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Dario Jp medal 5974
1 year 351 days ago
I say we get rid of DRS completely so we can actually run the strategy we want, rather than using a strategy to stay in that stupid train. I want to win or lose based on strategy. 
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Harry Kanterman medal 4926
1 year 351 days ago
No complaints here.
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Ghost Rider medal 5188
1 year 350 days ago
I'm not sure, we have DRS disabled when it rains and I find that to be a worse experience.

If I had to think of a way to reduce the DRS dependency, I would try to improve others aspects of the game like the overtaking system, too often a faster car cannot overtake in the train without boosting, this is what I think invalidates the different strategies.
Doing more pit stops? too bad you can't overtake 2 sec slower cars. Extending stints to have fresher tyres? too bad you can't overtake. Trying a softer compound to climb the grid? too bad you can't overtake.
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Dario Jp medal 5974
1 year 350 days ago (Last edited by Dario Jp 1 year 350 days ago)
Ghost
I'm not sure, we have DRS disabled when it rains and I find that to be a worse experience.

If I had to think of a way to reduce the DRS dependency, I would try to improve others aspects of the game like the overtaking system, too often a faster car cannot overtake in the train without boosting, this is what I think invalidates the different strategies.
Doing more pit stops? too bad you can't overtake 2 sec slower cars. Extending stints to have fresher tyres? too bad you can't overtake. Trying a softer compound to climb the grid? too bad you can't overtake.



Let's say for example you start on SS get a 15 second lead first stint, boom you're onto a winner right ? Nah 2nd stint they have all caught up with the use of DRS making your strategy useless.

My previous race I went MMMS my competitors went SMMM you would think you would cross the line close as they are practically the same.. but no I ended up being 25 seconds behind the top 5 who went for the SMMM. That time came from DRS. My point is Drs should not dictate how you strategize and play.
I don't really understand why you cannot pass a car using drs?

Rechargeable kers would fix the drs, hear me out, if done correctly you could use it to overtake but not every lap for a full race. You have to judge and plan when you take advantage for the drs which would split the train as you won't be getting drs every single lap, this brings in more strategy making a wider variety available
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Kevin Bissell medal 5000 Super Mod
1 year 350 days ago
People use strategies to take advantage of DRS. 

If you remove DRS the strategies will change but I'd be willing to bet the same managers who win most races now would win most races without DRS because they optimise their strategies to take advantage of whatever the game throws at them.

And I also agree, wet races are boring and removal of DRS would make every race a wet race.
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Dario Jp medal 5974
1 year 350 days ago

Kevin
People use strategies to take advantage of DRS. 

If you remove DRS the strategies will change but I'd be willing to bet the same managers who win most races now would win most races without DRS because they optimise their strategies to take advantage of whatever the game throws at them.

And I also agree, wet races are boring and removal of DRS would make every race a wet race.



You are most probably right, it's not about winning it's about being less reliant on drs. I just wish being the lead car actually benefits you, currently it does not 
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Sergiy Nevidomo medal 5056
1 year 350 days ago

Kevin
People use strategies to take advantage of DRS. 

If you remove DRS the strategies will change but I'd be willing to bet the same managers who win most races now would win most races without DRS because they optimise their strategies to take advantage of whatever the game throws at them.

And I also agree, wet races are boring and removal of DRS would make every race a wet race.



Absolutely agree 
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Nigel Hill medal 5619
1 year 347 days ago

Kevin
People use strategies to take advantage of DRS. 

If you remove DRS the strategies will change but I'd be willing to bet the same managers who win most races now would win most races without DRS because they optimise their strategies to take advantage of whatever the game throws at them.

And I also agree, wet races are boring and removal of DRS would make every race a wet race.


Just make the DRS less effective or shorter distances. It's very unreal to lose 3-4-5 places in a DRS zone. Make it about 3-5 tenths a lap extra if the car have DRS on the lap rather than 1+ second.

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Dario Jp medal 5974
1 year 347 days ago
On what planet do you think this is acceptable, I just ran a perfect race, fastest car by a mile, came out of the last stint 9 seconds clear to only lose the race because the 3 cars behind had a drs train.. I'm literally done with this crap.
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Kevin Bissell medal 5000 Super Mod
1 year 347 days ago
To be fair Dario, DRS isn't the primary reason they caught you, your strategy was different from the majority of others.

It's a "refuelling allowed" league and you were one of only two cars who chose to qualify and run the first stint on Soft tyres, the majority of the league used Mediums and ran a longer first stint.

So it was inevitable that with a light car on Soft tyres you were going to pull a sizeable gap early in the race. The other guy on Softs did you no favours because he was 6 seconds behind you in Stint 1 which suggests you may have become isolated and as a result not benefitting from DRS (like I said earlier in this thread, others will use strategies to avoid them from becoming isolated).

The real killer was your final stint on Mediums which was 14 laps long as a result of your short first stint. The eventual winner ran only 10 laps on Hards so his tyres were much fresher and faster than yours for the final few laps.

BTW when you exited the pits for your final stint you were not 9 seconds in the lead, you were 14 seconds behind the leader. The eventual winner pitted 4 laps later than you and came out 4.8 seconds behind you which he was able to overcome by a mixture of DRS train and much fresher tyres.

I disagree with total removal of DRS but if it could be made a league option it would keep everyone happy.

As for reducing the power of DRS so that multiple cars don't overtake the leader... we already have this at a few circuits (Belgium springs to mind) and I don't think it makes the racing any better.
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Dario Jp medal 5974
1 year 346 days ago
Kevin
To be fair Dario, DRS isn't the primary reason they caught you, your strategy was different from the majority of others.

It's a "refuelling allowed" league and you were one of only two cars who chose to qualify and run the first stint on Soft tyres, the majority of the league used Mediums and ran a longer first stint.

So it was inevitable that with a light car on Soft tyres you were going to pull a sizeable gap early in the race. The other guy on Softs did you no favours because he was 6 seconds behind you in Stint 1 which suggests you may have become isolated and as a result not benefitting from DRS (like I said earlier in this thread, others will use strategies to avoid them from becoming isolated).

The real killer was your final stint on Mediums which was 14 laps long as a result of your short first stint. The eventual winner ran only 10 laps on Hards so his tyres were much fresher and faster than yours for the final few laps.

BTW when you exited the pits for your final stint you were not 9 seconds in the lead, you were 14 seconds behind the leader. The eventual winner pitted 4 laps later than you and came out 4.8 seconds behind you which he was able to overcome by a mixture of DRS train and much fresher tyres.

I disagree with total removal of DRS but if it could be made a league option it would keep everyone happy.

As for reducing the power of DRS so that multiple cars don't overtake the leader... we already have this at a few circuits (Belgium springs to mind) and I don't think it makes the racing any better.



Despite the strategy and tyre difference to my competitors, I was faster every single lap if they did not gain a chunk of time with drs. A straight fight without drs I was miles ahead. It's just so frustrating when I ran a perfect race to lose over a second per lap for not being part of the drs train. It blows my mind how the game punishes you for doing well, it should not be this way.
Maybe removing drs is not the way forward but it most definitely should not define how you race or who wins. Not that it matters anyway as I don't see an update anytime soon.
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José Trujillo medal 5044 Community Manager
1 year 346 days ago
Hello managers,

We are not considering removing DRS, not even as an option like the League Rules.

DRS is one of the elements that makes the difference between experience levels and rewards players with higher experience levels (which is fair).

Also, we will not introduce new League Rules for many updates. League Rules generate audience segmentation, everyone has their favourites and this leads to more leagues and we all know the current league depopulation problem we are suffering from.

Back to the subject of this topic: with the next update 'New Levels' the DRS (as well as all elements with progress) will be scaled. I.e. the current level 20 DRS will be level 30 DRS. This will serve as an experiment to see if a DRS with less power makes more interesting races.

Since the option to remove DRS has been rejected, I mark the topic as such.
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Antonio Ascari medal 5721
1 year 346 days ago
Dario, you could make an own league rule, only accepting max level 20’s in your league. From the moment the new levels are introduced, you’ll have a drs weakened league

Would need some account rotation and administration / checking to always keep everyone at max lvl 20 once the new levels are introduced 
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