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medal 5054
1 year 289 days ago
During a race at the moment without refuelling is tough.
Especially when it comes to knowing what fuel you’ll have at the end.
We could do with something determine whether or not we need to save fuel.
At the moment we have not much.
What a fuel calculator to help know if we need to save fuel to the end.
Let me know your thoughts on this.
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medal 5000
1 year 289 days ago
This is a management game, no? I feel like what you're suggesting is spoon-feeding the game to us, not to mention your exact idea has been suggested and rejected numerous times. You can already see your consumption per lap; just multiply it by the laps left and voilà, there you go. Definitely no from me.
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medal 5000
1 year 289 days ago
I'm using total fuel divided remaining laps.
Compare result with current consumption.
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medal 5054
1 year 288 days ago

Quick
I'm using total fuel divided remaining laps.
Compare result with current consumption.


Okay but what if a player that isn’t as good at maths. Would need that help. I have a GCSE in that subject and I’m still ending the race with too much fuel.

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medal 5000
1 year 288 days ago
 Indeed, you need to make great efforts to calculate the required fuel. 
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medal 5478
1 year 288 days ago

Martin

Quick
I'm using total fuel divided remaining laps.
Compare result with current consumption.


Okay but what if a player that isn’t as good at maths. Would need that help. I have a GCSE in that subject and I’m still ending the race with too much fuel.


Use a calculator lol. Nobody is so stupid as to divide by hand. Every mobile phone these days comes with a calculator.


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medal 5014
1 year 288 days ago
Bruh, just use standart calculator in your phone, or do you not know how to use the calculator? 
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medal 5000
1 year 288 days ago (Last edited by Jeff Gordon GT 1 year 288 days ago)
But you can try to do it in a few steps.
Consumption * 10
The half of that for each 5.
And now you can control each 5 laps without any calculator.
Example.  
2,2 Liter *10 =22
The half =11
45 rounds = 4 * 22 + 11= 99
For 43 rounds, 45 rounds minus 2 rounds.
99 - 4,4 = 94,6
Srry, for me it isn't so difficult.
But you're right. If somebody is very bad in math, he/she needs any help. But is it really necessary that the developer have to build a calculator into the race?

They should care other things for us.

(There are always different ways of calculating something. All that matters is that you find your own way)
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medal 5054
1 year 288 days ago
You can use calculators but that doesn’t really help during a race where everything else is changing.
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medal 5000
1 year 288 days ago
Martin

Quick
I'm using total fuel divided remaining laps.
Compare result with current consumption.


Okay but what if a player that isn’t as good at maths. Would need that help. I have a GCSE in that subject and I’m still ending the race with too much fuel.



So there’s this thing called a calculator. Heard of it?

Also what do you mean everything’s changing? Your consumption per lap stays the same each lap.
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medal 5054
1 year 288 days ago

Harry
Martin

Quick
I'm using total fuel divided remaining laps.
Compare result with current consumption.


Okay but what if a player that isn’t as good at maths. Would need that help. I have a GCSE in that subject and I’m still ending the race with too much fuel.



So there’s this thing called a calculator. Heard of it?

Also what do you mean everything’s changing? Your consumption per lap stays the same each lap.



Well there are other things has a manager that you think about has well as fuel consumption.

Like tyre ware, driver health and boost efficiency.
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medal 5478
1 year 287 days ago (Last edited by Fried Rice 1 year 287 days ago)
Martin

Harry
Martin

Quick
I'm using total fuel divided remaining laps.
Compare result with current consumption.


Okay but what if a player that isn’t as good at maths. Would need that help. I have a GCSE in that subject and I’m still ending the race with too much fuel.



So there’s this thing called a calculator. Heard of it?

Also what do you mean everything’s changing? Your consumption per lap stays the same each lap.



Well there are other things has a manager that you think about has well as fuel consumption.

Like tyre ware, driver health and boost efficiency.

As far as I am aware you cannot do anything about driver health once the race has begun. Health loss during the race is tied to the stamina and now BMI, which are taken care of outside the race setting i.e., during training.

Managing the fuel, tyre temperatures, and boost efficiently is necessarily the objective of every race in the game.

Or else what would you the manager do attending the race, simply spectate?

What I personally do is divide the remaining fuel by the remaining number of laps using a calculator to get the fuel consumption per lap. And then compare the value with utilisation on previous lap.

I preferably tend to do it when I am on straights, so that it does not affect push levels or boosting.

Or if you want to overkill, create an excel sheet where you enter the remaining fuel on each lap and have a formula to tell you if you will make it to the end, in case you don’t want to use a calculator.

So many simpler ways to get around this trivial problem, well it’s not even a problem imo.
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medal 5295
1 year 287 days ago
Martin

Harry
Martin

Quick
I'm using total fuel divided remaining laps.
Compare result with current consumption.


Okay but what if a player that isn’t as good at maths. Would need that help. I have a GCSE in that subject and I’m still ending the race with too much fuel.



So there’s this thing called a calculator. Heard of it?

Also what do you mean everything’s changing? Your consumption per lap stays the same each lap.



Well there are other things has a manager that you think about has well as fuel consumption.

Like tyre ware, driver health and boost efficiency.


Martin, during race you fuel up the amount of liters you need times the numbers of laps you want. It even tells you the estimated amount of laps, so it’s either that plus one liter (when next stint push level will be higher) or minus one (when next level push will be much lower).

That’s all there is to it. This still is a management game, you can’t expect a management game to make this decision for you

That beeing said, you need to know the lap count is only valid for the leader of the race, so you may have to add a lap if you’re well behind the race leader. But once again, this is a management thing, as Harry said, spoon feeding this would destroy the very principle of in race management
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medal 5054
1 year 287 days ago

Antonio
Martin

Harry
Martin

Quick
I'm using total fuel divided remaining laps.
Compare result with current consumption.


Okay but what if a player that isn’t as good at maths. Would need that help. I have a GCSE in that subject and I’m still ending the race with too much fuel.



So there’s this thing called a calculator. Heard of it?

Also what do you mean everything’s changing? Your consumption per lap stays the same each lap.



Well there are other things has a manager that you think about has well as fuel consumption.

Like tyre ware, driver health and boost efficiency.


Martin, during race you fuel up the amount of liters you need times the numbers of laps you want. It even tells you the estimated amount of laps, so it’s either that plus one liter (when next stint push level will be higher) or minus one (when next level push will be much lower).

That’s all there is to it. This still is a management game, you can’t expect a management game to make this decision for you

That beeing said, you need to know the lap count is only valid for the leader of the race, so you may have to add a lap if you’re well behind the race leader. But once again, this is a management thing, as Harry said, spoon feeding this would destroy the very principle of in race management


That’s not the case in a race without refuelling.

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medal 5002
1 year 287 days ago

Martin

Antonio
Martin

Harry
Martin

Quick
I'm using total fuel divided remaining laps.
Compare result with current consumption.


Okay but what if a player that isn’t as good at maths. Would need that help. I have a GCSE in that subject and I’m still ending the race with too much fuel.



So there’s this thing called a calculator. Heard of it?

Also what do you mean everything’s changing? Your consumption per lap stays the same each lap.



Well there are other things has a manager that you think about has well as fuel consumption.

Like tyre ware, driver health and boost efficiency.


Martin, during race you fuel up the amount of liters you need times the numbers of laps you want. It even tells you the estimated amount of laps, so it’s either that plus one liter (when next stint push level will be higher) or minus one (when next level push will be much lower).

That’s all there is to it. This still is a management game, you can’t expect a management game to make this decision for you

That beeing said, you need to know the lap count is only valid for the leader of the race, so you may have to add a lap if you’re well behind the race leader. But once again, this is a management thing, as Harry said, spoon feeding this would destroy the very principle of in race management


That’s not the case in a race without refuelling.



Managing fuel is no refuelling races is not difficult.  Most of the work is done before the race starts.  Once you have calculated the fuel needed based on what you expect your average pl to be for the track just break it down into fuel per stint. If you have this written down you can easily check as you approach a scheduled pit whether you are on schedule/ ahead of schedule and adjust your in-race tactics accordingly.

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medal 5295
1 year 287 days ago

Martin

Antonio
Martin

Harry
Martin

Quick
I'm using total fuel divided remaining laps.
Compare result with current consumption.


Okay but what if a player that isn’t as good at maths. Would need that help. I have a GCSE in that subject and I’m still ending the race with too much fuel.



So there’s this thing called a calculator. Heard of it?

Also what do you mean everything’s changing? Your consumption per lap stays the same each lap.



Well there are other things has a manager that you think about has well as fuel consumption.

Like tyre ware, driver health and boost efficiency.


Martin, during race you fuel up the amount of liters you need times the numbers of laps you want. It even tells you the estimated amount of laps, so it’s either that plus one liter (when next stint push level will be higher) or minus one (when next level push will be much lower).

That’s all there is to it. This still is a management game, you can’t expect a management game to make this decision for you

That beeing said, you need to know the lap count is only valid for the leader of the race, so you may have to add a lap if you’re well behind the race leader. But once again, this is a management thing, as Harry said, spoon feeding this would destroy the very principle of in race management


That’s not the case in a race without refuelling.



Well you were talking about in race decisions about fuel. With no refuelling there’s no decision to be made except for push level.

Again, the spanner and hammer icon gives you how many laps you have left, so no need for any calculator there
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medal 5054
1 year 287 days ago

Dick

Martin

Antonio
Martin

Harry
Martin

Quick
I'm using total fuel divided remaining laps.
Compare result with current consumption.


Okay but what if a player that isn’t as good at maths. Would need that help. I have a GCSE in that subject and I’m still ending the race with too much fuel.



So there’s this thing called a calculator. Heard of it?

Also what do you mean everything’s changing? Your consumption per lap stays the same each lap.



Well there are other things has a manager that you think about has well as fuel consumption.

Like tyre ware, driver health and boost efficiency.


Martin, during race you fuel up the amount of liters you need times the numbers of laps you want. It even tells you the estimated amount of laps, so it’s either that plus one liter (when next stint push level will be higher) or minus one (when next level push will be much lower).

That’s all there is to it. This still is a management game, you can’t expect a management game to make this decision for you

That beeing said, you need to know the lap count is only valid for the leader of the race, so you may have to add a lap if you’re well behind the race leader. But once again, this is a management thing, as Harry said, spoon feeding this would destroy the very principle of in race management


That’s not the case in a race without refuelling.



Managing fuel is no refuelling races is not difficult.  Most of the work is done before the race starts.  Once you have calculated the fuel needed based on what you expect your average pl to be for the track just break it down into fuel per stint. If you have this written down you can easily check as you approach a scheduled pit whether you are on schedule/ ahead of schedule and adjust your in-race tactics accordingly.



Not necessarily. I thought I’d have enough fuel today and I just made it across the line

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medal 5000
1 year 287 days ago
Martin

Dick

Martin

Antonio
Martin

Harry
Martin

Quick
I'm using total fuel divided remaining laps.
Compare result with current consumption.


Okay but what if a player that isn’t as good at maths. Would need that help. I have a GCSE in that subject and I’m still ending the race with too much fuel.



So there’s this thing called a calculator. Heard of it?

Also what do you mean everything’s changing? Your consumption per lap stays the same each lap.



Well there are other things has a manager that you think about has well as fuel consumption.

Like tyre ware, driver health and boost efficiency.


Martin, during race you fuel up the amount of liters you need times the numbers of laps you want. It even tells you the estimated amount of laps, so it’s either that plus one liter (when next stint push level will be higher) or minus one (when next level push will be much lower).

That’s all there is to it. This still is a management game, you can’t expect a management game to make this decision for you

That beeing said, you need to know the lap count is only valid for the leader of the race, so you may have to add a lap if you’re well behind the race leader. But once again, this is a management thing, as Harry said, spoon feeding this would destroy the very principle of in race management


That’s not the case in a race without refuelling.



Managing fuel is no refuelling races is not difficult.  Most of the work is done before the race starts.  Once you have calculated the fuel needed based on what you expect your average pl to be for the track just break it down into fuel per stint. If you have this written down you can easily check as you approach a scheduled pit whether you are on schedule/ ahead of schedule and adjust your in-race tactics accordingly.



Not necessarily. I thought I’d have enough fuel today and I just made it across the line



Sorry Martin it is.  I appreciate you might have not worked it out yet, but if you are trying to win then you want to finish the race as close to 0 as you can, the risk is you run out of fuel. A more conservative approach would be to to aim to finish with a couple of litres at the end but you will be slower.

Most managers will know what their average pl will be for the race based on track and past experience so try keeping records and refer back to them before you set your fuel strategy. (Edit: posted from one of my other accounts).

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