Weather YET AGAIN !!!!

No matter how much you mess with it.. As it stands the weather system / Qually is beyond a joke now!! It's pathetic.

Locked down and as soon as I join the 2D it swaps to dry and getting the messages that everyone is switching over to the wrong tyres. Hards are going on when it's wet. ohhh joy for some.

I sat waiting and waiting to do my test runs and waiting for the last min.. just incase and it's drying up and it's gone from fully wet to half dry before the race has even started...

TBH. I would rather the whole race was postponed instead of having drivers 15 laps down by the half way point...

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I am sorry but I am paying £65.88 per year for this game to HELP it to be developed.. and I am not seeing my monies worth.. I feel very much like Ethan.. Our race has been ruined by this issue and I don't see a light tbh...

I assume you are annoyed with the vagaries of the weather and not with a fault in the system?
It does rain heavily then dry up quickly in Australia.

I assume also you want to have a fixed weather system that is not tied into reality.  This has been discussed before and the majority opinion was to have it as realistic as possible.  The rain affects everyone equally.

You have every option on how to set up your tyres depending on the weather - from doing nothing, to switching every lap.

There are faults within the setup of the system.
1. The only time you get any sort of notice of a change is in the 2D. Until then, it's re-freshing the page find out if it has changed or not.

2. Something isn't right when lockdown triggers the weather to change.. or do you think that it was legit that exactly 9.20pm bst. (Lockdown.) It stopped raining in Auz ?
Something is at fault there.. The weather system from the ones iGP pay or iGP's way of how they impliment it into the game.

3. The new inters have been a blessing. They work fantastic now and it's great to see that a new strategy has been introduced... the main downside is if you miss the race. You have no choicebut to go softs or hards then straight to full wets...

4. The hot / cold issues are still there.. It's summer in main land EU.. but it won't be like that forever and we'll be back to the winter blues around Monaco again. It's better to look into it sooner rather than later.
I made a full post about an "In house" weather system that is fully random with % of varied weather that can be triggered.. So no one will ever know properly if it will change or not.. but you'll be able to get better reports / analysis / effects to the cars and millions of other ideas.. and you write it to work with the game and not how it is now and around the weather...


If I understand correctly. iGP pay to have the weather system.. even if it's free. iGP devs can't say.. "Hey guys. This isn't working with our game.. Can you change your scripts around so we can use it in such a way." No.
If they have their own, then they are the ones who implement it to work with all the other parts of the game.


You can put a % of weather in "Old Hat" rFactor 1 and you don't know if and when it will rain during the race... you can add 10% chance if you wish.. it's still up to rFactor if it wants to trigger it or not.

I can relate to the problem he's talking about. We've seen it heaps in the past aswell.

It's almost like the weather updates every 5 minutes, on the minute or something. So when you log in 5 minutes prior to lockout and it's dry, you don't know it's raining until lockout occurs.

Unless it's complete coincidence like he says. But we have had it in the past aswell (the exact second lockout occurs, the weather has changed)

How often does the weather actually update?

I have no idea how quickly it changes.. but I know that it's no where near 100% close to real life. I (and a few others.) have checked the local weather for places we have races and it's showing 2 different things. I once checked Silverstone. As the game said it washeavy rain. I am sat sweating with the fan on.. Ok I'll check BBC weather and they said it was dry as a bone in that whole area. Also the same with UK Met office.

Here is an quick example on how it could work with just your Technical Director.

Your race is set for 9pm.

You log in at 9am to check before work. Your Technical Director tells you that there will be a 10% chance of rain.. 4 mph wind.

You check again at 6pm and it's now showing a 65% chance of rain. 18 mph wind.

8pm. It's cleared and it's down to 6% chance of rain.. 2 mph wind.

(Also the other pre-race info like they do now.)

The higher the level. The better feedback you get and a better % of it being correct.

They can also give you advice of what they may think might happen during the race.. They could be spot on or way off the mark.. even at a high level..


You can't do anything like this when using someone else's system

I don't understand why you think an "In house" weather systerm would be static.. With each track having a set of boundaries that iGP can work with. The whole game can be implemented to use it.. It would still be as random as you want to make it.. but it is within "Realistic" Open wheel parameters..

Silverstone for example would be that the coldest it would ever go is 12 degree C and the highest could be set at 28 degree C.  The chances of rain is set to around 30% Thunderstorms at 5% and any other kind of weather that the UK has to offer when the likes of F1 & GP2 visit.

Many many other things can be implemented with this system.. Do you want to listen to your level 15 Technical Director and take a risk that he think's it might change.. So go for a slightly more wet set up and take the chance.. then again.. He might also tell you that there is a good chance of it drying before the end.. so take another chance and go for a dry setup... Loads more feedback from what is a dead weight atm.. Again. It might change a little more with the new setup... but nothing like that if you use someone else's system.

I completely agree. Yesterday evening we raced at Singapore. Our races start at 21:20 (EST), I did my training at about 19:55. While setting up the car, suddenly the track went from very wet (driver wanted full wings etc) to bone dry. So the previous test runs were useless. At the start of the race the track was very wet again.

Thanks guys - that information and insight is really useful.
I am not speaking for the devs here but please don't be looking for a quick solution.  And they are aware of the issue - how could they not be!

It is affecting everyone equally so nobody has an advantage as would be the case if it were a bug.  I know that is no help to your frustration, just stating that most people either don't care or are willing to wait to see what happens.