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medal 5000
4 years 239 days ago
What did you try to do?
Switch from Intermediate tyre to a Dry compound tyre, after the Qualifying conditions have changed (Wet Qualifying 0.8mm, near dry (0.2mm) race start

What happened instead?
Gave two tyre options only, Intermediate or Full Wet, even though it had stopped raining

Did the problem happen while using wi-fi, mobile data, or both?
Wi-fi

Did the bug happen in the app, on PC, or both?
Both

What is the model of your device?
Moto G5, Lenovo G500 (modified)

What is the operating system?
Android

What is the version number of the operating system?
8.1

What operating system is your PC?
8.1.1

Which browser did you experience the problem in?
Google Chrome

Can the bug be reproduced?
It was possible to change (as I believe the changing conditions tyre ruling to be) as one driver managed to be able to, but everyone else who started on Inter, could not.

Additional comments:
It was not even an option from the App, with the last tab showing only the next stint.
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medal 5000 Super Mod
4 years 239 days ago
What was your tyre selection for stint 1 in the main strategy?

The only "dry" compound that is available on the grid is main strategy, stint 1. If you have selected one of the two wet compounds in the main strategy this is why no dry type tyre is available to you.
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medal 5000
4 years 239 days ago
Kevin
What was your tyre selection for stint 1 in the main strategy?

The only "dry" compound that is available on the grid is main strategy, stint 1. If you have selected one of the two wet compounds in the main strategy this is why no dry type tyre is available to you.


It was set for Inters in the main strategy Kevin, with Advanced Settings at Wet: 3.0mm, Inter: 4 laps

In the past, in near identical circumstances (Wet to Dry), it gave 2 tyre options of a Dry compound (located on the left) and Wet compound on the right, when it had stopped raining between Qualifying and the race start (like today), even if you have selected Intermediate tyres for Stint 1.
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medal 5000 Super Mod
4 years 239 days ago
Peter

I have never experienced having dry compound available on the grid when a wet compound is selected in the main strategy stint 1. If what you are saying is correct, which dry compound is made available to you? It can't be "select any one from all four dry compounds", so how does the programme work out which of the four to offer you?

IMHO this is not a bug but a misunderstanding of how advanced strategy works. If I'm honest I can appreciate why this  misunderstanding occurs because we have never been given an official explanation from the iGP Team as to the logic behind advanced strategy. So any advice I offer here is simply my experience and lessons learnt from mistakes I and other Mods have made (we discuss these issues in Discord).

In a nutshell, I would recommend you always set your main strategy for a dry race and use advanced strat to accommodate a wet race.

Of course the disadvantage to the above is you really have to be on your toes if you attend the race because A.S. is disabled and if you forget the cars pit at the end of the first stint and switch to slicks... Another mistake I have made on more than one occasion LOL.

Apologies for the long winded response, I'm trying to cover all bases for other members of the community who are reading this.
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medal 5000
4 years 239 days ago
Kevin
If what you are saying is correct, which dry compound is made available to you? It can't be "select any one from all four dry compounds", so how does the programme work out which of the four to offer you?


Hi Kevin. The default Dry tyre option, the last time this occurred (around 4 months ago), was a Medium tyre (shown on the left), and Wet tyre (shown on the right), with Inters set up in Stint 1 in the main strategy, and the same track conditions (Wet Qualifying, and stopped raining before the race start)

I have noticed that certain parameters around this area (Wet Qualifying, stopped raining before the race) have changed slightly in that time. ie. the ability to take out fuel from the car, which is no longer possible from 3 months ago.

Just curious, whether this change is another unannounced change in this area.
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medal 5000 Super Mod
4 years 239 days ago
Peter

Just curious, whether this change is another unannounced change in this area.


Quite possibly, because if no announcement is made us Mods won't know either. The advice I gave above is of the "trial and error" variety so if anyone KNOWS it is different please post here.

BTW. I had four teams in a two car "test" league a couple of weeks ago that all qualified and started the race on Inters. I had not set any of them up and the A.S. would have been toggled off. I logged in with another account to watch the race unfold and noticed the track was damp (I think 0.2 mm) but it wasn't raining. All eight cars qualified and started the race on Inters then all eight pitted and fitted Mediums at the end of the first lap.

So even without an A.S. the game still fitted a wet type compound.
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medal 5000
4 years 239 days ago
Few days ago i set up China supersoft, advanced strat on if water +0 mm then inters.

It ran quali on inters as intended, track was drying up. I think it went from 1mm on quali to 0,2mm on start of the race.

But i could not change stint one, i expected i could choose supersofts or inters, i could not. So i was forced to start inters and pit after one lap.

Whats the purpose of advance strat if it punishes the manager in this situation?
What should i have done for this to end better?
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medal 5000 Super Mod
4 years 239 days ago
Hi Slo.

If you set SS in your main strategy this indeed appears to be a bug, if it wasn't raining at the start of the race you should have had the option to switch to SS on the grid.

I recall another manager recently had the same problem and he found that for him closing down the race viewer and opening it again resolved the problem.

I'm not suggesting that this should be a requirement but may be worth a go if you experience this in future. Meanwhile I have flagged this thread to the iGP Team in the hope they can find time in their busy schedule to investigate.
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medal 5000
4 years 239 days ago
Last night i was able to change fuel load but can it be true that this is locked 3 minutes before start of the race? 

I ask because i was able to change fuel load just once, 5 mins prior to start, tried to change it again later on 2 mins prior to start and i could no longer change it
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medal 5000 Super Mod
4 years 239 days ago
Hello again Slo.

There is a point at which you can no longer make changes but I think it's more like about 30 seconds before "lights out".

One thing to be aware of, as far as I know it is possible to add fuel but you can't take it back out. So if your first change was to add more fuel 5 minutes before the start and then you had a change of mind and 2 minutes before the start you tried to remove it again this would account for your experience.
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medal 5000
4 years 238 days ago

Kevin
Hello again Slo.

There is a point at which you can no longer make changes but I think it's more like about 30 seconds before "lights out".

One thing to be aware of, as far as I know it is possible to add fuel but you can't take it back out. So if your first change was to add more fuel 5 minutes before the start and then you had a change of mind and 2 minutes before the start you tried to remove it again this would account for your experience.


Nope, i reduced the amount of fuel i had, succesfully 5 mins before lights out
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medal 5000 Super Mod
4 years 238 days ago

Slo

Kevin
Hello again Slo.

There is a point at which you can no longer make changes but I think it's more like about 30 seconds before "lights out".

One thing to be aware of, as far as I know it is possible to add fuel but you can't take it back out. So if your first change was to add more fuel 5 minutes before the start and then you had a change of mind and 2 minutes before the start you tried to remove it again this would account for your experience.


Nope, i reduced the amount of fuel i had, succesfully 5 mins before lights out



OK, I'm officially confused. AFAIK the ability to reduce fuel load was switched off weeks ago but you have now proved otherwise. I give up and will again flag this entire thread for the attention of the devs. 


Thanks for the useful information you have provided.
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medal 5000
4 years 228 days ago
Peter
What did you try to do?
Switch from Intermediate tyre to a Dry compound tyre, after the Qualifying conditions have changed (Wet Qualifying 0.8mm, near dry (0.2mm) race start

What happened instead?
Gave two tyre options only, Intermediate or Full Wet, even though it had stopped raining

Did the problem happen while using wi-fi, mobile data, or both?
Wi-fi

Did the bug happen in the app, on PC, or both?
Both

What is the model of your device?
Moto G5, Lenovo G500 (modified)

What is the operating system?
Android

What is the version number of the operating system?
8.1

What operating system is your PC?
8.1.1

Which browser did you experience the problem in?
Google Chrome

Can the bug be reproduced?
It was possible to change (as I believe the changing conditions tyre ruling to be) as one driver managed to be able to, but everyone else who started on Inter, could not.

Additional comments:
It was not even an option from the App, with the last tab showing only the next stint.

Hello 
it's necessary you have to set a dry tyre for the first stint in your main strategy. If you do it, your dry tyre is available before the starting of the race and in the advanced Intermediate if it rains at least 0.0mm, in this way if it will rain you can change tyre in the main strategy setting because you see Inters and Wet tyre. Liters can be added but not removed.

Regards
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