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John Doe
2 years 243 days ago

It's all in thread title. I think that people hiding their real car strength is probably the dirtiest behaviour can be shown after one lap racers in this game. My suggestion is no design points can be allocated 2 hours before the league race. In this way the research game will be clean and fair. Now there are players that can wait the last seconds to allocate design points and prevent opponents research.

Archie Bald
2 years 243 days ago

Giovanni

It's all in thread title. I think that people hiding their real car strength is probably the dirtiest behaviour can be shown after one lap racers in this game. My suggestion is no design points can be allocated 2 hours before the league race. In this way the research game will be clean and fair. Now there are players that can wait the last seconds to allocate design points and prevent opponents research.

I just keep seeing these suggestions and can't help laughing but if I 'LOL' only then my comment gets deleted but I mean COME ON! ?.

John Doe
2 years 243 days ago

Archie

Giovanni

It's all in thread title. I think that people hiding their real car strength is probably the dirtiest behaviour can be shown after one lap racers in this game. My suggestion is no design points can be allocated 2 hours before the league race. In this way the research game will be clean and fair. Now there are players that can wait the last seconds to allocate design points and prevent opponents research.

I just keep seeing these suggestions and can't help laughing but if I 'LOL' only then my comment gets deleted but I mean COME ON! ?.

Why do you think is fair as is?

When you wait the last moment you know you are denying your opponents research. When you choose which development areas you should focus, you know there could be areas that can have more margin.

This is like an F1 driver waving on the straight or a football player diving to get a free kick or a penalty.

Please let me laugh too as I don't understand why should I like this. There are newbies like me that cannot see what a great player like you sees.

Skid Solo
2 years 243 days ago

Giovanni

It's all in thread title. I think that people hiding their real car strength is probably the dirtiest behaviour can be shown after one lap racers in this game. My suggestion is no design points can be allocated 2 hours before the league race. In this way the research game will be clean and fair. Now there are players that can wait the last seconds to allocate design points and prevent opponents research.

I don’t really follow your logic here?

Surely stopping the allocation of DP 2 hours before the current cut-off just means they will deploy seconds before the new cut-off so nothing will change?

Archie Bald
2 years 243 days ago

Giovanni

Archie

Giovanni

It's all in thread title. I think that people hiding their real car strength is probably the dirtiest behaviour can be shown after one lap racers in this game. My suggestion is no design points can be allocated 2 hours before the league race. In this way the research game will be clean and fair. Now there are players that can wait the last seconds to allocate design points and prevent opponents research.

I just keep seeing these suggestions and can't help laughing but if I 'LOL' only then my comment gets deleted but I mean COME ON! ?.

Why do you think is fair as is?

When you wait the last moment you know you are denying your opponents research. When you choose which development areas you should focus, you know there could be areas that can have more margin.

This is like an F1 driver waving on the straight or a football player diving to get a free kick or a penalty.

Please let me laugh too as I don't understand why should I like this. There are newbies like me that cannot see what a great player like you sees.

Okay I'll humor you.

YES I want to deny my opponents research. Why should I give them advance research knowledge and deny myself the edge?

Are you suggesting we should all be singing kumbaya on the track as one big happy family without wanting to win?

We might as well have 16/32 winners per race then.

John Doe
2 years 243 days ago

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Giovanni

It's all in thread title. I think that people hiding their real car strength is probably the dirtiest behaviour can be shown after one lap racers in this game. My suggestion is no design points can be allocated 2 hours before the league race. In this way the research game will be clean and fair. Now there are players that can wait the last seconds to allocate design points and prevent opponents research.

I don’t really follow your logic here?

Surely stopping the allocation of DP 2 hours before the current cut-off just means they will deploy seconds before the new cut-off so nothing will change?

No because during the last two hours you are 100% sure about what you obtain from each research area.

Ok, Archie. That's what I wanted to hear. I have a different vision. I like to fight with equal weapons. Totally different from your wish and this is the reason of my suggestion.

Keith Hughes
2 years 243 days ago

Everyone gets a trophy!

Archie Bald
2 years 243 days ago

Giovanni

M

Giovanni

It's all in thread title. I think that people hiding their real car strength is probably the dirtiest behaviour can be shown after one lap racers in this game. My suggestion is no design points can be allocated 2 hours before the league race. In this way the research game will be clean and fair. Now there are players that can wait the last seconds to allocate design points and prevent opponents research.

I don’t really follow your logic here?

Surely stopping the allocation of DP 2 hours before the current cut-off just means they will deploy seconds before the new cut-off so nothing will change?

No because during the last two hours you are 100% sure about what you obtain from each research area.

Ok, Archie. That's what I wanted to hear. I have a different vision. I like to fight with equal weapons. Totally different from your wish and this is the reason of my suggestion.

Oh don't get me wrong, I totally get your plight.

It's been suggested numerous times that there should some sort of cap for newer players or slow down development so they aren't thrown into the deep end too early.

Maybe create rookie/pro leagues which enables the managers to be adequately developed before moving to elite leagues.

Something like: Rookie - Rookie, Rookie - Pro, Rookie - Elite.

Then move to a pro league and repeat. By Pro - elite, the manager level should be about 17 which is sufficient to move to Elite.

Community Manager
2 years 243 days ago

Let’s stick to the suggestion please. Thank you!

Skid Solo
2 years 243 days ago

Giovanni

M

Giovanni

It's all in thread title. I think that people hiding their real car strength is probably the dirtiest behaviour can be shown after one lap racers in this game. My suggestion is no design points can be allocated 2 hours before the league race. In this way the research game will be clean and fair. Now there are players that can wait the last seconds to allocate design points and prevent opponents research.

I don’t really follow your logic here?

Surely stopping the allocation of DP 2 hours before the current cut-off just means they will deploy seconds before the new cut-off so nothing will change?

No because during the last two hours you are 100% sure about what you obtain from each research area.

Ok, Archie. That's what I wanted to hear. I have a different vision. I like to fight with equal weapons. Totally different from your wish and this is the reason of my suggestion.

Sorry, but that doesn’t make any sense. You are no more certain regardless of when cut off is and changing it makes absolutely no difference to what you are unhappy about.

Kevin Bissell Super Mod
2 years 243 days ago

M

Sorry, but that doesn’t make any sense. You are no more certain regardless of when cut off is and changing it makes absolutely no difference to what you are unhappy about.

I think what he means MB is that he wants the game to force people to assign their design points at least 2 hours before the race but everyone is still permitted to change their research focus right up until qualifying lockdown.

I agree with Archie, it is a bad idea and would remove yet another management tactic with no real benefit. IMO you can already see plenty of what other teams have got and what they are doing. The challenge is to use all of the information that is available to anticipate what development path your rivals will take.

As the famous saying goes... If it ain't broke don't fix it

Herbie Rides Again
2 years 243 days ago

Kevin

M

Sorry, but that doesn’t make any sense. You are no more certain regardless of when cut off is and changing it makes absolutely no difference to what you are unhappy about.

I think what he means MB is that he wants the game to force people to assign their design points at least 2 hours before the race but everyone is still permitted to change their research focus right up until qualifying lockdown.

I agree with Archie, it is a bad idea and would remove yet another management tactic with no real benefit. IMO you can already see plenty of what other teams have got and what they are doing. The challenge is to use all of the information that is available to anticipate what development path your rivals will take.

As the famous saying goes... If it ain't broke don't fix it

If that is the idea, it’s mad, a bit like Red Bull being allowed to inspect all the other teams cars 2 hours before race so that can make adjustments based on what they have learned ?

And going back to iGP if everyone can still change their assigned design points just before cut-off a shrewd manager would assign them to something like cooling and then just change to intended development seconds before start. So whichever way it is it makes no difference at all

RoboTo
2 years 243 days ago

You don't need to worry about people waiting until the last second to use the points. You can still change the research attribute after it gets locked by directly accessing the research link https://igpmanager.com/app/d=research

John Doe
2 years 243 days ago

Robo

You don't need to worry about people waiting until the last second to use the points. You can still change the research attribute after it gets locked by directly accessing the research link https://igpmanager.com/app/d=research

Thank you but my thread is not complain about this or that player as many want to describe me in this thread. I think that this game mechanic should not work as is.

I know this bug (it's explained in many tutorials). There should be a timestamp check on the service exposed by developers and disabling the button is not enough.

Kevin Bissell Super Mod
2 years 243 days ago

Robo

You don't need to worry about people waiting until the last second to use the points. You can still change the research attribute after it gets locked by directly accessing the research link https://igpmanager.com/app/d=research

But it's not possible for App users and for those using a browser you still can't change your CD to maximise research...

Marginal gains is what it's all about when you're up against the best managers.

Tough Nut
2 years 243 days ago

Archie

Giovanni

Archie

Giovanni

It's all in thread title. I think that people hiding their real car strength is probably the dirtiest behaviour can be shown after one lap racers in this game. My suggestion is no design points can be allocated 2 hours before the league race. In this way the research game will be clean and fair. Now there are players that can wait the last seconds to allocate design points and prevent opponents research.

I just keep seeing these suggestions and can't help laughing but if I 'LOL' only then my comment gets deleted but I mean COME ON! ?.

Why do you think is fair as is?

When you wait the last moment you know you are denying your opponents research. When you choose which development areas you should focus, you know there could be areas that can have more margin.

This is like an F1 driver waving on the straight or a football player diving to get a free kick or a penalty.

Please let me laugh too as I don't understand why should I like this. There are newbies like me that cannot see what a great player like you sees.

Okay I'll humor you.

YES I want to deny my opponents research. Why should I give them advance research knowledge and deny myself the edge?

Are you suggesting we should all be singing kumbaya on the track as one big happy family without wanting to win?

We might as well have 16/32 winners per race then.

I’ve never heard such nonsense. Wouldn’t be any point in playing if people just copy your development ?

Matthew Cammish
2 years 243 days ago

Archie

Giovanni

It's all in thread title. I think that people hiding their real car strength is probably the dirtiest behaviour can be shown after one lap racers in this game. My suggestion is no design points can be allocated 2 hours before the league race. In this way the research game will be clean and fair. Now there are players that can wait the last seconds to allocate design points and prevent opponents research.

I just keep seeing these suggestions and can't help laughing but if I 'LOL' only then my comment gets deleted but I mean COME ON! ?.

For sure there have been a lot of let's say "intresting" suggestions lately. This has to be one of the most bizarre rants though.

Jeff Gordon GT
2 years 242 days ago

Some people going only 5 or 10 minutes online before the qualification begins. Because they haven't any time to play before. Sorry, but what will u suggest to this people?
I like your idea, but 2 hours is too much. And IGP have to make a new countdown with messages to all people to remind to do her research. At the moment the reminder time for setup is 30 minutes before, i think.

John Doe
2 years 242 days ago

Hi Ayrton, this is the type of discussion I was looking for.

I said 2 hours but it doesn't matter. It can 20 minutes or 30 minutes. It's the concept that matters.

What many do now is the only tactical part of the game that does not happen on track. I prefer to win on the track without using means by desperate people like this. I repeat that my suggestion is intended to move the 100% of tactics to the live race.

I'm looking for new non-constructive rants against me and my ideas.

Kevin Bissell Super Mod
2 years 242 days ago

At the end of the day the title of the game gives you a clue... IGP Manager. Chassis development is just one of the "back office" aspects of managing your team.

You are wrong when you say assigning dp at the last minute is the only tactical element of the game outside of the actual race. There are so many other areas to consider, such as:

Chassis development path based on current calendar

Management of design point allocation (spend or save)

Research

Practice lap sandbagging

Race strategy

Staff rotation

Driver training

Parts management

Financial management

Facilities management

etc...

So if it is first and foremost a management game, why should all of the action only happen on the track? To be very successful at this game you need a good understanding of both back office and race management. Anyone who suggests taking away one of these elements (back office) is always going to meet resistance from other members of the community.

If you just want to manage races without the stress of trying to outwit your rivals in other elements of the game why don't you focus on Quick Races?

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