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medal 5144
4 years 65 days ago
What did you try to do?
As I was entering the pit lane it said that I had enough fuel to go to the end of the race with so I never changed my fuel load.

What happened instead?
Mid point of my stint i noticed that it changed and that the game said that I don't had enough fuel to go to the end. I had the race lead and had to pit on the last lap and ended up finishing 12th, costing me a chance to go first in the championship.

Did the problem happen while using wi-fi, mobile data, or both?
Wi-fi

Did the bug happen in the app, on PC, or both?
App

What is the model of your device?
Huawei P20 Pro

What is the operating system?
Android

What is the version number of the operating system?
3.15

Can the bug be reproduced?
I don't think so as this is the first time this has happened to me

Additional comments:
Sometimes when I want to change my fuel load during a live race the fuel load glitches and changes
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medal 5000
4 years 60 days ago
I have all the time a problem like that and ruined my races... I enter pit with the car indicating that he will put 15 laps fuel but the moment the car stops he changed it for 18 or something like that... So car is heavyer than it should and slower... Why does it happens? 
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medal 5144
4 years 59 days ago

Antonio
I have all the time a problem like that and ruined my races... I enter pit with the car indicating that he will put 15 laps fuel but the moment the car stops he changed it for 18 or something like that... So car is heavyer than it should and slower... Why does it happens? 



Don't know but it's really annoying and sometimes I can't do last minute changes because of the risk that it will underfuel my car or over fuel it
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medal 5000
4 years 59 days ago
Is it possible you changed Push Level to a higher value in last stint? Maybe due to harder tyres? When pushing, your car consumes more and you may come up a lap short.
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medal 5144
4 years 56 days ago

Cole
Is it possible you changed Push Level to a higher value in last stint? Maybe due to harder tyres? When pushing, your car consumes more and you may come up a lap short.



No I was on SS tyres and the track was warm didn't want to overheat the tyres so I was on the lowest push level
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medal 5000
4 years 55 days ago

Cole
Is it possible you changed Push Level to a higher value in last stint? Maybe due to harder tyres? When pushing, your car consumes more and you may come up a lap short.



I think that even if we change push levels we should be able to do what we want on fuel... It's a choice we make and like that it will be more realistic... It's up to you to decide I guess 

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medal 5000
4 years 55 days ago

How do you arrive at how much fuel to use/stint?  

A) Use igp's default figures by sliding the fuel bar till you reach the desired number of laps.

b) Use practice laps fuel and tire ware data.

I hope you answered "b".  The next question then becomes; when do you set up your stints? 

A) Before practice.

b) After practice.

Again, I hope your answer continues to be "b".  

These #'s will vary among players based on your TE & FE design points. 

Your driving style(PL) plays a determining factor on how far you go on your fuel load. 
If you like riding the tires just below the red line, then the data you get from practice laps will be good.
If you're always pushing to the limit however, then I'd recommend to add an extra litre/stint to minimize the chances of running out of fuel on any of your stints.  

Take notes on each track characteristics. Your strategy should change based on your car's development coupled with the track's demands.  

Cheers.
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medal 5000
4 years 54 days ago

H

How do you arrive at how much fuel to use/stint?  

A) Use igp's default figures by sliding the fuel bar till you reach the desired number of laps.

b) Use practice laps fuel and tire ware data.

I hope you answered "b".  The next question then becomes; when do you set up your stints? 

A) Before practice.

b) After practice.

Again, I hope your answer continues to be "b".  

These #'s will vary among players based on your TE & FE design points. 

Your driving style(PL) plays a determining factor on how far you go on your fuel load. 
If you like riding the tires just below the red line, then the data you get from practice laps will be good.
If you're always pushing to the limit however, then I'd recommend to add an extra litre/stint to minimize the chances of running out of fuel on any of your stints.  

Take notes on each track characteristics. Your strategy should change based on your car's development coupled with the track's demands.  

Cheers.



Thanks for your help and I do all that you said but even though I don't know what the purpose of choosing the laps per stint in practice table if the game change it for you. 

For me is 15 laps fuel and not more or less.... It's your choice to look if you push more or less but it should be all time the fuel you picked for every stint.... Do you get my point of view? 
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medal 5000
4 years 54 days ago

Antonio
For me is 15 laps fuel and not more or less.... It's your choice to look if you push more or less but it should be all time the fuel you picked for every stint.... Do you get my point of view? 

I get your point for the most part.

Let's say your FE is 2.00 to make it easy.  To go 15 laps you'd load 31L of fuel. If you loaded 30 ltrs exact, you're more likely to have fuel issues during the race. 


Let's assume you do this and you still find yourself running out of fuel, then PL are definitely a factor here.  

Have you heard of the "IGP Manager Calculator" found in google play? It makes life simple come setup time and really makes fuel issues a thing of the past. 


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medal 5000
4 years 53 days ago (Last edited by Asmodeus Dreadnauht 4 years 53 days ago)
I've recently have been experiencing low fuel issues. I put in enough fuel for a 53 lap race 14 laps of fuel over 3 pit stops and low push level. I ended up 9 laps short on fuel anyway. This game has screwed me over on fuel before. This is B. S.! I also don't expect this bug to be fixed, ever. iGP is getting very lagging on fixing the problems with this game unfortunately. 
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medal 5000
4 years 22 days ago
This is still happening. I acknowledged H. Rod's comments and they are helpful, but the issue is that the change occurs immediately before the pit stop occurs (1 second or less). It's not enough time for you to react and correct the fuel load manually. Additionally, the push levels should only make a difference if the auto fuel only went down, never up, because even if you are on very low push the whole race it never allows you to do more laps than the amount set initially. As an example, two races ago I set fuel for 16 laps and 1s before my stop the game changed it to 21 laps' worth.

It's driving people crazy in our league (Antonio also races there) because we spend time setting up for races and analysing opponents and strategies, for it to be thrown away by a bug in the game. You can end up massively under/overfueled and without a chance to even get points in Elite tiers, where it's all about fine margins.

Could you look into this guys? Thanks,
Carlos (International Racing League)
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medal 4918 Moderator
4 years 21 days ago
Sorry for the load of questions. Are you a browser or App user? Is it happening if you adjust fuel or tyre during the race, only happening if you don't or both? Also, if you hit + or - on fuel or select a different tyre, is the fuel amount jumping to something completely different instead of doing steps of 1 or just selecting a different tyre the first time you do it during a race stint?
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medal 4995
4 years 21 days ago
Frank
Sorry for the load of questions. Are you a browser or App user? Is it happening if you adjust fuel or tyre during the race, only happening if you don't or both? Also, if you hit + or - on fuel or select a different tyre, is the fuel amount jumping to something completely different instead of doing steps of 1 or just selecting a different tyre the first time you do it during a race stint?



Don't know about them, but I am on app, and whenever my driver pulls out off the pitbox, the fuel estimate reduces by about 0.5-0.8 laps, regardless of what I do. Please do fix this...
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medal 5000
4 years 19 days ago

Frank
Sorry for the load of questions. Are you a browser or App user? Is it happening if you adjust fuel or tyre during the race, only happening if you don't or both? Also, if you hit + or - on fuel or select a different tyre, is the fuel amount jumping to something completely different instead of doing steps of 1 or just selecting a different tyre the first time you do it during a race stint?



I 'm using app for the game and it happens all the time even if I don't do anything unless changing push level. 

The problem is that the game changes it in the moment the car stops so don't give us the time to setup the fuel back to what I want. 
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medal 4918 Moderator
4 years 19 days ago
So far everyone is mentioning the prediction/estimate part of the fuel which is the one without any actual effect except being an aid to players. Is the real fuel amount, displayed or put into the car, changing from the one you set as well?
Rhys
Don't know about them, but I am on app, and whenever my driver pulls out off the pitbox, the fuel estimate reduces by about 0.5-0.8 laps, regardless of what I do. Please do fix this...

Something like this is to be expected as the pit stop with its pit in and out 'corrupts' the consumption data the calculation has to use for its prediction and thus calculates as if the car would go through pits every lap, but corrects itself once the stop leaves the window the game uses to collect fuel history data.
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medal 4995
4 years 19 days ago

Frank
So far everyone is mentioning the prediction/estimate part of the fuel which is the one without any actual effect except being an aid to players. Is the real fuel amount, displayed or put into the car, changing from the one you set as well?
Rhys
Don't know about them, but I am on app, and whenever my driver pulls out off the pitbox, the fuel estimate reduces by about 0.5-0.8 laps, regardless of what I do. Please do fix this...

Something like this is to be expected as the pit stop with its pit in and out 'corrupts' the consumption data the calculation has to use for its prediction and thus calculates as if the car would go through pits every lap, but corrects itself once the stop leaves the window the game uses to collect fuel history data.



Oh...

Thanks
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medal 5000
3 years 365 days ago
I don't know how everyone is coming to the conclusion that this bug occurs in race. My issue is that I pre-load the fuel & tire compounds to be used in the strategy page well in advance of the race, and saved it, confirm it, it still changes it just before the race loads. I've over compensate by wildly over fueling the cell making the car heavier and slower. I can't win this way. Either I set-up to complete lap segments with enough fuel or I have to run an extra segment because the fuel saved runs out because the game changed it. BTW I'm on a mobile app. 
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medal 5000
3 years 362 days ago
Ok. This is silly.... Excuse my "Captain Obvious" if you already know this. 

Otherwise If you're using the lap estimator from the game's dropdown menu(NEXT RACE/STRATEGY), click on the exclamation mark to the left of "Total Laps Estimate". It reads; "Fuel consumption will vary with push levels and track conditions throughout a live race. This estimate is a safe prediction for neutral push levels in dry conditions".  If you're using these estimates for your races, then your fuel loads are gonna be all over the map simply bc they are as it states; estimates.  

The most relevant data is derived from the practise laps designed to setup your driver's favorite car setup. The FE and TE figures will be a more accurate data to use to calculate your fuel loads per stins. 

Again, if you already knew this, my apology. I simply don't understand how this gets to be a "bug".
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medal 5000
3 years 352 days ago

H
Ok. This is silly.... Excuse my "Captain Obvious" if you already know this. 

Otherwise If you're using the lap estimator from the game's dropdown menu(NEXT RACE/STRATEGY), click on the exclamation mark to the left of "Total Laps Estimate". It reads; "Fuel consumption will vary with push levels and track conditions throughout a live race. This estimate is a safe prediction for neutral push levels in dry conditions".  If you're using these estimates for your races, then your fuel loads are gonna be all over the map simply bc they are as it states; estimates.  

The most relevant data is derived from the practise laps designed to setup your driver's favorite car setup. The FE and TE figures will be a more accurate data to use to calculate your fuel loads per stins. 

Again, if you already knew this, my apology. I simply don't understand how this gets to be a "bug".



The "bug" statement is due to the fact that I'll only use the high push for warming up the tires. Then run low push most of the stint after that. (If it gets too hot) I also load enough fuel to allow for that much. 
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medal 6223
3 years 351 days ago

H
Ok. This is silly.... Excuse my "Captain Obvious" if you already know this. 

Otherwise If you're using the lap estimator from the game's dropdown menu(NEXT RACE/STRATEGY), click on the exclamation mark to the left of "Total Laps Estimate". It reads; "Fuel consumption will vary with push levels and track conditions throughout a live race. This estimate is a safe prediction for neutral push levels in dry conditions".  If you're using these estimates for your races, then your fuel loads are gonna be all over the map simply bc they are as it states; estimates.  

The most relevant data is derived from the practise laps designed to setup your driver's favorite car setup. The FE and TE figures will be a more accurate data to use to calculate your fuel loads per stins. 

Again, if you already knew this, my apology. I simply don't understand how this gets to be a "bug".


Looks to me like this is what players aren't recognizing. The predictions shown in the pre-race strategy page are not exact, they are estimates. The only time you can get more precise estimates is when you complete a lap at whatever push level you've finished the lap in (possibly every sector, but I don't think that is the case). 


Are there any objections?
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