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medal 5000
7 years 215 days ago
can we please have the wetness of track displayed properly because for me 0mm of wetness is bone dry not wet what so ever.

how are we supposed to race in the situation when we don't know what tyre to put on.

it like going into a bank and asking £0 pound which is what i would get ( not £19).

adjusting to new igp is a challenge as it is.

so another one of my races ruined .
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medal 5000
7 years 215 days ago
same here. Inters were faster when 0water. or was 0.5 or 0.8 who knows? i don't. :(
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medal 5000
7 years 215 days ago
i used to enjoy waiting for the race to start on old igp. but know with all the design problems and being so far off the pace and now with the most basic grapics being wrong i can hardly bear myself logging in to see the races.
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medal 5000
7 years 215 days ago
oh jason, i know, we have to be patient. i know they are working hard, and i know we are helping by being patient and writing in the forums. i understand, some times i miss a lot the older version but, don't give up, we are going the right way, little by little, we are all going to be awarded for this :D
stay with us! great races are yet to come!!!
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medal 5145 CEO & CTO
7 years 215 days ago
Are you saying that 0mm isn't a totally dry track? This is something I think I saw in my race earlier in the week. I actually brought it up with the viewer dev immediately but he isn't working again until Monday.

The first 3 times I read your post, I couldn't wrap my head around it. I thought you were angry that 0mm didn't mean lots of water on the track!
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medal 5496
7 years 215 days ago
No, it's that the rain indicator isn't sensitive enough to show how wet a track is. We used to have fractions of a mm.
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medal 5000
7 years 215 days ago (edited 7 years 215 days ago)
This is really needed especially in wet to dry conditions, adding 1 decimal for example :
- 0.1mm
- 0.2mm
- 0.3mm
and so on ..

Edit :
@Jack : The problem is 0mm now means it's dry or still wet (old 0/19%).
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medal 5000
7 years 215 days ago
It's Jack here on a test account. I reported this issue at the beginning of the weekend (before this post) as I saw it on my race too. It will be addressed but decimals are not necessary. The number just needs to be rounded up whenever it's below 0. The level of precision at 0.x is honestly almost totally pointless. Think about how big 1mm is in real life and imagine it as water on a track. Anything at all is enough to upset dry tyres but it's pointless to measure less than 1mm.

It's only become an issue because the sim internally has even more precision than that, and the viewer is clearly rounding down when it should be rounding up below 0. It should be addressed on Monday.
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medal 5000
7 years 215 days ago
@Jack : The problem is not the 0mm shown, it really is the scale, 0mm means 0/19 in the old system that's why 0mm can be both dry and wet enough to see inters 3s faster per lap.
If you're really against decimals with 0.1mm precision (= 2% in the old system) what do you think of a compromise with 0.5, 1.0, 1.5mm for example ?
It would be interesting to see what others managers think about it.
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medal 5000
7 years 215 days ago
When is it dry enough in the old system to be dry tyre time?
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medal 5000
7 years 215 days ago (edited 7 years 215 days ago)
5% was the dry/inters limit.
But when wet to dry weather seems to work this is not the case in the other way (dry > wet), I wrote about it in the forums but cannot find it.
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medal 5000
7 years 215 days ago
My explanation as far i can guess haha is:
5mm (100% of old System) Heavy Rain Wet (Blue) are faster (i did a race today with that and wet tire was dropping 1% per lap with temp of tire just on red)
3mm Rain (60% of Old system) Wet are faster unless inters running with low fuel and higher push. (With Rain never goes up to 5mm).
2mm (40% of old System) Inters are faster
1mm (20% of old system) inters are faster
0mm( Anything under 20% of old system) Unknown as we can't see when the dry or inter is needed and we see from lap times ( SS tire sometimes run as Inter here).

Wet Tires getting hot and very hot in all cases but 5mm as far i saw till now.

The main thing for me is to see under 1mm so we can judge if there is a problem or is just the new system (The Track Dry faster than Old system but maybe more realistic now also starts to Dry at 60% = 3mm when is Normal Rain not at 100% = 5mm)
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medal 5000
7 years 215 days ago
@Joey Maybe the same thing is with Fuel and Drivers Pitting early as we see 3.6 lets say for 1/5 push and for 2/5 of push but is it just the Viewer or internal also?;)
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medal 5000
7 years 214 days ago
The point of having decimal values would be to tell us if it's getting wetter or dryer. Having decimals will tell us more quickly.
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medal 5000
7 years 214 days ago
@Jack, lol yes sorry, i think we were a little bit angry. :P too much passion for racing, sorry ;)
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medal 5000
7 years 213 days ago
I would like to be able to turn off the rain strategy which we set in the race strategy screen pre race. Once I am attending I want to respond manually. Currently the millisecond it starts raining it calls you into the pits so that if you are coming to the end of the third sector and one drop of rain hits the track your cars pit. That pisses me off. I want at least one lap to decide what I want to do and change fuel levels and such.
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medal 5000
7 years 210 days ago
Thr pre-race tyre strategy needs to include the mm setting like before. I just had a wet race in Japan and before the race set for wet tyres if raining and Inters if it stops raining. The issue is the track was 2mm wet which meant Inters were the better tyre. There was no way of knowing how wet the track was going to be or how to setup properly beforehand. It screwed the race not least because those that didn't setup got a bigger boost because they happened to be on the default setting which is inters.
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medal 5000
7 years 210 days ago
@Lee : For now there is a bigger problem, all the wet races I did since August started at 3mm and we never gained a single mm, only one race started at 5mm despite test runs showing inters were 4s faster than wet full 30s before quali
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