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medal 5235
12 years 128 days ago
KERS change would be really good thing. On the reason of people keeping it for final laps and not racing, they're after achievements and blocking access for other players who want to join the league and race competively.

Could we please have KERS scaled back to a 6.67 second rule and replenish every lap? People saving 1min KERS at the end of the race is rather anti-climatic.
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medal 5000
12 years 128 days ago
Wouldn't kers every lap make it damn near impossible to DRS someone? Everyone would just kers in the DRS zone, and DRS is pretty ineffective, so positions would barely change?

I could be wrong though.
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medal 5235
12 years 128 days ago
[list]
[*]KERS is faster than DRS
[*]DRS and KERS is Faster than KERS or DRS.
[*]KERS is used to gain DRS alot
[*]KERS is used to prevent DRS alot
[*]KERS is used to defend against DRS alot
[*]KERS is used to overtake
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I see your arguement, but with team orders as an other previous request, you could set your driver's behaviour of using KERS to execute this.

Buffing DRS may help this a bit more so that KERS can't be used to defend against a DRS overtake as easy. A nice nerf tbh.

Overal Racing Times would increase, less Super Fast Laps and more competitivity between teams instead of those who wish to just use KERS when using the last litres of fuel to finish the line.

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medal 5000
12 years 128 days ago
"David


But I thought the point in this (retarded) suggestion was that it keeps getting used unsportingly.

So what if people want to do Kers laps, it will only effect and ruin their own finishing spot in the race. A % of kers every lap is a stupid idea.
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medal 5235
12 years 128 days ago (edited 12 years 128 days ago)
Team Order controls I'd like to see.

Toggle On/Off
[list]
[*]Let Teammate Pass
[*]Setup for DRS
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Multiple Settings
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[*]Fuel Mode Setting: 1 to 5 (use less or more fuel)
[*]Engine Mode Setting: 1 to 5 (use less or more engine power, more increases engine wear, overuse can cause engine failure)
[*]Aggression Level: Defend - Racing Line - Overtake (1-5)
[*]Push Level: Current effects
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medal 5235
12 years 128 days ago
"Chris

"David





But I thought the point in this (retarded) suggestion was that it keeps getting used unsportingly.


Firstly mate, I am going out of my way to make this reply towards you. You are an annoying little pitiful excuse of a human being who continues to do no favours for yourself in our community. I've heard from other managers on the game that you are very annoying to deal with and even a few moderators are really concerned about your behaviour. While no action for whatever reason has not been made against you, you sir are the most annoying individual I have ever met on here. You pushed my tolerance over you to a point where I really don't give at all a shred of care of how I am penalized for what I am saying to you now. You offend people with your comments, and you exploit the game with using subscriber from one account to feed your other account 2D data. Not only that but you go around attacking my partner who loves this game through her love of watching formula one, who is disgusted by your behaviour, who doesn't like talking on the game or attending races cause she feels putting up with scum like you is not worth her time anymore, she no longer actively plays this game due to the decisions of the helpdesk. You sir are a scumbag that crawls onto here and ruins a happy community who communicates with dignity and respect to others. While no-one is perfect, you sir are far from it.

Secondly, yes it's there loss but it isn't what the system is intended to do. Those individuals can make their times on quiet leagues instead of wasting the spots that other managers come to play for competivity.
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medal 5000
12 years 127 days ago
"Chris
So what if people want to do Kers laps, it will only effect and ruin their own finishing spot in the race


This. It's slower overall to do that so surely you'd want people to do that? You say people just want achievements but this suggestion sounds like that's all you want too.
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medal 5000
12 years 127 days ago
Use PM's for all your nontopical discussions please, thank you.

@David: the 6.67s rule has proven to be rather silly in practise.. People were just KERSing at the same point every lap and no one really gained anything with it. The way it is implemented now makes it much more a strategical tool. So what if people use it for the last lap and get a fastest lap with that? I've won races by using KERS at strategical points in the race, ie. to keep up with my competition when I didn't have the pace (during long stints / heavy fuel loads, different tyre type, etc.). I didn't get fastest lap, but that's normally not the goal anyway, is it?
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medal 5000
12 years 127 days ago
In all fairness, get pole and you're 80% of the way to the win anyway.
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medal 5000
12 years 127 days ago
+1 Rene
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medal 5000
12 years 126 days ago
"Jaxon

"Chris
So what if people want to do Kers laps, it will only effect and ruin their own finishing spot in the race




This. It's slower overall to do that so surely you'd want people to do that? You say people just want achievements but this suggestion sounds like that's all you want too.

+1 on both comments here.

The times I have ended up saving up my Kers for a Kers lap, the particular driver is a good distance behind a driver who happens to be battling throughout the race with me trying to use my KERS as tactically as possible. Tactical KERS can win or lose a race when you're in a very competitive position with competitive opponents. Choosing where on the track to use 6sec of KERS on Monaco 70 times over, well everyone's just gonna be in the same boat, and it will nullify the tactical side of this feature

Sure, it's not like the real thing but unless the whole AI KERS-ing will get a complete code change for this new idea, I can't see it being a change for the good.
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medal 5000
12 years 126 days ago
I don't see a problem. It is the choice of the player to use it throughout the race or on the last lap´. To be honest I did a kers lap at the end of today's race because I felt like I didn't need kers at all during the race as my strategical position granted me much more time than clevered kers usage would, so why would I bother? 6.67 seconds every lap would accomplish nothing, whereas the current system places the importance on the managerial/strategical side of the tool, rather than just have the driver use it automatically on the same spots over and over and over.

And on the regards of the kers lap being slower, I must add that I won a race last monday because I saved up my kers for the penultimate lap when my opponent's tyres went red and overtook him on the last corner of the last lap. I highly doubt I'd have made it had I spent my kers in the beginning of the race
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medal 5000
12 years 124 days ago
"Guilherme
I don't see a problem. It is the choice of the player to use it throughout the race or on the last lap´. To be honest I did a kers lap at the end of today's race because I felt like I didn't need kers at all during the race as my strategical position granted me much more time than clevered kers usage would, so why would I bother? 6.67 seconds every lap would accomplish nothing, whereas the current system places the importance on the managerial/strategical side of the tool, rather than just have the driver use it automatically on the same spots over and over and over.



And on the regards of the kers lap being slower, I must add that I won a race last monday because I saved up my kers for the penultimate lap when my opponent's tyres went red and overtook him on the last corner of the last lap. I highly doubt I'd have made it had I spent my kers in the beginning of the race


I think alot of the time though, if you overtake somebody on a kers lap then you're most likely only taking a position you'd have already been in had you used it more regularly during the race.




Also why was my reply to David deleted but not his cry for attention?
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medal 5000
12 years 124 days ago

But I thought the point in this (retarded) suggestion was that it keeps getting used unsportingly.


So what if people want to do Kers laps, it will only effect and ruin their own finishing spot in the race. A % of kers every lap is a stupid idea.

So stupid it's used in Formula 1. 

Saving masses of KERS for the last lap is stupid. Great point David, lets hope those in power are watching and can sort this out.

Supersonic KERS on the last lap is ridiculous
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medal 5000
12 years 124 days ago
i nearly every race i have even been in or watched the person in front has always used kers on the last lap and just set a stupid time the only way to stop that would be to limit the amount of kers you can have or limit the amount of kers you can use per lap i see no reason why it would be a "stupid idea" as some on here have suggested i expect they are the ones setting the crazy fast laps at the end of a race
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medal 5000
12 years 124 days ago
Thank you Matthew Smith for summing my thoughts up nicely

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medal 5000
12 years 124 days ago
Last lap kers lap is just a strategy to try and acheive WR lap.

Racing against same level & cars you will get slaughtered and only pull back maybe a position or two at the very end but miss out a lot from defending throughout the race.

If you are running away with the race, and still have time to do a KERS lap, then either your opponents are seriously underperforming, or your car is at least 30% better than the field. Saving KERS for last lap at the sacrifice of your other x amount of laps in the race is not a very good idea.

Already posted that, but I guess not everyone reads the rest of the replies.
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medal 5000
12 years 124 days ago (edited 12 years 124 days ago)
I use 90% of my KERS in the 1st 5 to 10 laps if I'm on hards and having to get in to a position to make them work against the softs.

It's only really when i'm using softs that I can hold my KERS for later in the race or sometime at the end few laps.


The only way is what has been said before. As you can't say that your diver will be forced use what ever is left within the last 10 laps. (balanced per lap) as they will use it with 11 or 12 laps left.





The only way you could try and make people use it before the end is to bring in the 2 compounds rule.

If everyone is forced to use hards at least once in a race, (Monaco excluded or re-worked.) Then they may be more inclined to use them to get hards heated quicker or defend from someone on softs for their stint..

idk.. might work.
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medal 5000
12 years 123 days ago
Another idea is to add KERS and DRS research.  

Yes you can unlock them but what about improving KERS performance?  

So you can start with a bad kers and improve it as the season goes.  
I also agree kers should work every lap improving the car lap time by a %. 

As 2D can use kers as he wishes the AI should have 3 options for the drivers that can´t see what is happening. 

A) Use it in the DRS straight,  (Would help him pass someone with DRS or defend its position).
B) Use it as soon it becomes available.  (So he would use at the start of every lap for a boost). 
C) Use when you try to pass someone (when he is faster and is under 1s from a driver using it to close the gap for a pass). 


For the DRS is more simple.  Just make it possible for us to improve it.  


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medal 5000
12 years 121 days ago (edited 12 years 121 days ago)
I can't stress how bad the idea is of having KERS reset every lap.
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