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medal 5000
12 years 17 days ago
I'm not really too fussed about it because I have already won the season, but I should report it none the less.

Basically my two drivers, identical strategies, identical push levels, identical fuel usage - My driver in P1 pit himself on the last lap (30/30 - 5 metres away from the finish line - I thought drivers couldn't pit on the last lap any way?) at Singapore with no warning - His pit light didn't even come on. It just went from the grey "PIT" to "IN PITS" ... There was no green light warning me he was pitting or anything.

Now going by my calculations, he would have had more than a litre left crossing the line any way, so there was no reason for him to pit in the first place.

My two drivers strategies:





@ Devs - Any ideas what has happened here?
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medal 5000
12 years 17 days ago
Driver error
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medal 5000
12 years 17 days ago
I highly doubt that - and if it was, that's a very stupid feature.
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medal 5000
12 years 16 days ago
What are the respective decisions ratings for each driver?
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medal 5000
12 years 16 days ago
The driver who didn't pit has 19, the driver who did pit has 14, although I think this is not the case. I've had this explained to me before, and last time it happened atleast the pit light came on so I knew he was coming into the pits. This didn't, the driver simply drove into the pits with no warning.

Besides the point any way - I thought drivers couldn't make pit stops on the last lap unless you force them to? That and the fact he would have had more than a litre spare crossing the line - It wasn't like he was running 0.1 or 0.2L close to running out. More than a litre is plenty...

Edit: In fact, if it was a decisions thing, he would have pit a lap early in the stint before because fuel was even tighter in that stint. I really think this is just a bug.
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medal 5000
12 years 16 days ago
Thanks a lot for the detailed feedback Eton.  I'll investigate this.
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medal 5000
12 years 15 days ago
An update to this Andrew. My driver just tried to do it again. Last lap 35/35, trying to pit from P1 with more than enough fuel left. It actually told me he was going to pit this time so I unticked it and he finished the race fine with 1L or so left to spare as you can see..


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medal 5000
12 years 11 days ago
Not linked to the same topic but my driver just did a similar thing



Two drivers, both identical push settings (1/5 all race, i was not even online for the race so push levels weren't the problem in this case) and one driver pits on the last lap where as the other didn't, even though they both had the same fuel levels. Besides the point any way as I had enough fuel to finish the race so there is no reason for this pit stop..
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medal 5000
12 years 7 days ago
My driver Ortega just tried to do the same thing. Last lap tried to pit himself. He has "20" decisions before the race so 19 now after atrophy, and he finished the race with more than a litre left. I think 1.2 or 1.3L so there was no reason for him to try and pit. Any ideas yet devs?
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medal 5000
12 years 7 days ago
I should clarify, I mean literally the last lap. Lap 57/57 at Valencia, not 56/57 if that is what you are thinking.

Also, the pit light came on about 5 seconds before the actual entry to the pits, which is completely new to me. Usually it happens in the first sector of any track if it thinks you don't have enough fuel. This happened with about 2 corners to go.
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medal 5000
12 years 7 days ago
Mine have done the same thing twice now. It's a real pain in the ass.
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medal 5000
12 years 7 days ago
i never have this problem, because i always add two litres to every stint, say the prediction has 3.4, i add another .3 all the time so the prediction is accurate, so 3.4 + 0.3 x 10 laps = 37litres +2litres for safe margin. always works for me.
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medal 5000
12 years 7 days ago
"Jason
i never have this problem, because i always add two litres to every stint, say the prediction has 3.4, i add another .3 all the time so the prediction is accurate, so 3.4 + 0.3 x 10 laps = 37litres +2litres for safe margin. always works for me.


Fuel is not the problem Jason.
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medal 5000
12 years 7 days ago
"Jason
My driver Ortega just tried to do the same thing. Last lap tried to pit himself. He has "20" decisions before the race so 19 now after atrophy, and he finished the race with more than a litre left. I think 1.2 or 1.3L so there was no reason for him to try and pit. Any ideas yet devs?



Think i remeber couple months back one of the devs saying there was a safety net for you to finish the race, if the fuel is gonna be running below a certain amount come the end of the race then they would pit....at the time when i asked about this they said mine was running at about 1.5l so it may have something to do with that....


But i dont know, the devs will be able to tell you more info. The pit signal with 2 corners to go on the lap is a new one tho, that shouldnt happen. Like you said it should appear in the first sector.
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medal 5000
12 years 6 days ago
Same here for third placed O'Sullivan again in singapore:
http://igpmanager.com/play/?url=race-result/115047
He was first before the pitstop, overtaking two openents and the going strait into the pits...
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medal 5000
12 years 6 days ago
"Gary
Think i remeber couple months back one of the devs saying there was a safety net for you to finish the race, if the fuel is gonna be running below a certain amount come the end of the race then they would pit....at the time when i asked about this they said mine was running at about 1.5l so it may have something to do with that....

But i dont know, the devs will be able to tell you more info. The pit signal with 2 corners to go on the lap is a new one tho, that shouldnt happen. Like you said it should appear in the first sector.

I don't know about that safety net: in my Belgian race last night, I finished with 0.2 L and the pit light never came on. Driver's Decisions rating is 9.
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medal 5000
12 years 6 days ago
This is nothing to do with the drivers or "short fueling" or push levels..

It is simply a bug, and a bug that the dev's really have to look into because it is costing people races. It has only been happening in the last week or there abouts.

I don't accept having to run 3L safety fuel necessary - There has to be something else causing this. It's also worth noting it only ever happens on the last stint and the last lap of the race by looking through this thread. You can do a 5 stop race, with the last 4 stints being the same length in fuel, yet the problem is only ever on the last stint - Why? If you were short fueled you would pit early every stint. As James said too, plenty of times in the past I have finished races with 0.1 left in the tank or something silly and it has never tried to pit me, yet only in the last week has this happened to me multiple times (on multiple accounts) for no reason at all.  I dare say it is happening a lot more than is being reported too - Remember some people don't take this game seriously and plenty of newer players probably don't even look at the last races results so they don't bother to report it.

My driver is practically level 19, so I would hardly call it a mistake by him considering he still had 1.3 or 1.4L left in the tank.



Picture for proof lol.

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medal 5190
12 years 6 days ago
1.5 litres is alot of excess fuel, cut your fuel by 1 litre and pay attention to your pit window and correct any mistakes.
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medal 5000
12 years 6 days ago
Exactly my point David. 1.5L is a ton of excess fuel, so I have no idea why this is happening. It's obviously a bug the way it's happening to quite a few different people and mainly over the last week.
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medal 5000
12 years 6 days ago
to avoid the bug i put in more fuel to offset any trouble, so i see it as a fuel problem rather then a bug, for now just add a little more fuel until the bug is fixed.
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