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medal 5000
3 years 357 days ago
Is it possible to check if a Manager is Cheating? Two Elites emailed me suggesting another Manager is cheating. How can I check? Can the Developer of the game check?  Thanks 
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medal 4855 Moderator
3 years 357 days ago
First, the traditional methods of cheating like trainers and the like are not working in iGP Manager. The servers, like any other, could be hacked and the database accessed and changed directly, but while not impossible the endevour in doing so, and risk of persecution, would need something quite wrong with priorities in the one attempting.
So it's most likely a matter of game knowledge or a bug. In case of the latter a bit more information (no names needed) about the nature of the 'cheat' would be useful.
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medal 5000
3 years 357 days ago
Thank you, I will pass along to the Managers asking.
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medal 4855 Moderator
3 years 356 days ago
Thanks, also if they wish to provide further information to have this matter investigated please contact support@igpgames.com.
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medal 5000
3 years 348 days ago
Frank, The two managers had posted on the league's page a list of issues, bringing their concerns into the league. They are leaving the league over the other manager's actions. The manager in question is Legenda, a Level 17 who is consistently beating championship winning Level 20 teams all season. The Level 20's should be out developing a Level 17 during the season. Could you read the posting and check into the issue since these two Level 20 managers are accusing the Level 17 manager of cheating. This problem has been going on all season with the two Level 20 managers. You answered the last forum posting and I shared with the two Level 20 managers. It helped for a little while, but today's race was all they could take. Plus now all the Elites are seeing the posting which will not be helpful for the league.

I need help to solve the problem so the league does not loose two good managers and possible more. 
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medal 5002
3 years 347 days ago
Imo the guy’s not cheating. His driver has 20 talent and 20 experience, which the other drivers don’t have. He has an edge that way.

That, combined with the fact his CD has acceleration as strenght and i think 5 star  CD & TD... He also has an advantage in spying, beeing lvl 17

If you add all that up, a good manager who knows how to be quick in live races can compete with lvl20 managers.

By the way: not only your elite managers see the message, it’s up there for everyone to see.
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medal 5000
3 years 347 days ago
Imo the guy’s not cheating. His driver has 20 talent and 20 experience, which the other drivers don’t have. He has an edge that way.
   Answer:  Yes his driver is 20 for experience. Note the other two managers' drivers are Level 20 but lower experience level.


That, combined with the fact his CD has acceleration as strenght and i think 5 star  CD & TD... He also has an advantage in spying, beeing lvl 17
   Answer:  The other managers CD and TD have six stars and one of the CD's strength is also Acceleration. I would think that over a long season Level 20 teams would out develop and spy on a Level 17, therefore preventing the Level 17 to be that strong at the end of the season. Also the two Level 20 managers have one year and two years of playing the game.


By the way: not only your elite managers see the message, it’s up there for everyone to see.
   Answer: Yep and that is a problem, this was internal before.

Thanks for looking.
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medal 5002
3 years 347 days ago (Last edited by Antonio Ascari 3 years 347 days ago)
They seem 6 star to you because you yourself are lvl 15, they exceed your current level. Those actually are 5 and 4,5 star.

Years of playing experience doesn’t mean one’s faster by default.

I hope you can solve this within your league. About the post itself: you as league host have the option to remove league messages. I wouldn’t do that without alerting the author of that message in a private message. Just know that this option exists
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medal 5000
3 years 347 days ago
Thanks for the information on the stars. I have never seen 6 stars so that now makes sense.

Question, how would you solve this issue. I hate to kick a manager over something I cannot prove and I hate to loose two good managers who are social with the others which helps the league. I have provided all the feedback from the forum over the last two weeks and these two managers still feel there is an issue.

Thanks
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medal 4789 Community Manager
3 years 347 days ago
Hello Joe,

There isn’t any issue of cheating, a kick of this manager could cause a host ban due to an unfair kick without reason.
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medal 5000
3 years 347 days ago
I want to be fair to all managers and need proof a manager is cheating to remove. This is why I have gone to the forum for help with this issue. So far no one has demonstrated that there is cheating. Thanks for the feedback.
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medal 5000
3 years 347 days ago
Joe
I want to be fair to all managers and need proof a manager is cheating to remove. This is why I have gone to the forum for help with this issue. So far no one has demonstrated that there is cheating. Thanks for the feedback.



Joe, I went through your league and in my opinion nothing is wrong. I also saw @Frank messages and i totally agree with him. Besides that I do not understand how can someone be cheating, I only think that the amount of resources on the forum can give advantages to someone who is studying. Some tenths gained here and there due to totally different reasons can make the difference. Moreover, regarding the last race in your league, I find that the winner just had a better managment in pitstops bringing to more evenly distributed weight (fuel) in car. But I do understand your concern, maybe you can invite your opponents to discuss here?
I do not see any other solution.
PS: your league name is awful :P
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medal 5000
3 years 347 days ago
Slo
Imo the guy’s not cheating. His driver has 20 talent and 20 experience, which the other drivers don’t have. He has an edge that way.

That, combined with the fact his CD has acceleration as strenght and i think 5 star  CD & TD... He also has an advantage in spying, beeing lvl 17

If you add all that up, a good manager who knows how to be quick in live races can compete with lvl20 managers.

By the way: not only your elite managers see the message, it’s up there for everyone to see.




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medal 5002 Super Mod
3 years 347 days ago (Last edited by Kevin Bissell 3 years 347 days ago)
@Joe.

I think you've probably just got a very strong manager in your league. There are a few managers around who have multiple accounts, do a lot of testing and make copious circuit and race notes. IMHO they're strong because they put the effort in, not because they're cheating.

I see that there are a couple of managers in your league moaning about the dominance of this one manager. Out of interest I had a look at their stats and TBH they are impressive, one of them has a 1 in 4 win ratio. When they were beating other managers and winning championships were they accused of cheating?

Sounds to me like they're sore losers. If they choose to leave your league rather than accept the challenge and up their game I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. One thing is for certain, you have no justification for kicking the strong manager.

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medal 5002
3 years 347 days ago
Ultimately it seems to me you have to choose between two unsportsmanslike level 20 managers and a strong lvl 17 manager.
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medal 5000
3 years 347 days ago (Last edited by Lai Yong Liang 3 years 347 days ago)
Joe
I want to be fair to all managers and need proof a manager is cheating to remove. This is why I have gone to the forum for help with this issue. So far no one has demonstrated that there is cheating. Thanks for the feedback.



I don't think that someone is cheating. The recent update is very hilarious actually & also unexplainable. The championship leader in my league, Syafiq Azman is a Lv.19 manager, he has just hired a Lv.16 CD (a 3 stars CD in his level), but his pace is quite better than anyone else in the league especially my league is very competitive [everyone understand how to activate DRS in every laps and my league always has some very close battles except Murugan (top 10 within 10 secs, top 6 within 3 secs, and more...)] Besides, another Canadian manager in my league called Jordan Clement, he is a very skillful manager & also he was the former first runner-up in International F1 League but he has poor pace in my league this season. I was trying to help him to figure out that why his pace is so weak but I saw that Jordan's driver is max talented, Design & Technology HQs are maxed, and his CD is great (Strength: Acceleration/ Weakness: Tyre Economy) and also 5 stars in his level. In conclusion, the game has full of bugs which are unexplainable.
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medal 5000
3 years 347 days ago
Thank everyone for their help, information and suggestions. It has been helpful with addressing the issue. Take care all.
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