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medal 5000
2 years 354 days ago
Would it be possible to force a parameter change each season and do away with perfect setup buying?
Maybe parameter isn't the right word to use. But this is what I'm thinking:

Season 1, 1-100 car setup
Season 2, 1-50 car setup
Season 3, 1-25 car setup
Season 4, 1-100 car setup
Season 5, 1-50 car setup
so on and so on

I guess people will just write down setups & get perfect setups every time, but I think it would be more fun if it's changing each season. You might even throw a spanner in the works and add 1-75 car setup or even change what the perfect setup is every 3-4 months.
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medal 5000
2 years 352 days ago
I think should be great have more option of setup like, front wing, rear wing, breaks to front or back. 
Because with this kind of setup is really easy have a perfect setup. Therefore, right now, the setup is not a parameter of difference between cars, I think suppliers and drivers is the only difference between each car.

It will be more fun to find that is hard to get a good setup, and to recolect data each season to find a better setup the next time.

During race, maybe changing brakes as necessary when to avoid tyre degradation, or something like that should be another great improvement. Have more to do during race...

This is just some ideas...

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medal 5708
2 years 352 days ago
James
Would it be possible to force a parameter change each season and do away with perfect setup buying?
Maybe parameter isn't the right word to use. But this is what I'm thinking:

Season 1, 1-100 car setup
Season 2, 1-50 car setup
Season 3, 1-25 car setup
Season 4, 1-100 car setup
Season 5, 1-50 car setup
so on and so on

I guess people will just write down setups & get perfect setups every time, but I think it would be more fun if it's changing each season. You might even throw a spanner in the works and add 1-75 car setup or even change what the perfect setup is every 3-4 months.



Call me ignorant, but, what do those ratios actually mean?  Are rhey race length and time, or are they percentage of ideal setups?  Or, even, are they something I am not thinking about?
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medal 5000
2 years 352 days ago
I've already suggested this idea but everyone hated it, no idea why half the managers here are morons
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medal 4770
2 years 352 days ago

Mr
I've already suggested this idea but everyone hated it, no idea why half the managers here are morons


We aren’t morons, we just like it the way it is and there is no need for a change.

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medal 5000
2 years 352 days ago
If you are annoyed by having the same setup every time, suggest something like this:

Make perfect setup depending on
- track temperature (i.e. air temp and overcast)
- car design
- tyre choice

But the problem is this: this game intends to be a casual game. So, those changes go more into the direction of a simulation and that's not the intention of this game.
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medal 5000
2 years 352 days ago (Last edited by James Greer 2 years 352 days ago)
Timothy
James
Would it be possible to force a parameter change each season and do away with perfect setup buying?
Maybe parameter isn't the right word to use. But this is what I'm thinking:

Season 1, 1-100 car setup
Season 2, 1-50 car setup
Season 3, 1-25 car setup
Season 4, 1-100 car setup
Season 5, 1-50 car setup
so on and so on

I guess people will just write down setups & get perfect setups every time, but I think it would be more fun if it's changing each season. You might even throw a spanner in the works and add 1-75 car setup or even change what the perfect setup is every 3-4 months.



Call me ignorant, but, what do those ratios actually mean?  Are rhey race length and time, or are they percentage of ideal setups?  Or, even, are they something I am not thinking about?



The ratios for setting the car up Timothy. I'd like it to be turn about instead of always the same over and over.



Doesn't matter if you are Rookie, Pro or Elite the next seasons setup range will be different from the pervious season. To try and throw you off your game because you can't buy the setup you have to try find it yourself with the drivers info. Or write in what you used 2 or 3 seasons ago. LOL
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medal 5708
2 years 352 days ago
James
Timothy
James
Would it be possible to force a parameter change each season and do away with perfect setup buying?
Maybe parameter isn't the right word to use. But this is what I'm thinking:

Season 1, 1-100 car setup
Season 2, 1-50 car setup
Season 3, 1-25 car setup
Season 4, 1-100 car setup
Season 5, 1-50 car setup
so on and so on

I guess people will just write down setups & get perfect setups every time, but I think it would be more fun if it's changing each season. You might even throw a spanner in the works and add 1-75 car setup or even change what the perfect setup is every 3-4 months.



Call me ignorant, but, what do those ratios actually mean?  Are rhey race length and time, or are they percentage of ideal setups?  Or, even, are they something I am not thinking about?



The ratios for setting the car up Timothy. I'd like it to be turn about instead of always the same over and over.



Doesn't matter if you are Rookie, Pro or Elite the next seasons setup range will be different from the pervious season. To try and throw you off your game because you can't buy the setup you have to try find it yourself with the drivers info. Or write in what you used 2 or 3 seasons ago. LOL



I understand that.  But.  What do your ratios mean?
I ask for those who have not been playing the game for long, whom may not get the idea properly.
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medal 5000
2 years 352 days ago

Cole
If you are annoyed by having the same setup every time, suggest something like this:

Make perfect setup depending on
- track temperature (i.e. air temp and overcast)
- car design
- tyre choice

But the problem is this: this game intends to be a casual game. So, those changes go more into the direction of a simulation and that's not the intention of this game.



Do you know were can I find a game/simulation? I'm looking for something more challenging...


Thanks
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medal 5000
2 years 351 days ago
No one wants to change it because it's very easy to get the perfect setup, that for me is boring and every manager on that race will have perfect setup , the suspension is neutral 95% of the time, we are not setting up our cars it's just a formality before we race and the driver always wants 3 stops ithe whole thing is completely stupid and does need to change
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medal 5000
2 years 351 days ago (Last edited by James Greer 2 years 351 days ago)
Well the number of stops the driver wants and the suspension settings will always be the same even with my suggestion.
 
The only difference would be the perfect setting for Ride-height and Wing Level depending on the setup range 1-25 or 1-50 or 1-100

It's not a life changing suggestion LOL

Mexico 1-100 car setup
 Neutral Suspension, 11 Ride & 15 Wing

Mexico 1-50 Car setup
 Neutral Suspension, 6 Ride & 8 Wing

Mexico 1-25 Car setup
 Neutral Suspension, 2 Ride & 4 Wing
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medal 4770
2 years 351 days ago

James
Well the number of stops the driver wants and the suspension settings will always be the same even with my suggestion.
 
The only difference would be the perfect setting for Ride-height and Wing Level depending on the setup range 1-25 or 1-50 or 1-100

It's not a life changing suggestion LOL

Mexico 1-100 car setup
 Neutral Suspension, 11 Ride & 15 Wing

Mexico 1-50 Car setup
 Neutral Suspension, 6 Ride & 8 Wing

Mexico 1-25 Car setup
 Neutral Suspension, 2 Ride & 4 Wing


I still don’t see the point, it’s fine the way it is 

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medal 5002 Super Mod
2 years 351 days ago
Just changing the range without changing the underlying values would achieve nothing. Providing you recorded the correct settings for the 1-100 range you would only need to divide by two for 1-50 or by 4 for 1-25.

Just a minor irritation really, nothing to make you think too hard.
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medal 5000
2 years 351 days ago
It's a sense of change without there actually being a major change. It's Instead of seeing the same thing over and over
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medal 5000
2 years 351 days ago
Kevin
Just changing the range without changing the underlying values would achieve nothing. Providing you recorded the correct settings for the 1-100 range you would only need to divide by two for 1-50 or by 4 for 1-25.

Just a minor irritation really, nothing to make you think too hard.


It never ever goes past 50 ever, just like everything else that's ever been implemented or added to the game doesn't work lol I have a list of new features added that fail longer than my arm
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medal 5018
2 years 351 days ago
Well, transmission-suspension geometry-suspension-brakes-tyres pressure :)

They will all always make their car setup perfect with tokens. So, I prefer it if the tokens icon is removed
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medal 5000
2 years 351 days ago (Last edited by James Greer 2 years 351 days ago)
Sound a lot like yous want the car setup to work like the way racing careers car setup works.

No two teams are identical.  What works for one driver, the engineer, and the car they use, will not necessarily work for your team.  Drivers have so many variables in skills.  The same is true of the engineers you hire.  It is that combination skills combined with track data that forms what your settings are.  That math is different for each driver style as well.

The only way to achieve that would be to limit driver training similar to the way my driver is.
Car design effects setup and technical directors would have random attributes that can't be changed. 

Can't see too many people buying into that idea lol
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medal 5708
2 years 351 days ago
Do not forget in your discussions, that this is a sports management game and not a racing sim.  This game is also set up for people of all abilities.
Therefore, overcomplicating strategic and tactical choices will no longer make this game either a sports management game or easily understandable to people of all abilities...
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medal 5000
2 years 351 days ago
Why not have a randomness built on so, say Wing Level could be anywhere between 15 and 20. 
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medal 5000
2 years 348 days ago
The game already has different range for different tiers. Why not just un-limit it? Regardless of what tier you're in, new season brings new setup range. It's just an idea to take the boringness out of seeing and using the same thing season after season. 
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