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medal 5000
11 years 167 days ago
Is designer time used by cloning? I had not noticed until today. But after cloning my design schedule had changed about four weeks later. Or is this a part of this same glitch.
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medal 5000
11 years 167 days ago
"Jack
Could anyone who has had this issue explain the circumstances of the race? The OP says it was at the end of a season, is it the same for others? If it has happened mid-season then it would be a waste of time to trawl through the season reset code, but if it only happens at season end that would make it easier to isolate.



"Leslie
Is designer time used by cloning? I had not noticed until today. But after cloning my design schedule had changed about four weeks later. Or is this a part of this same glitch.


It treats the cloning upgrade as it would any other upgrade, and you can't upgrade again for at least another 48 hours.


In this case my parts deveolopment were scheduled to occur on June 5th and 6th right before the end of my season. I had my design development slider all the way over to "next season" so that the last increase would go entirely to next season. I came to check it this morning and found that the dates for parts improvement were now in July instead of June.

By the way I have never seen the problem listed in the OP myself.
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medal 5011 CEO & CTO
11 years 167 days ago
Moved these in to a seperate thread.

It's behaving as I would expect. Your design upgrades were set to occur in June, as calculated from the date of the last design upgrade. Now that a new design upgrade has been made the calculation will be redone from today, and if you race in a league which races once a week that can result in a difference of weeks between the previous calculation and the new one.
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medal 5000
11 years 167 days ago
Thanks, I used cloning a lot this season and had not associated this with cloning until now. This means that cloning has the negative effect of delaying your conventional development. It might be good to include that information in the guide.
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medal 5000
11 years 167 days ago
I wouldn't say its a negative effect, more of a knock on effect.

If your at 50% and clone and gain say 10%, you are now at 60% so ofcourse it would take longer for the same no. of designers to make an improvement on 50% than an improvement on 60%
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medal 5000
11 years 167 days ago
"Nag
I wouldn't say its a negative effect, more of a knock on effect.

If your at 50% and clone and gain say 10%, you are now at 60% so ofcourse it would take longer for the same no. of designers to make an improvement on 50% than an improvement on 60%

Seems negative to me. Clone one part, say rear wing, and the other parts now take three times as long to complete as they would have otherwise. I'll never use cloning again unless it is near the end of a season and I think I need it to win the last race.
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medal 5000
11 years 167 days ago
"Jay

"Nag
I wouldn't say its a negative effect, more of a knock on effect.

If your at 50% and clone and gain say 10%, you are now at 60% so ofcourse it would take longer for the same no. of designers to make an improvement on 50% than an improvement on 60%

Seems negative to me. Clone one part, say rear wing, and the other parts now take three times as long to complete as they would have otherwise. I'll never use cloning again unless it is near the end of a season and I think I need it to win the last race.

How can you clone a rear wing say and suspension takes more time to complete ? This is the first I've heard or seen of this.
Only the rear wing would take longer to complete
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medal 5000
11 years 167 days ago
The problem is I cloned one part and installed on my car. The next day the dates for development of all my other parts, chassis,rear wing, fromt wing, internals, sidepods, etc were all one month and a few days later than when I had last seen them before the race at which the cloned part was added to the car. Exactly the way Jay described.
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medal 5000
11 years 167 days ago
i see
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medal 5000
11 years 166 days ago
"Leslie
It might be good to include that information in the guide.


I could have sworn that information was in the guides somewhere but I cannot find it, so it seems to have 'disappeared' somehow - maybe I just can't find it.
Yes, the fact that there is a negative impact should be explained somewhere.
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medal 5011 CEO & CTO
11 years 130 days ago
"Leslie
The problem is I cloned one part and installed on my car. The next day the dates for development of all my other parts, chassis,rear wing, fromt wing, internals, sidepods, etc were all one month and a few days later than when I had last seen them before the race at which the cloned part was added to the car. Exactly the way Jay described.

This has been on my list to investigate since it was posted, and today I got a chance to do so.

I can not reproduce the outcome described so far. Are you absolutely certain that you only cloned one component and all of them were delayed? It should only affect the cloned components due date, and that is how it has been behaving when I have used it.
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medal 5000
11 years 129 days ago (edited 11 years 129 days ago)
As I recall, last season I cloned almost every part but did not notice that conventional design was affected by cloning until late in the season. I thought it was a glitch of some kind at first as I had to keep readjusting my conventional design manpower. It was my habit to try to assign manpower so that all my parts advanced on the same day. Thus the due dates kept being pushed back and after 2/3 of the season I had not seen any next season development.

I no longer use cloning at all and my design style is to apply manpower to only a few parts at a time in order to achieve some progress almost every day. Moving sequentially through the parts this way I get every part upgraded in about four to six days.

I searched through the guides at the time I first posted this question and found no mention of this conventional design delay. In this case "find out by yourself" seemed very cruel and I wished that the guides had mentioned this.
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