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Kristof Nonjabisnis medal 5000
3 years 121 days ago
Hi all, 

Is there a way to make an estimated guess on how powerful your car will be in the beginning in next season? 
What aspects have an impact? 
And how can you calculate the CD's impact? 
What if you change your CD in the mid of the season, with other strengths and other weaknesses? 
Does it make sense to have 2 or more CD in your team, all with another set of strengths and weaknesses? 

Curious to hear your thoughts. 
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Kevin Bissell medal 5002 Super Mod
3 years 121 days ago (Last edited by Kevin Bissell 3 years 121 days ago)
Hi Kristof.

It looks like you'll be in Elite next season so... 

A CD the same level as the team (or for L20 teams a 5 star L19 CD) after every race will generate 3dp in strength, 1dp in weakness and 2dp in the remaining 6 attributes. These design points are banked and each race another 16 points are added to the bank.

So if you have one CD all season with (for example) Handling strength and Braking weakness, and you compete in a 20 race season, your cars will begin the following season with 60dp in Handling, 20dp in Braking and 40dp in the other 6 attributes. This is your "core" design before any of the supplier modifiers are applied.

If you have a second CD with (again for example) Acceleration strength and Handling weakness and have each of these CDs active for 10 races each in a 20 race season.

For the first ten races you will bank 30dp Handling, 10dp Braking and 20dp in the other 6
For the second ten races you will bank 30dp Acceleration, 10dp Handling and 20 dp in the other 6

So your next season start design would be
Accel - 50
Brake - 30
Cool - 40
Downforce - 40
Fuel - 40
Handling - 40
Reliability - 40
Tyres -40

Exactly the same total design points (320) just distributed differently.

To make things a little more complicated, during the current season if you research your CD strength you will receive about 10% extra research points, whereas if you research CD weakness you only receive about 50% of the points you would normally get.

So it's up to you to manage your team and decide what you think gives you the best development path.


  • Do you want a single strong design attribute next season? If so only use one CD.

  • Do you want to maximise research? If so you may need to use multiple CDs and potentially risk a compromised start of season design the following season (or leave / re-join).

  • Do you want a balanced design? If so use multiple CDs but don't let research drive which of your CDs is active at any one time.



Some people think this game is very simple but as you can see there are a complex set of variables to manage both in preparing the cars for the race and managing them during the race.

I hope this goes some way to answering  your question.
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Kevin Bissell medal 5002 Super Mod
3 years 121 days ago (Last edited by Kevin Bissell 3 years 121 days ago)
Hi Kristof.

It looks like you'll be in Elite next season so... 

A CD the same level as the team (or for L20 teams a 5 star L19 CD) after every race will generate 3dp in strength, 1dp in weakness and 2dp in the remaining 6 attributes. These design points are banked and each race another 16 points are added to the bank.

So if you have one CD all season with (for example) Handling strength and Braking weakness, and you compete in a 20 race season, your cars will begin the following season with 60dp in Handling, 20dp in Braking and 40dp in the other 6 attributes. This is your "core" design before any of the supplier modifiers are applied.

If you have a second CD with (again for example) Acceleration strength and Handling weakness and have each of these CDs active for 10 races each in a 20 race season.

For the first ten races you will bank 30dp Handling, 10dp Braking and 20dp in the other 6
For the second ten races you will bank 30dp Acceleration, 10dp Handling and 20 dp in the other 6

So your next season start design would be
Accel - 50
Brake - 30
Cool - 40
Downforce - 40
Fuel - 40
Handling - 40
Reliability - 40
Tyres -40

Exactly the same total design points (320) just distributed differently.

To make things a little more complicated, during the current season if you research your CD strength you will receive about 10% extra research points, whereas if you research CD weakness you only receive about 50% of the points you would normally get.

So it's up to you to manage your team and decide what you think gives you the best development path.


  • Do you want a single strong design attribute next season? If so only use one CD.

  • Do you want to maximise research? If so you may need to use multiple CDs and potentially risk a compromised start of season design the following season (or leave / re-join).

  • Do you want a balanced design? If so use multiple CDs but don't let research drive which of your CDs is active at any one time.



Some people think this game is very simple but as you can see there are a complex set of variables to manage both in preparing the cars for the race and managing them during the race.

I hope this goes some way to answering  your question.
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Kristof Nonjabisnis medal 5000
3 years 121 days ago
@Kevin Bissell, thank you for your very interesting reaction and feedback. I will think about my strategy for the next seasons and decide whether to have a second CD or maybe even a third one. On the other hand, it will without a doubt put pressure on my finances, so not sure yet. :-)
Anyway you have given me some things to consider. :-) 

What happens if you have level 20 and hire a 4 star or 4,5 star CD? How does this impact the rule of 3DP for strength, 1DP for weakness and 2DP for others? 

Merry Christmas to all! 
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Kevin Bissell medal 5002 Super Mod
3 years 121 days ago
This is what happens with different level CDs for a 15 race season with a L20 account:
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Kristof Nonjabisnis medal 5000
3 years 119 days ago
@Kevin Bissell: Interesting overview... But I cannot figure out what calculation is behind it. Can you share that as well? And do you have the research calculation as well? For example for a L19 or a L20, what if you have a CD of 18% how does that impact your overall research in combination with your TR? 
My first impression in terms of next year's design is that there is not a big difference between a L18 CD and a L20 CD. But more than likely it will play a role in the research part... 
Thank you for your help and feedback. Much appreciated. 
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Kevin Bissell medal 5002 Super Mod
3 years 119 days ago
There is no calculation behind the table, these are real values obtained by leaving and re-joining a league a number of times during the season break, each time with a different level CD.

My first impression in terms of next year's design is that there is not a big difference between a L18 CD and a L20 CD. But more than likely it will play a role in the research part... 

If you think the loss of 16 dp at the beginning of a 15 race season is not a big difference (it will be more in a 20 race season) you're unlikely to be competitive against the top Elite managers. It's the "marginal gains" concept, every little thing you do to give you a very small advantage when summed together becomes significant.
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Kristof Nonjabisnis medal 5000
3 years 119 days ago

Kevin
There is no calculation behind the table, these are real values obtained by leaving and re-joining a league a number of times during the season break, each time with a different level CD.

My first impression in terms of next year's design is that there is not a big difference between a L18 CD and a L20 CD. But more than likely it will play a role in the research part... 

If you think the loss of 16 dp at the beginning of a 15 race season is not a big difference (it will be more in a 20 race season) you're unlikely to be competitive against the top Elite managers. It's the "marginal gains" concept, every little thing you do to give you a very small advantage when summed together becomes significant.



I understand that there will be a gap against the elite managers. But I was under the impression that you can close that gap with setting the right priorities on your research. Is that not the case? 

On the other hand, fully agree that if you want to compete for the title, you should invest in the best possible staff. But lets us not run before we can walk. :P 
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