 2 races, throughout the whole season and then u hope  one stays active.  That way your active players dont play against a half full league. 
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medal 5000
5 years 283 days ago
Even kicking every 2 days does not help, we tried that then went to 5 days then left it till season break so that promotion and relegation wasnt affected.

If rookie auto leagues are a no no then please go to a 2 tier system, removing a tier will mean more drivers are put into each tier.

Keep elite.

Merge rookie and pro this doubles drivers in this tier filling leagues.

For new players they should need to enter a simple auto 5 race league to learn basics then they are told they must find a league to join.

If they leave thebgame they are not in a league and do not impact it, if they join a leaguenafter 5 races chances are they are staying.

Please look into this problem.
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medal 5000
5 years 283 days ago
While I'm reading your suggestion I'm wondering if would be possible and good (or not) to introduce that separate mode with "teachers", something like Batracer has. Where it's the same car, but you have the rookie+the teacher, the last one has a penalty in his speed, etc. The goal of the teacher is that, teach, try to help the rookie to understand every single thing in the game, understand every aspect and make him a better manager in every area.

Obviously this would be a different "game mode" and would need to implement the possibility to the manager (teachers) to be able to join to a second league in the same account, with limitations and so on obviously (only being able to do that in "rookie leagues" etc).

Would need some important extra work from devs sadly, looks easy in the paper but complex to do.
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medal 5003
5 years 283 days ago

Dan
If rookie auto leagues are a no no then please go to a 2 tier system, removing a tier will mean more drivers are put into each tier.

Keep elite.

Merge rookie and pro this doubles drivers in this tier filling leagues.

If the developers merged Rookie and Pro this might introduce another problem which would turn people away from the game? With only two tiers it would be possible for a newbie to gain promotion to Elite after only a couple of seasons. If the Elite tier is fairly active, no matter how good the low level manager is, he/she would struggle. After a couple of seasons of running around at the back of the field the chances are the manager would give up.

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medal 5000
5 years 283 days ago
True but right now most leagues are only 2 tiers as the rookies are inactive,lol

The way it stands only 2 get promoted so new players run at the back anyway but if they were in elite, they may get relegated but a year of levelling up with players far ahead would help them massivley, perhaps more need to be promoted and relegated to give ppl more of a chance.

Just think there needs to be more done to stop ppl making an account then not showing having such a big influence on a league, perhaps allow promotion no matter how many in your league so even if its 5 players 2 still go up.
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medal 5000
5 years 283 days ago
How does kicking inactive rookies affect your promotion relegation?  For 1 there is no relegation, for second the active teams are going to fight for the promotions , the newbies iff become active will be fighting for it the next season.   Going from 2 to 5 and back to the full season is why ur rookie is inactive,  kicking every 2 days will make that history becuase u always have teams playing. Because u rotate the inactives out.  

The big impact is only because u dont rotate them out.  I dont hear any rookie complaining in our league nor have they done that in my old self run league. Which had an every day flow of newbies.     Ur never gonna have more then 5 active rookies at any given time, its up to the league admin to keep the flow coming.. 
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medal 5000
5 years 283 days ago
jerry 
How does kicking inactive rookies affect your promotion relegation?  For 1 there is no relegation, for second the active teams are going to fight for the promotions , the newbies iff become active will be fighting for it the next season.   Going from 2 to 5 and back to the full season is why ur rookie is inactive,  kicking every 2 days will make that history becuase u always have teams playing. Because u rotate the inactives out.  

The big impact is only because u dont rotate them out.  I dont hear any rookie complaining in our league nor have they done that in my old self run league. Which had an every day flow of newbies.     Ur never gonna have more then 5 active rookies at any given time, its up to the league admin to keep the flow coming.. 



Technically you should be gaining more active players from pro and not be stuck at five active rookies but this isn't the case anymore. Just because this is true doesn't make it right and imo something has to be changed about how rookie tier works because the game has way too many players that literally leave the game after 2 months of playing.


Kicking aggressively helps in one way and hurts in another: maybe that rookie was actually quite active but just couldn't attend their first race, oops too late, you're gone! But I'll accept that it keeps the most active people there and surrounded by the same amount of inactives every season while also completely stunting the growth of the league.

@Dan, tbh I can't quite truly understand your idea. Introduce new guys to much faster opponents in their first race? Sure it'll get them experience and rp but it could also discourage them from wanting to continuing to race. I'm sure as a league owner you've seen many occasions where the best from rookie gets promoted and then destroyed in the tier above. To give this rookie the ability to go straight to elite would be suicide and to give elites the opportunity to move down into such a tier would be terrible for the new guys too.

I think the best and most reliable thing iGP can do to fix the problem league hosts have with rookies is to create compulsory
casual races for noobs and fix the damned league search page which is officially the stupidest league related feature in the game
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medal 5000
5 years 283 days ago (edited 5 years 283 days ago)
Well the way i noticed with rookies not showing first 2 races will never show up again.    So tbats why keeping them makes no sense at all.

The rookie auto league might be a good idea,  after 5 races u get your license to race for real and find a league.  That would save a lot of effort for league admins to.   It would however have to be that a race u didnt attend and didnt do setup and strategie.   It would not count towards the  5,  otherwise u will still get inactive rookie teams
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