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Should refuelling return to F1

Should F1 bring back refuelling?

66.67% (22)
YES! It adds another layer of strategical intrigue and forces teams into more than one pitstop
33.33% (11)
NO! If it didn't work the last time, why would it work now?
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medal 5000
4 years 247 days ago
It's Friday, so you know what that means.... time for another #ForumFriday discussion!

Should F1 bring back refuelling to the series? It has been considered multiple times over the past few years by the FIA, and a statement from the Grand Prix Drivers' Association put the re-introduction of refuelling as one of their four main wishes for the new F1 ruleset in 2021.

It has been a success in other series like IndyCar for example, where often different fuel strategies add another layer of excitement to the drama - but can F1 do the same?

Let me know your thoughts in the replies below!!
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medal 5000
4 years 247 days ago
Yes deffinatley, it adds to the excitement for the fans watching, and as much as i like Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes, it would be nice to see some1 battling him for th WC
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medal 5000
4 years 247 days ago
I would be swinging between yes and no right now, but I'd say no as this new dimension forces pit stops - people want to see the race, and the ultimate goal is to put the race on for as long as possible. Maybe they should also male only one type of tyre for everyone so that managing them is more important rather than the strategy.

Make pit stops repairs only, please.
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medal 5509
4 years 246 days ago
As per fb post, only if they make a mandatory minimum of 2-stops per race and increase the lap count of tracks like Spa and Monza. 
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medal 5000
4 years 246 days ago (Last edited by Neil Kumar 4 years 246 days ago)
I am in a sort of grey area regarding the possible reintroduction of refueling. While refueling may force teams into different, entertaining and innovative strategies, and also provide better action as cars would be running with different fuel levels, there are also drawbacks which hadn't  been convincingly addressed, such as the dangers of fuel spilling over the car , drivers and crew members, and increased costs which could really hurt the finances of poorer teams. But, for safety, I can think of a few technologies out there which F1 could utilize so that the refueling starts only when the hose is firmly connected to the fuel tank, and probably that is why refueling is proposed as a change for 2021 regulations. As for costs, it is necessary to devise a cost efficient and effective way for transporting the fuel around the world, as it could otherwise drain the finances of teams like Williams and Haas
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medal 5000
4 years 246 days ago
I don't have enough info to make a decision, but I think they stopped it for a very good reason so it has to be an even better reason to bring it back. 🤔
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medal 5000
4 years 246 days ago
It sucks without it 
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medal 5000
4 years 240 days ago
 refueling was a pass in pits strategy, plus the safety factor of a car leaving before its unhooked is bad, watch youtube for refuelling accidents,

its not ideal ideal for racing either way, there are many pro's and con's both side of the argument,
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medal 5000
4 years 238 days ago
Nah,
It's unnecessary danger
Overtaking happens on pit rather than on track
May cut short to action due to empty fuel tank
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medal 5000
4 years 237 days ago (Last edited by Pola Pola 4 years 237 days ago)
No and never.

1. Dangerous. Fuel fires in pits were a thing then.
2. During refueling era most overtakes were done in the pits. Some like to look back (I do too) to the few instances where on-track overtaking made for great races but those were far from common. Most races were processions, and though factors like dirty air contributed to that, the nature of refueling strategy meant that drivers then didn't have as much incentive to overtake on-track, and would just wait for the pit stops. 

What the refueling era *coughs* MSC era *coughs* had over the current one was not due to refueling, but due to the fact drivers were able to push as hard as they could, the fastest lap of the race being able to be faster than even the fastest qualifying time *coughs* MSC 77 fastest laps, 2004 France, 1998 Hungary (Hamilton's 2019 Hungary performance can be compared to MSC's 1998 Hungary though) *coughs*. I believe that has more to do with the tyres than the refueling even though the fuel does have some factor. Current tyres are designed for endurance-ish tyre saving as opposed to tyres from then, which is why nowadays the qualifying time is like 7-8 seconds or something a lap faster than the race pace.

Edit: As someone who also watches Indycar, it works there mostly because Indycar races are longer. Strategy is very important in Indycar especially when things such as timing of full course cautions, short/fast oval tracks, and blue flags not necessiciating backmarkers to move over for leaders (Rosenqvist basically got his chances of a first Indycar win curtailed due to this. Saying this as a Dixon fan) come into play. It's also a spec series so most of the field is close too.





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medal 5000
4 years 237 days ago
I rather say no: with refuelling u only go to pits, if fuel is empty. Hence stint length is determined before stint even starts! Without refuelling, u may decide on a lap to lap basis, when to pit. 
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