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medal 5000
5 years 218 days ago
Does the weight of a driver affect the overall level of the driver. For example if focusnon physical training will the driver gain levels if the driver is just cutting weight?
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medal 5005
5 years 218 days ago
It makes only a little difference to driver level (and therefore training speed). This is why it's a good tactic to train Physical first until weight is minimum and stamina is 20 before moving on to train driving attributes.
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medal 5000
5 years 218 days ago
Yes and time :)
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medal 5005
5 years 218 days ago
It makes only a little difference to driver level (and therefore training speed). This is why it's a good tactic to train Physical first until weight is minimum and stamina is 20 before moving on to train driving attributes.
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medal 5000
5 years 218 days ago
Yes also if you do it the other way around by training driving ability etc first and maxing it the weight doesn't always reduce to its lowest possible....Unfortunately did this once and had to move the driver on.
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medal 6770 Super Mod
5 years 217 days ago
Shaun
Yes and time :)

I'm sorry to say that, but I've been racing with a max weight (92 kg) driver and he didn't lose any performance when compared to another one (63 kg)


So, it only affects what Kevin said (training speed)
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medal 5000
5 years 217 days ago
So your saying reducing drivers weight does not gain any extra performance at all?
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medal 6770 Super Mod
5 years 216 days ago
yep.
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medal 5000
5 years 216 days ago
So when you get driver stamina to 20 leave weight and move over to ability or mental is that a correct understanding
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medal 5086
5 years 216 days ago
Every 1kg of driver weight extra or less should affect car performance in the same way that fuel does. 
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medal 5000
5 years 216 days ago
Of course it matters, it wouldnt be trainable if it didnt.

Heavy drivers will always be slower if all other attributes are the same.
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medal 5005
5 years 216 days ago
@Dan.

I assume you never played the previous version of this game. There were trainable driver attributes in that version which slowed the driver down if you trained them.

That said, I still take my drivers down to minimum weight because.... Well it seems the right thing to do, but I have no evidence it actually makes them any faster. Whereas it appears Gustavo has evidence that it doesn't.
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medal 5000
5 years 216 days ago
Yeah suppose it's just the done thing....when I was learning the ropes it's something I was told and obviously would make sense...less weight etc
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medal 5000
5 years 215 days ago
If you work on fuel consumption to lower weight then loweribgva drivers weight mmakes sense too.

Nope i never played the old version but if its true that some training made the driver slower then no wonder thats an old version, thats silly.

That said, this game is from what ive heard is much simpler than the old version, so the 5hings they have left in it must matter or why leave it in.

But who knows on this game.
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medal 5000
5 years 214 days ago

Der
Every 1kg of driver weight extra or less should affect car performance in the same way that fuel does. 



Yes! but heavier driver are faster in wet weather and other conditions the same as before updates
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medal 5086
5 years 214 days ago
Poppy Eye, so you could load up with extra fuel, say 20+ litres and manually pit when your tyres are done..the extra weight would counteract your skinny drivers weight disadvantage. Genius.
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medal 6094 Super Mod
5 years 214 days ago

Der
Every 1kg of driver weight extra or less should affect car performance in the same way that fuel does. 



I completely disagree. Car+driver is normally below the minimum allowed weight, so teams add ballast to the car to bring it to the minimum weight. If the driver has a lower weight, more ballast can be placed where the team wants and potentially create a better balanced and slightly faster car. But 1kg extra on a driver has absolutely not the same effect as 1kg of extra fuel.
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medal 6770 Super Mod
5 years 214 days ago
All my answers were based on the question: "Does the weight affect race pace?"

About the other question: "Should we train drivers weight to the minimum?" My answer is yes, because we can have this attribute coded to the game someday, and as we already know it is currently impossible to reduce drivers weight when all the others attributes are level 20.
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medal 5000
5 years 208 days ago (edited 5 years 208 days ago)
Gert

Der
Every 1kg of driver weight extra or less should affect car performance in the same way that fuel does. 



I completely disagree. Car+driver is normally below the minimum allowed weight, so teams add ballast to the car to bring it to the minimum weight. If the driver has a lower weight, more ballast can be placed where the team wants and potentially create a better balanced and slightly faster car. But 1kg extra on a driver has absolutely not the same effect as 1kg of extra fuel.


I dont understand why u guys treat these topics as if we are in formula 1. In igp manager (which is the game we're playing) there is no added weight unless u are too high level for the division u are. No car + driver is 'light' or under minimumweight here and cars are not being balanced. So physics should see 1 kg extra bodyweight the same as 1 kg extra fuel (Imo). Even tho the physics of fluids n bodyweight are not completely the same and the person is not exactly in the same place as the fueltank, but then again. This is not formula 1. So all speculation above can be dismissed, all we want to know is does the code account for driver weight or is it just a cosmetic feature? 


Its such a simple question. The only one with a straight (dont know of its correct or not) answer ive seen so far was gustavo's. And there have been a lot of topics on the subject where admins beat around the bush or, like here, bring up all sorts of aspects from formula1 that have nothing to do with the game or the question...

So. Does driver weight affect the racespeed n laptimes?
I guess ill just have to find n stalk some people with heavy n light drivers n see how they do. Even tho everyone trains all drivers to a minimum weight level cus it should b common sense. 

So far ive noticed my girl (whos lighter) is always faster in training and qualify if setup the same way. Every single time. So common sense again says yes. It does matter. In race it can be affected by a lot of different factors which might not give a clear picture.
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medal 5005
5 years 208 days ago
Bo. The original question from Dominic was "does the weight of the driver affect their level?" I answered this in the third post.
All this talk about weight influencing speed is off topic. The only people that will be able to give a definitive answer to this are the devs and they're not likely to start telling us all how the game is coded, it's up to us to experiment and find out. So the best answer to the off topic discussion is from Gustavo who's response is evidence based.
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medal 6770 Super Mod
5 years 208 days ago
I'm closing this topic, thanks Kevin to point out that we are off topic here.

Just for one last information, I'll link one entire season of one team that I have testing

Rocha - 92kg (MAX in the game) - https://igpmanager.com/app/d=driver&id=5136970 - Level 20
Filho - 63kg - https://igpmanager.com/app/d=driver&id=5136291 - Level 18

Australia: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347367&tab=race
Malaysia: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347370&tab=race
China: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347373&tab=race
Bahrain: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347376&tab=race
Spain: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347379&tab=race
Monaco: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347382&tab=race
Turkey: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347385&tab=race
Great Britain: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347388&tab=race
German: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347391&tab=race
Hungary: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347394&tab=race
Europe: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347397&tab=race
Belgium: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347400&tab=race
Italy: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347406&tab=race
Singapore: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347409&tab=race
Japan: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347412&tab=race
Brazil: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347415&tab=race
Abu Dhabi: https://igpmanager.com/app/d=result&id=19347418&tab=race


If you're going to look deep on this, please don't use only final times, because I'm often testing there and they can be doing same amount of pits, same push level, but with different tyres fitted on cars.
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