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medal 5007
1 year 144 days ago (Last edited by Barna Fodor 1 year 143 days ago)
There is a narural fact that drivers with high talent are faster than drivers with lower talent, but actually it's a very big amount with what they're faster like, I was fighting for points before (T20 drivers), but I got some T30 drivers and now I win races with 10-20 seconds

My suggestion is to make a talent-limit due to the level of the team, this way there will be difference between lvl 23 and lvl 25, but not that big difference (as now) between lvl 20 and lvl 23

I know it'll be a problem as a lot of people has higher talent driver than their level, so it could be solved, like they would get those points in the attributions (spent as there could be e.g. a priority like which field to train first...) and as they reach a level, they would lose 1 point, but get 1 talent...
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medal 5007
1 year 143 days ago
It would be good to at least know why did you reject the seggestion!
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medal 5883 Community Manager
1 year 143 days ago
Hey Barna,

There are multiple reasons, the main two is that you can not take away assets bought by players (sometimes with real cash). Imagine that you invested money into one of the special offers that award a T30. I would perfectly understand the frustration and those players would be eligible to receive a refund.

It would also create a big disadvantage between high level managers and low level managers.

Thank you!
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medal 5000
1 year 143 days ago
José
Hey Barna,

There are multiple reasons, the main two is that you can not take away assets bought by players (sometimes with real cash). Imagine that you invested money into one of the special offers that award a T30. I would perfectly understand the frustration and those players would be eligible to receive a refund.

It would also create a big disadvantage between high level managers and low level managers.

Thank you!



I understand the first reason, but the second one is just non-sense as it's the reason why I suggested this, and the difference could be just more sensible


And neither the first is so real as I said it would still mean T30 as soon as they reach lvl30 and they would get a response, by 'attribute poins' and actually I think the interesting races are still more important than getting what you've paid for, although I didn't pay real money, but I spent tokens for getting T30 drivers and having crazy andvantage against lvl25 teams (with lvl 21)

So actually I would just recommend that if you can solve it technically then at least wait until the community write negative comments, or maybe they would be on my opinion and the races could be more interesting

Thank you 
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medal 5000
1 year 142 days ago
Think for yourself, will it be easier for you to fight against level 25 if he has 25 talent and level 25, and you have 21 talent and level 21, or if you both have 30 talents at the same levels (21 and 25), given that the higher the talent, the faster the driver?
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medal 5002
1 year 142 days ago

Barna
José
Hey Barna,

There are multiple reasons, the main two is that you can not take away assets bought by players (sometimes with real cash). Imagine that you invested money into one of the special offers that award a T30. I would perfectly understand the frustration and those players would be eligible to receive a refund.

It would also create a big disadvantage between high level managers and low level managers.

Thank you!



I understand the first reason, but the second one is just non-sense as it's the reason why I suggested this, and the difference could be just more sensible


And neither the first is so real as I said it would still mean T30 as soon as they reach lvl30 and they would get a response, by 'attribute poins' and actually I think the interesting races are still more important than getting what you've paid for, although I didn't pay real money, but I spent tokens for getting T30 drivers and having crazy andvantage against lvl25 teams (with lvl 21)

So actually I would just recommend that if you can solve it technically then at least wait until the community write negative comments, or maybe they would be on my opinion and the races could be more

How I wish we had the ability to mute some forum posts 
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medal 5007
1 year 141 days ago

Orange
Think for yourself, will it be easier for you to fight against level 25 if he has 25 talent and level 25, and you have 21 talent and level 21, or if you both have 30 talents at the same levels (21 and 25), given that the higher the talent, the faster the driver?



It'd be harder, but now I win easily and that's the problem as it seems the research matters more than the DPs and the driver only itself, without the difference in talent
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medal 4983 Moderator
1 year 140 days ago
But is it really a good idea to change the game in a way increasing and hardening the level gap advantage and greatly increase the costs running the team because it's possible to easily win against managers not doing their homework? I don't think so.
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medal 5007
1 year 140 days ago

Frank
But is it really a good idea to change the game in a way increasing and hardening the level gap advantage and greatly increase the costs running the team because it's possible to easily win against managers not doing their homework? I don't think so.



Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this suggestion doesn't always increase the gap, just make it more real, it's at some level increasing and at some level decreasing


For example you mostly have T30 drivers at lvl18-20, but at lvl21-23 you already have big chances for T30, and this way the zero difference in talent between 23 and 30 could be 7 and the 10 difference in talent between 19 and 22 could be 3..., I think this could be much better

And no, the lvl25 managers I fight (not fight,  because I'm clear faster this way without limiting talents), they aren't doing bad the game, but they can't be as fast as I am
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medal 5000
1 year 140 days ago

Barna

Frank
But is it really a good idea to change the game in a way increasing and hardening the level gap advantage and greatly increase the costs running the team because it's possible to easily win against managers not doing their homework? I don't think so.



Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this suggestion doesn't always increase the gap, just make it more real, it's at some level increasing and at some level decreasing


For example you mostly have T30 drivers at lvl18-20, but at lvl21-23 you already have big chances for T30, and this way the zero difference in talent between 23 and 30 could be 7 and the 10 difference in talent between 19 and 22 could be 3..., I think this could be much better

And no, the lvl25 managers I fight (not fight,  because I'm clear faster this way without limiting talents), they aren't doing bad the game, but they can't be as fast as I am



Went through the thread and from what I could piece together, you want closer racing by limiting talents because you win by a big margin now in your league?


If so, I think an easier solution will be to join a more competitive league. I can assure you that you will definitely ask this post to be deleted.
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medal 5007
1 year 140 days ago
Archie

Barna

Frank
But is it really a good idea to change the game in a way increasing and hardening the level gap advantage and greatly increase the costs running the team because it's possible to easily win against managers not doing their homework? I don't think so.



Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this suggestion doesn't always increase the gap, just make it more real, it's at some level increasing and at some level decreasing


For example you mostly have T30 drivers at lvl18-20, but at lvl21-23 you already have big chances for T30, and this way the zero difference in talent between 23 and 30 could be 7 and the 10 difference in talent between 19 and 22 could be 3..., I think this could be much better

And no, the lvl25 managers I fight (not fight,  because I'm clear faster this way without limiting talents), they aren't doing bad the game, but they can't be as fast as I am



Went through the thread and from what I could piece together, you want closer racing by limiting talents because you win by a big margin now in your league?


If so, I think an easier solution will be to join a more competitive league. I can assure you that you will definitely ask this post to be deleted.



I'm the host of the league..., and I'm competing with other teams in more competitive leagues and no, I don't want this thread to be deleted, I still think this could work
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medal 5002
1 year 140 days ago
Barna
Archie

Barna

Frank
But is it really a good idea to change the game in a way increasing and hardening the level gap advantage and greatly increase the costs running the team because it's possible to easily win against managers not doing their homework? I don't think so.



Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this suggestion doesn't always increase the gap, just make it more real, it's at some level increasing and at some level decreasing


For example you mostly have T30 drivers at lvl18-20, but at lvl21-23 you already have big chances for T30, and this way the zero difference in talent between 23 and 30 could be 7 and the 10 difference in talent between 19 and 22 could be 3..., I think this could be much better

And no, the lvl25 managers I fight (not fight,  because I'm clear faster this way without limiting talents), they aren't doing bad the game, but they can't be as fast as I am



Went through the thread and from what I could piece together, you want closer racing by limiting talents because you win by a big margin now in your league?


If so, I think an easier solution will be to join a more competitive league. I can assure you that you will definitely ask this post to be deleted.



I'm the host of the league..., and I'm competing with other teams in more competitive leagues and no, I don't want this thread to be deleted, I still think this could work


To be fair it doesn’t really matter.  It was rejected very quickly so continuing to debate on the basis you think it could work for a problem only you perceive is a of a waste of time.  Not one single player has posted to support your suggestion so all that will eventually happen is the thread will be closed down.

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