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medal 5016
1 year 214 days ago
we need to have major changes to how the leagues are. not only the leagues are unfair for new players , some league managers do abuse. there are also issues about players levels with some who are maxed out and it kills the fun of play with no chance to win. there should be leagues for each car elevels to make things fair. there should be no league managers and the leagues should be auto managed. those who dont participate in races should not be able to win championships and get points and such.

i been kicked out of a league by matheo lacroze for no reason at all from jobarteam league. i was first place and i think he just want to win the championship without even playing. he been inactive for weeks. this is ridiculous. there should not have any manager with such abuse. also should not be able win championship when inactive.

there are many issues in the leagues and it did not get updated in the last update. adding car levers and pilot levels dont change the fact that the game is unfair for weaker players and leagues are not balanced. there need to be a big change in how it is organized and no player manager should be there.



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medal 5491
1 year 214 days ago
May I ask as to why you were racing in a league with only 2 other managers, both of whom are probably inactive(based on what you are saying and the race results)?
Trying to get a free championship and statpad perhaps?
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medal 5016
1 year 214 days ago (Last edited by Eric Boutin 1 year 214 days ago)
Ross
May I ask as to why you were racing in a league with only 2 other managers, both of whom are probably inactive(based on what you are saying and the race results)?
Trying to get a free championship and statpad perhaps?



actually is the other manager that is trying to get championship without even racing at all. i am an active player. i play the game to have fun racing and yes to improve my car and pilots like everyone in the game. many manager do go in leagues where they can win or at least be able to be in the top. this is not something new. everyone is looking for this to improve and get some results. when i joined this league i could not know if some are active or not. it dont show up when u join a league. when u leave a league u do have to start again and lose stuff. i wanted to finish that season i started on the first race of the season.


i was in another league where i have been a victim of harassment from another player. we cant even block a player from send message and i had to ask support which never told me i could block messages from other who are not on my friend list and such. i had to deal with this for weeks and have messages and friend request one after the other. finally i had a league where i was ok and now the league admin kicked me out.

this game is full of issues. they need to correct those problems. not only the game is unfair with some players who spend money and have everything maxed out , the leagues are not balanced and not good for new players. i reported some problems a few times and nobody answer and the game support seems non existant almost. they dont seem to care about what people think and say. the game will lose players because of all the issues.

btw ross brawn , i see u have a high rep. dont tell me u never tried yourself to be able to be in a league where u will win and u did not try to do things so that you will improve. i bet u spend money in the game (which give advantage over others) and that you are probably one of those who dont care and dont see the issues i mentioned and would not do anything to make this game better and fair for everyone. this is typical to the top players in a game. they dont want things changed because they do actually win. a good sign that u dont care is that all u find to tell me is bs.

finally , i would like to add that some players are using multiple accounts and make dummy accounts in their league. the game support does know this and they do nothing about it. now it they would do things correctly , many things would be changed. this make no sense. many people do cheat and use some methofs to get better rep or better results and to maintain leagues with dummy accounts. this is very well known as u can read it in the leagues since they even tell it to everyone.

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medal 6073
1 year 214 days ago (Last edited by Timothy Barry 1 year 214 days ago)
Sounds to me, as if you have a chip on your shoulder there.  That is something that you should complain about, yes.  But getting rid of the current system...  That is a hard no from me, a league host for at least 3 years now, of a competitive league.  We are needed to ensure fair play and to ensure that there is an initial form of vigilance and action against those whom break the rules of interaction in chats and forums.

Obviously, you do have the problem of having been a third wheel in a league with a host that may not have said that the league may be an offline league, or that he is an egotist whom would rip out 30 players just to win it all of the time.  Yes, I can see your fustration with that one.  But taking the element of choice of league type and initial chat/forum management away, is just a bad move.  

If I were you, I would complain about the host that booted you in the general section of this forum and see what the mods would have to say...

P.s.  It took me so long to tap this out, that I did not see your reply to Mr. Brawn.  So I wrote this, not knowing of your previous trials and tribulations.  
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medal 5016
1 year 214 days ago
Timothy
Sounds to me, as if you have a chip on your shoulder there.  That is something that you should complain about, yes.  But getting rid of the current system...  That is a hard no from me, a league host for at least 3 years now, of a competitive league.  We are needed to ensure fair play and to ensure that there is an initial form of vigilance and action against those whom break the rules of interaction in chats and forums.

Obviously, you do have the problem of having been a third wheel in a league with a host that may not have said that the league may be an offline league, or that he is an egotist whom would rip out 30 players just to win it all of the time.  Yes, I can see your fustration with that one.  But taking the element of choice of league type and initial chat/forum management away, is just a bad move.  

If I were you, I would complain about the host that booted you in the general section of this forum and see what the mods would have to say...



unfortunately the game dev and support dont seem to care. people who own leagues do wahtever. like i said in previous message , some use multiple accounts and dummy accounts. many issues in this game. some league owners are inactive for weeks or leave the league and dont give up the league ownership and many other stuff that make no sense. as long everyone will say nothing and want no change , nothing will change as the game owner seems to care only about the money they make with the game as we could see with the last update since everyone lost what they had and have to get new drivers and train them again and pay credits for stuff in the game. i tried a few times in the forum to post messages about issues and some problems and support is almost non existant and nobody seem to care and what i get for response is mostly bs stuff because they do not care. those who are top player are fine with the current system as they win and manage to get results and do not care about others and dont want any change.
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medal 6073
1 year 214 days ago (Last edited by Timothy Barry 1 year 214 days ago)
Eric

Timothy
Sounds to me, as if you have a chip on your shoulder there.  That is something that you should complain about, yes.  But getting rid of the current system...  That is a hard no from me, a league host for at least 3 years now, of a competitive league.  We are needed to ensure fair play and to ensure that there is an initial form of vigilance and action against those whom break the rules of interaction in chats and forums.

Obviously, you do have the problem of having been a third wheel in a league with a host that may not have said that the league may be an offline league, or that he is an egotist whom would rip out 30 players just to win it all of the time.  Yes, I can see your fustration with that one.  But taking the element of choice of league type and initial chat/forum management away, is just a bad move.  

If I were you, I would complain about the host that booted you in the general section of this forum and see what the mods would have to say...



unfortunately the game dev and support dont seem to care. people who own leagues do wahtever. like i said in previous message , some use multiple accounts and dummy accounts. many issues in this game. some league owners are inactive for weeks or leave the league and dont give up the league ownership and many other stuff that make no sense. as long everyone will say nothing and want no change , nothing will change as the game owner seems to care only about the money they make with the game as we could see with the last update since everyone lost what they had and have to get new drivers and train them again and pay credits for stuff in the game.



Looks like you may have interacted with no mod that I know of.  There are more than a few mods that will listen to your problems and deal with them expediantly.  Even a good host (not manager), of which there are many, should be able to help you with such interactions.  If I were you, I would join one of the truly competitive leagues.  I would advise one of the Formula Zero leagues, or one in the list in the Leagues and Events section of this forum.


Finally, I see where you are coming from with the pay to win thing.  It has been a bit of a full on change since the last update, but, until both more players come in and many people get to level 30, then there will be a need for people and bills to get paid at iGP towers.  All I am saying here is that I see both sides of that argument and I will not state which one I fall on.
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medal 5491
1 year 214 days ago

Eric
Ross
May I ask as to why you were racing in a league with only 2 other managers, both of whom are probably inactive(based on what you are saying and the race results)?
Trying to get a free championship and statpad perhaps?



actually is the other manager that is trying to get championship without even racing at all. i am an active player. i play the game to have fun racing and yes to improve my car and pilots like everyone in the game. many manager do go in leagues where they can win or at least be able to be in the top. this is not something new. everyone is looking for this to improve and get some results. when i joined this league i could not know if some are active or not. it dont show up when u join a league. when u leave a league u do have to start again and lose stuff. i wanted to finish that season i started on the first race of the season.


i was in another league where i have been a victim of harassment from another player. we cant even block a player from send message and i had to ask support which never told me i could block messages from other who are not on my friend list and such. i had to deal with this for weeks and have messages and friend request one after the other. finally i had a league where i was ok and now the league admin kicked me out.

this game is full of issues. they need to correct those problems. not only the game is unfair with some players who spend money and have everything maxed out , the leagues are not balanced and not good for new players. i reported some problems a few times and nobody answer and the game support seems non existant almost. they dont seem to care about what people think and say. the game will lose players because of all the issues.

btw ross brawn , i see u have a high rep. dont tell me u never tried yourself to be able to be in a league where u will win and u did not try to do things so that you will improve. i bet u spend money in the game (which give advantage over others) and that you are probably one of those who dont care and dont see the issues i mentioned and would not do anything to make this game better and fair for everyone. this is typical to the top players in a game. they dont want things changed because they do actually win. a good sign that u dont care is that all u find to tell me is bs.

finally , i would like to add that some players are using multiple accounts and make dummy accounts in their league. the game support does know this and they do nothing about it. now it they would do things correctly , many things would be changed. this make no sense. many people do cheat and use some methofs to get better rep or better results and to maintain leagues with dummy accounts. this is very well known as u can read it in the leagues since they even tell it to everyone.



Although I sympathise with you for the fact that the guy kicked you out for no reason, tbh seeing only three managers in an entire league that too with two almost inactive would pretty much give anyone an inkling that they should get out of there as soon as possible.


Of course there are people who come with join my league messages, but I politely decline them saying something like the timing or the schedule doesn’t suit me.

As for the personal remarks, I never cared of reputation points, and tbh never knew the hall of fame thing existed until someone pointed it out to me like 3 months ago. Both of my promotions to pro and to elite have come in different leagues. I left my first one because the pro league there was barely active, and for someone who cares about competing rather than plain stats, I would be more satisfied with losing a three way battle for a win rather than a win with a lap over P2.

There are plenty of good leagues around, there is an entire thread in the forum dedicated for the purpose. Pick a good active one.

Concerning the paying to win part, yes it has gotten more relevant since the last upgrade, but pretty much everyone understands the management needs cash flow to keep the game up and running. The better the stability of the game, the more the developers can focus towards bringing us more and better content, as that is one less thing for them to worry about. As long as the game doesn’t bring in a Buy Victory button, I am pretty much okay with it, as this model is better than most other games I have seen / played.
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medal 5026
1 year 214 days ago
Eric's words are the truth. Add quick races and useless car attributes like cooling and reliability and you will have a complete picture of this game.

I hope next update addresses some of these problems instead of bringing us new useless features that nobody felt the need.

P.S.
The money should come from special liveries, rims, gloves and helmets not from special abilities.
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medal 5491
1 year 214 days ago
Agree with you that QR, car attributes and the team staff all need a rework(right now all that matters is star rating).

If money comes only from cosmetic items, hardly anyone will be paying for it. For over 5 months I didn’t realise you could edit the driver and staff names or the CD strength / weakness or the avatar with cosmetic.

Only when I went in to check the special abilities did I realise such a thing even existed.
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medal 5735
1 year 213 days ago

Eric
Timothy
Sounds to me, as if you have a chip on your shoulder there.  That is something that you should complain about, yes.  But getting rid of the current system...  That is a hard no from me, a league host for at least 3 years now, of a competitive league.  We are needed to ensure fair play and to ensure that there is an initial form of vigilance and action against those whom break the rules of interaction in chats and forums.

Obviously, you do have the problem of having been a third wheel in a league with a host that may not have said that the league may be an offline league, or that he is an egotist whom would rip out 30 players just to win it all of the time.  Yes, I can see your fustration with that one.  But taking the element of choice of league type and initial chat/forum management away, is just a bad move.  

If I were you, I would complain about the host that booted you in the general section of this forum and see what the mods would have to say...



unfortunately the game dev and support dont seem to care. people who own leagues do wahtever. like i said in previous message , some use multiple accounts and dummy accounts. many issues in this game. some league owners are inactive for weeks or leave the league and dont give up the league ownership and many other stuff that make no sense. as long everyone will say nothing and want no change , nothing will change as the game owner seems to care only about the money they make with the game as we could see with the last update since everyone lost what they had and have to get new drivers and train them again and pay credits for stuff in the game. i tried a few times in the forum to post messages about issues and some problems and support is almost non existant and nobody seem to care and what i get for response is mostly bs stuff because they do not care. those who are top player are fine with the current system as they win and manage to get results and do not care about others and dont want any change.



Eric.   I’ve read most of your posts. There’s problems everywhere and they aren’t all going to get resolved.  


You’ve been in 18 leagues - most I’ve never heard of. Your issue seems to be about the league you were kicked from. 

Like someone says above - get yourself into a good active league.  There’s plenty about.  Most have good communities who chat separately via Discord too.   Have a look around ?
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medal 5000
1 year 213 days ago
Come and join my league Eric…..

When seagulls follow the trawler it’s because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea….

Oh but if you get any good I will boot you out obviously ??
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medal 5016
1 year 209 days ago
thanks everyone for your messages. i do appreciate you take the time to share things with me and to read also my messages. unfortunately thats something the game staff should do also and i think they are not willing to do so or to change things in the game to make it better.

even if i did like to play the game for some time , i had also issues which made me hate the game now. being kicked for no reason after working for over a week on my races in that league. being a victim of unwanted emails and friend requests harassing me with no help from the support on how to stop this. the new update that give advantage to those who spend money and my staff and drivers now not good anymore and would need to change them. the fact that the leagues are unfair most of the times with some people being all star players who keep win and you cant do anything against them. the leagues are unbalanced and would need level minimum and maximum so it is a more interesting competition. some people making dummy accounts or multiple accounts. there are also other issues.

after the things that happened , i decided i will no longer play this game. i did not join another league after i been booted by a manager for no reason and this was what finally killed it for me. i feel that the game owner and staff are not going the good way and are not gonna resolve the issues in this game. i do not like how it is now that i saw those issues and been a victim of the problems in this game. i dont want to spend my time and money for a game that is unfair in many ways and that is not well made and make me feel angry and dissapointed about how it is.

this was my final message and i will no longer come to this forum or in this game at all. there are other games out there that make me have fun and dont make me feel it is not well made and full of issues like here. bye and good luck.



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medal 5000
1 year 209 days ago

Eric
thanks everyone for your messages. i do appreciate you take the time to share things with me and to read also my messages. unfortunately thats something the game staff should do also and i think they are not willing to do so or to change things in the game to make it better.

even if i did like to play the game for some time , i had also issues which made me hate the game now. being kicked for no reason after working for over a week on my races in that league. being a victim of unwanted emails and friend requests harassing me with no help from the support on how to stop this. the new update that give advantage to those who spend money and my staff and drivers now not good anymore and would need to change them. the fact that the leagues are unfair most of the times with some people being all star players who keep win and you cant do anything against them. the leagues are unbalanced and would need level minimum and maximum so it is a more interesting competition. some people making dummy accounts or multiple accounts. there are also other issues.

after the things that happened , i decided i will no longer play this game. i did not join another league after i been booted by a manager for no reason and this was what finally killed it for me. i feel that the game owner and staff are not going the good way and are not gonna resolve the issues in this game. i do not like how it is now that i saw those issues and been a victim of the problems in this game. i dont want to spend my time and money for a game that is unfair in many ways and that is not well made and make me feel angry and dissapointed about how it is.

this was my final message and i will no longer come to this forum or in this game at all. there are other games out there that make me have fun and dont make me feel it is not well made and full of issues like here. bye and good luck.





Laters Bro….. although you won’t be able to read this.




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