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medal 5502
1 year 55 days ago
The number of laps in training should increase, especially for Leagues where we race with 1 car. We have a maximum of 5 laps to analyze fuel, wear and speed for each compound. 5 laps are not enough to do a good workout and draw all the necessary conclusions for the race. Fuel consumption varies a lot, sometimes with the same tire compound the variation is high. How to do a test with accurate levels with 5 laps?
One suggestion would be to increase it to at least 10 laps, just like in the 2-car Leagues. Another suggestion would be to have the driver drive more laps and use only one training session, for a total of 5 attempts.
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medal 5000
1 year 48 days ago
2-car Leagues uses the same 5laps per driver in training.
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medal 5879
1 year 33 days ago
It's easier to find the optimal setup for a car in a 2 car league and same strength on drivers but with limited things you can adjust for setting up the car I guess its not a issue after some races and with a good procedure for searching for "fail"
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medal 5859
1 year 32 days ago

Yeapie 
2-car Leagues uses the same 5laps per driver in training.



I think you missed the point Anthony made, which is a good one, and as Rune points out; in a 2-car league, yes, each driver only gets 5 practice laps. However, finding the optimal setup is easier in a 2-car league because in total, 10 practice laps can be performed.
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medal 5502
1 year 32 days ago
It was exactly this suggestion, to have more accurate data. My proposal is not to have more training laps to find the ideal Wing and Height configuration, this is fixed and is very easy to write down in a spreadsheet. 10 laps would be much better to analyze fuel consumption and tire wear
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medal 5011
1 year 32 days ago
I don't think this is necessary. Practice laps are all conducted at Push level 3, if you are going to cycle through different push levels and utilise push level 5 in the race then you know you need to carry a little more fuel.

You have all the data you need to determine fuel usage and contributors to fuel usage i.e cold/hot track, tyre type you intend to use.

Abu Dhabi and Monza when hot you are more or less using push level 1 or 2 for most of the lap so you can get away with carrying the fuel stated in practice or less if you dare.
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medal 5502
1 year 31 days ago
The training is performed at level 3 impulse, but as I mentioned, I've seen it vary by up to 0.3. This in a 100% race is 3/4 liters more fuel, if wrong it ends your race. In a race you can use up to 3 tire compounds, how do we do accurate tests with just 5 laps? 10 laps would bring much more safety, I don't see any negative points if it were accepted. If you don't agree, no problem!
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medal 5011
1 year 31 days ago

Anthony
The training is performed at level 3 impulse, but as I mentioned, I've seen it vary by up to 0.3. This in a 100% race is 3/4 liters more fuel, if wrong it ends your race. In a race you can use up to 3 tire compounds, how do we do accurate tests with just 5 laps? 10 laps would bring much more safety, I don't see any negative points if it were accepted. If you don't agree, no problem!


You are just explaining a challenge of the game to me honestly, configuring a method on how much fuel to take based on the current practice data is down to the player. 


5 additional laps of data providing the same data points where the only change being lap time doesn't give you a new answer compared to previously.

As for the fuel variation I've only seen 0.1 variation and thats when you practice with harder/softer tyre sets. If you are getting 0.3 then maybe you are running practice laps too early, I don't tbh know never seen 0.3 variation.




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medal 5502
1 year 31 days ago
The 0.3 variation that I mentioned is rare, in my training it must have only happened 3 times, but it happens. Now 0.1 and 0.2 is not that uncommon, not that it is bad, it is good to have a greater challenge for the races. Laps with the same tire compound have a smaller variation, but we normally use 2 and even 3 compounds.
Example: If I want to start on soft tires, put on medium tires during the race and finish on hard tires I would have difficulty having accurate data for the 3 compounds with just 5 laps. With 10 I would be able to do 3/4 laps with each compound and go to the race more safely.
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medal 5000 Super Mod
1 year 31 days ago
Anthony
The 0.3 variation that I mentioned is rare, in my training it must have only happened 3 times, but it happens. Now 0.1 and 0.2 is not that uncommon, not that it is bad, it is good to have a greater challenge for the races. Laps with the same tire compound have a smaller variation, but we normally use 2 and even 3 compounds.
Example: If I want to start on soft tires, put on medium tires during the race and finish on hard tires I would have difficulty having accurate data for the 3 compounds with just 5 laps. With 10 I would be able to do 3/4 laps with each compound and go to the race more safely.

It is "Push Level" that influences the fuel consumption, it is not directly related to the tyre compound. The tyre compound only indirectly affects fuel consumption because during the race the softer compounds require lower PL (hence lower fuel consumption) and obviously the opposite for harder compounds. Clearly temperature also plays a huge part because again, if it is hot you will use lower push to prevent the tyres overheating.

Having 10 laps will not give you any better information than what you get for 5. If you're worried about 1 lap out of 5 having a variance of 0.1 litres then take the average of the five laps.

A better approach is to make notes of fuel consumption and push levels after a race and use this information to inform you at future races at the same circuit. Most hardcore managers do not take any notice of practice lap data when determining tyre strategy or fuel requirements.
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