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Flags and VSC ruin races!!!

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medal 5000
4 years 24 days ago
There was already too much random in these game, e.g. with qualifying and pit stops. You are solving the qualifying problem, but flags are maybe even worst! I think you should take a step back because it's impossible to play like this!!! Every lap is a mystery!
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medal 5841
4 years 24 days ago (Last edited by Wholly Crap 4 years 23 days ago)
Can I suggest you just move to a more active league, or remove the non active players from your league. We run 100% distance and in the last 10 races we have had 2 yellow flag laps and 2 vsc laps. So that's 4 laps out of a possible 600+ laps.

I find it funny why people down vote, if you followed advice and removed all non active players the flags would disappear, you would have nothing to complain about then as you wouldn't see any.
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medal 5000
4 years 23 days ago

Wholly
Can I suggest you just move to a more active league, or remove the non active players from your league. We run 100% distance and in the last 10 races we have had 2 yellow flag laps and 2 vsc laps. So that's 4 laps out of a possible 600+ laps.


I think also about rookie and pro who will never have every player active.
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medal 5841
4 years 23 days ago (Last edited by Wholly Crap 4 years 23 days ago)
Well if players aren't active remove them, that's what causes the flags in the first place when they break down. 
You mentioned rookies and pro so I looked at my league, again in 10 races in rookie there wasn't any flags or VSC and in pro 10 yellow flag laps and 4 VSC all out of 621 laps total.
Your host can automatically kick players who haven't been active say in the last few races, this will reduce the flag issue. 

When it was first introduced it was a pain, it would happen every time someone run out of fuel before they pitted, but now I can't see any problem.
They will never please everyone, they are trying to add some randomness that will effect races just like the real thing. I've yet to see a full SC which I guess will be annoying if your leading but a bonus if your seconds behind.
I guess they could add a switch to turn it off if people aren't happy.
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medal 5000
4 years 23 days ago
It is pretty good, just have to adapt tactics to take it into account. Those who do adapt will be rewarded. Has anyone seen an actual SC? Seem to be quite rare
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medal 5217
4 years 21 days ago
In our league we race weekly, and since the update we had some Yellow flags (which did not affect the race) and 1 VSC for 3 laps yesterday; and It did not change anything.
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medal 5000
4 years 19 days ago
The new VSC is rubbish, please get rid of it. It ruins the end of races as it comes in every time a player retires with suspension failure so if a player doesn't do setup or can't attend the race it turns the drs off and can really ruin the enjoyment of the end of the race. PLEASE GET RID!!!
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medal 5000
4 years 19 days ago
non set up cars should not be in the race, that would stop this problem
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medal 5000
4 years 18 days ago
Although I agree, I disagree when it is the case an active player may be away on holiday or have to miss just a few races. It ruins it for everyone else. Nothing realistic about it at all!!
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medal 5000
4 years 18 days ago
but if he doesnt manage to set the car up he wont score any points and could ruin everyones race.

The fairest way and yes that include ppl who forget or who get stuck somewhere they shouldnt be in the race
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medal 5000
4 years 18 days ago
We race every day and I haven't seen that many flags, I think I've the 2 VSC twice and I've yet to see the SC. Personally, I'd rather see more yellows, not a rediculous amount but more than there are.
Then again, maybe I miss them, for some reason, I don't seem to notice the notifications, when they appear, whether it's because I'm colourblind, I'm not sure but I'd prefer something more noticeable like a flash around the edge of the screen maybe
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medal 5000
4 years 17 days ago
But you can't kick people for missing the odd race, and then you get different players missing different races and then you have the vsc problem across most races.  I stand by what I say, ITS RUBBISH AND NOT REALISTIC..
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medal 5000
4 years 17 days ago
VSC isn't a problem, but an inactive players who doesn't even repair a car.

James
It ruins the end of races as it comes in every time a player retires with suspension failure so if a player doesn't do setup or can't attend the race it turns the drs off and can really ruin the enjoyment of the end of the race.


This line doesn't even make sense. 



  1. If player doesn't do setup or can't attend the race, he will not be competitive anyway. 

  2. VSC should be activated when somebody have suspension failure for safety reasons. 

  3. A few seconds of VSC, no overtaking, no DRS, no boost, keeping the same distance between drivers, but immediately after VCS, DRS and boost are enabled and you can race. If you ask me, that is realistic.

  4. Players who have suspension failure are, as I said, inactive players who doesn't even repair a car



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medal 5000
4 years 16 days ago
Another one who misses the point! My league is very active and what I am saying is that it sometimes could be down to drs whether you win or not in the final laps. 

With this stupid VSC coming in on the final laps it is messing up the enjoyment for others!! 

You cannot kick players from the league if they end up working late or have another unforseen event come up so they don't do setup, yet you have to put up with the stupid VSC.

Plus if it comes in during the race that is one thing and almost realistic, however it always comes in on the final laps which ruins the end of the race for the others!!
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medal 5000
4 years 16 days ago
I get that some players can't always attend races,  but I'm talking about players who are so inactive that they doesn't repair a car. You don't want a VSC in last laps of race, just kick players who often or always have suspension failure in race 
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medal 5000
4 years 16 days ago
We have very little inactivity, we get the odd few but not always the same races. I can't kick someone for missing one or 2 races a season but when you get 10 players that can't make every race it ends up more than 10 races that get messed up by the VSC at the end. It was much better before!!
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medal 5000
4 years 16 days ago
i never said kick them from the league, i said the game shouldnt include them in the race if they do not set up the car for that race.

they just miss the race, chances are in an active league they wouldnt have scored any points anyway, this way they do not ruin other ppls races.
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medal 5000
4 years 16 days ago

Dan
i never said kick them from the league, i said the game shouldnt include them in the race if they do not set up the car for that race.

they just miss the race, chances are in an active league they wouldnt have scored any points anyway, this way they do not ruin other ppls races.


That is a good point too, I know a game where you do practice (8 laps) and qualifications laps (2 laps, first for tyre compand that will be used for race, second for amount of fuel at start of race) manually and you will not start a race if you don't do at least first qualification lap. So here is how I imagined it: if you don't set a strategy, you can't attend races, if car condition is 15% or lower, driver of that car can't attend a race becase his car is potentially dangerous for him and other drivers. But eventually, inactive players will have to leave league to make room for active players 
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medal 5000
4 years 14 days ago

James
Another one who misses the point! My league is very active and what I am saying is that it sometimes could be down to drs whether you win or not in the final laps. 

With this stupid VSC coming in on the final laps it is messing up the enjoyment for others!! 

You cannot kick players from the league if they end up working late or have another unforseen event come up so they don't do setup, yet you have to put up with the stupid VSC.

Plus if it comes in during the race that is one thing and almost realistic, however it always comes in on the final laps which ruins the end of the race for the others!!


A player missing 1 or 2 races is not going to suffer suspension failure. If you have a very active league, as you say, you shouldn't be seeing the VSC because there should be no car failures if someone has only missed a couple of races

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medal 5000
4 years 13 days ago

Paul

James
Another one who misses the point! My league is very active and what I am saying is that it sometimes could be down to drs whether you win or not in the final laps. 

With this stupid VSC coming in on the final laps it is messing up the enjoyment for others!! 

You cannot kick players from the league if they end up working late or have another unforseen event come up so they don't do setup, yet you have to put up with the stupid VSC.

Plus if it comes in during the race that is one thing and almost realistic, however it always comes in on the final laps which ruins the end of the race for the others!!


A player missing 1 or 2 races is not going to suffer suspension failure. If you have a very active league, as you say, you shouldn't be seeing the VSC because there should be no car failures if someone has only missed a couple of races




Paul

James
Another one who misses the point! My league is very active and what I am saying is that it sometimes could be down to drs whether you win or not in the final laps. 

With this stupid VSC coming in on the final laps it is messing up the enjoyment for others!! 

You cannot kick players from the league if they end up working late or have another unforseen event come up so they don't do setup, yet you have to put up with the stupid VSC.

Plus if it comes in during the race that is one thing and almost realistic, however it always comes in on the final laps which ruins the end of the race for the others!!


A player missing 1 or 2 races is not going to suffer suspension failure. If you have a very active league, as you say, you shouldn't be seeing the VSC because there should be no car failures if someone has only missed a couple of races




You do get suspension failure if they don't do setup and it is a track that requires firm suspension so yes we are seeing it even with an active league..
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