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Carlos Pereira medal 5777
148 days ago
I'm beginning a new season and to avoid design points errors I left my league, joined a new one, and then joined my league again, two times, because I saw these errors on the first try.

The errors are:
With fuel and tyres providers set to Chavon and Komehome, I lost 1 point in:
Acceleration
Breaking
Cooling
Downforce
Handling

Gain 1 point in fuel and 2 in tyres economy

I'd appreciate your help, thanks
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Red Craigie medal 5246 Super Mod
148 days ago
Hi Carlos

https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/45546

Please review this article. Most likely your CD is a level below your account level and not 5 star. This means you will not generate the maximum design possible when joining a league. You will need your CD to be either 5 star or the same level as your account if I understand the mechanics correctly.
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Carlos Pereira medal 5777
148 days ago
Hi Red Craigie,

Yes, I understand but my CD is a 5* even if he is 1 level below the team level. I've turned a lot of levels this way (the CD level became -1 than the team's new level and it was the first time it happened).
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John Doe medal 5007
148 days ago
Hi Carlos, 5 stars is not enough. Your CD must be a level above your account in order to have the maximum possible. So if you are level 26, look a for a lvl 27 5 stars CD and TD. They are super rare I know.

If you don't you will always have to leave a point somewhere. This game (or the programming language is based on) does not round numbers properly.
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Fred Silva medal 5625
148 days ago

Giovanni
Hi Carlos, 5 stars is not enough. Your CD must be a level above your account in order to have the maximum possible. So if you are level 26, look a for a lvl 27 5 stars CD and TD. They are super rare I know.

If you don't you will always have to leave a point somewhere. This game (or the programming language is based on) does not round numbers properly.


I've turned a lot of levels this way (the CD level became -1 than the team's new level and it was the first time it happened).




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Kevin Bissell medal 5000 Super Mod
148 days ago
I disagree with the statement that a CD has to be one level higher than the team.. A CD the same level is sufficient to generate maximum design regardless of whether the CD displays as 4.5 or 5 star.

A CD one level lower must display as full 5 star to get maximum design.

A CD one level higher will always display as full 5 star.
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John Doe medal 5007
148 days ago
You can both disagree but that's what happens. I don't play daily and every time I have months to see how every choice affects my next season and I can affirm this without the worry of being wrong.

4.5 does not have the same effect as 5 stars.
Probably it worked at lower levels where decimal numbers are not far from the upper integer. But now I clearly see it's not the same effect.

Edit: there was another reply deleted.
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Red Craigie medal 5246 Super Mod
148 days ago
Yes I deleted mine as Kevin and me crossed messages and said the same thing.

I will say again you do not need 1 level above your level for maximum stats on a reset. You can achieve this with the same level as your level.
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Carlos Pereira medal 5777
148 days ago (Last edited by Carlos Pereira 148 days ago)
Yes, I know that, or a 5-star CD (4.5 or 5 star or a red 5 star, all that are the same). It's why I posted this error. 
I don´t know why it is marked as solved!
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Kevin Bissell medal 5000 Super Mod
148 days ago (Last edited by Kevin Bissell 147 days ago)
Giovanni
You can both disagree but that's what happens. I don't play daily and every time I have months to see how every choice affects my next season and I can affirm this without the worry of being wrong.

4.5 does not have the same effect as 5 stars.
Probably it worked at lower levels where decimal numbers are not far from the upper integer. But now I clearly see it's not the same effect.

Edit: there was another reply deleted.

I too have been monitoring this for months since the L30 update and can categorically state that you do not need a CD a level above team level to get maximum start design. A CD at the same level is sufficient.

To prove this, within the last half hour I have used this L25 account... https://igpmanager.com/app/d=profile&team=1681712&tab=overview
With this +Handling / -TE L25 CD (which incidentally displays as 4.5 stars)... https://igpmanager.com/app/d=staff&id=15054528&tab=attributes
To join this 21 race per season league during their season break... https://igpmanager.com/app/p=league&id=606284&tab=info

This is the car design I received..

The Engine/Fuel/Tyre suppliers give combined +32 FE and -12 TE. So as you can see the core design is 63 Handling, 21 TE and 42 in the remaining 6 attributes which is the maximum 3/2/1 you can achieve for season start design. All with a 4.5 star CD at the same level as the team.

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Kevin Bissell medal 5000 Super Mod
147 days ago

Carlos
Yes, I know that, or a 5-star CD (4.5 or 5 star or a red 5 star, all that are the same). It's why I posted this error. 
I don´t know why it is marked as solved!

Hi Carlos, please can you let me know what is the core starting design of your car (ignoring the suppliers).

You have a CD one level lower than your team. Is this CD displaying as full five yellow stars or 4.5 stars?
If it is only 4.5 stars and 1 level lower then this is why you haven't received maximum design.
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Carlos Pereira medal 5777
147 days ago
Yes, 1 level lower and 4.5 stars.

Acc 83
Brk 22
Dwnf 35
Hand 34
Fuel 33
Tyre 40
Elves ; Donelots
+26 Acc -13 Brk

Yes, it's as you said.

Everything I read was outdated or wrong :(

Thank you Kevin
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John Doe medal 5007
147 days ago
@Kevin @Red
Of course you are both right when we talk about joining a new league (which is the topic of this thread). I agree with you but we don't know how much reliable is the star rating algorithm. 4.82 is not like 5.0 but we still see 5 yellow stars. That's my concern and why I recommend an higher level for staff.

My last statement was more generic and referred to initial design points after spenting a whole season in the same league because I have seen strange and unexpected things in my 3 years here (I've been a bit off-topic maybe).
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