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medal 5000
3 years 95 days ago
In the last period there are a lot of players that accumulate design points in the first races, for having a big advantage in further races.
Some players made this in a hidden way (the do not overcross of a lot of points the previous limit) but some players put all points in one characteristics . 
This ruines development of players that use design points  in normal way.

I think that a way for avoid this is putting a design points cap over the previous limit: i think that 20 points over previous limit is perfect. 

In think that there is also another terrible way of putting design points: put the in the last seconds. 

I think that it could be solved adding a time limit for putting design points over the previous limit.
In this way, after the limit , players can only decide where it is better make research.

Under limit it can always be maden.

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medal 5193
3 years 95 days ago
i agree. it is good idea SimoneπŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»
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medal 5000
3 years 95 days ago
You are absolutely right. There would be some limitation in this. Many see it as a "strategy", even if I personally don't like it.
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medal 5496 Moderator
3 years 95 days ago
I agree with the cap idea.
But sometimes players just can’t access to the game, so to not penalise them, we could have a system where all DP beyond the cap are automatically put into the area you have selected for research.

Regarding the time limit, I am not sure to understand the benefit.
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medal 5120
3 years 95 days ago
I agree with Truche, there should be a limit but there also needs to be a fail safe. Some might not be able to log on for a few days. This could be work, holiday or even illness. If you're going to suggest these limits then automations need to be an easy automated process included. 
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medal 5000
3 years 95 days ago
You could make sure that unused points are automatically positioned by the system. Maybe dividing them among the various sectors, or in order of list, then Acceleration, then braking ...
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medal 5000
3 years 94 days ago
For David and Truche. 
If a player didn't access in time, they can add points in some.other areas that they can. They cannot only overcross the limit.
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medal 5451
3 years 94 days ago
I disagree with this.

What happens if a manager is forced to be afk for more than the cap time.  It would be unfair on managers that are unable to get on for 3 or more races, that would be competitive if they had sll of their design points.

This is meant to be a game for everybody.  And if we put a cap or time limit on for this, it would be an unfair game for those that cannot get online for extended periods of time.

I agree that people hoarding points for specific track gains is naughty, but this should be policed by hosts rather than by the game, at the hosts discression...
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medal 5156
3 years 94 days ago
Forcing people to spend there design points after each race somehow however way its done i would be in favour of, as it completely skews seasons with some being fast first 8 races with a big design point advantage then the "savers" turn up an dominate the rest of season with big advantage so both half's of season are what i call "fake wins" and you spend other half of season cruising round slow or just not turning up as you know there's no point in being there.
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medal 5000
3 years 94 days ago
the problem exists but the solutions you have given would make the game even worse.  have you wondered why a manager should use this strategy?  with the maximum of 200 points having 20/30 points less does not bring any significant disadvantage in terms of performance and you can also win or do good performances especially at the beginning of the season .. when the maximum was 100 this strategy did not exist because few points  they could make a difference on the track.  I think the solution would be to give more importance to each point.  how to do it has been explained in many other discussions but the devs decided this was the best way.
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medal 5088
3 years 93 days ago
I feel this doesn't impact the whole season that much.

The guys that develop the car on a day by day basis and spend the points in important areas (not Reliability and stuff), research the areas with more or less the highest existent gap will still be fairly competitive and fight for points or even wins with good strategy.

The guys that save up a lot in the first races end up "dominating" too late.

And there's also the guys (which in my opinion are doing the smartest job) who spend some and save some.
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Yes, it is frustrating if you don't think of the season as a whole, but at the end of the day, the target is not occasional wins, it is championships.

P.S. The way the league develops is also very often different from season to season. Sometimes it's easier to stay ahead while with proper car research, other seasons everybody ends up having fairly balanced cars.

P.P.S. This are just my observations from my racing experience. Other leagues may be slightly different I guess.
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medal 5000
3 years 93 days ago
I personally don’t mind it, it brings another dimension to your strategy over the season.
I have tried it once, personally I didn’t like it and tend to use most (usually not all) of my points after each race.
As for people using points late, that’s why I sometimes wait until just before setting up for the race before I look at the “review” page and allocate points and research then.
I do understand why people get upset at the points-hoarders, but you just need to try to outwit them... same as you have to negotiate the crazy boosters during a race.
I agree, it would be nice to make it so there wasn’t such a huge difference in performance from one race to the next by hoarding... but as said already, the possible solutions mentioned in this thread will create even bigger problems
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medal 5000
3 years 93 days ago (Last edited by John Doe 3 years 93 days ago)
Timothy
I disagree with this.

What happens if a manager is forced to be afk for more than the cap time.  It would be unfair on managers that are unable to get on for 3 or more races, that would be competitive if they had sll of their design points.

This is meant to be a game for everybody.  And if we put a cap or time limit on for this, it would be an unfair game for those that cannot get online for extended periods of time.

I agree that people hoarding points for specific track gains is naughty, but this should be policed by hosts rather than by the game, at the hosts discression...


No, the cap is for each characteristics, so a player that didn't play for 3 or more races , can add its point in more than one, or under limit. So they can be competitive anyway.

The host cannot check if Someone  save points...can only ask...


X Domenico:

I didn't write that you are obliged to use all points... i write that you cannot overcross too much.... you can save points also with my suggestions...
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