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medal 5018
98 days ago
Hi, I just wanted to ask what do the admins consider as farming and/or poor usage of diverse accounts that one has. If, for example, one person of my league cannot be always active in the league and asks me for doing his setups before a race, that's multi accounts? And if I created diverse accounts for trying to revive a league and getting in some races with all of them, that's farming?

I would like to get clarified about what do you consider farming or a poor usage of multi accounts, thank you in advance.
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medal 5817
98 days ago
Pakitín
Hi, I just wanted to ask what do the admins consider as farming and/or poor usage of diverse accounts that one has. If, for example, one person of my league cannot be always active in the league and asks me for doing his setups before a race, that's multi accounts? And if I created diverse accounts for trying to revive a league and getting in some races with all of them, that's farming?

I would like to get clarified about what do you consider farming or a poor usage of multi accounts, thank you in advance.



If you make accounts for reviving the league the accounts you created have to don't have sponsors i think
But what happens now i think it's not normal,an example what Rollo said i think it's 100%,and i think Alfredo is right too to be honest,they said soemthing very interesting
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medal 5018
98 days ago

Bogdan

Pakitín
Hi, I just wanted to ask what do the admins consider as farming and/or poor usage of diverse accounts that one has. If, for example, one person of my league cannot be always active in the league and asks me for doing his setups before a race, that's multi accounts? And if I created diverse accounts for trying to revive a league and getting in some races with all of them, that's farming?

I would like to get clarified about what do you consider farming or a poor usage of multi accounts, thank you in advance.



If you make accounts for reviving the league the accounts you created have to don't have sponsors I think

I didn't know that, even if I play with all of the accounts? Thank you.


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medal 5817
98 days ago

https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/59447
Check here

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medal 5018
98 days ago
Thank you so much Bogdan!
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medal 5817
98 days ago
No problem!
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medal 5018
98 days ago
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=profile&manager=1973781

The banned account.. Proof it had staff and not at all like Jose claims it had no staff. I used the lvl1 driver temporarily to not age my 191cm driver which I wanted to use in a live league, while trying to buy a driver from the HQ, I dont recall if I was waiting for rotation to get a t30 or if I lacked the last tokens. 

I haven't been home more than 2 days the past 10 days so I thought I had done less races with the lvl1 driver but it ended up being 15 races total. Some argue that is considered farming, I think it's just an unbelievably unfortunate timing as I had no intentions to farm and the goal was to get properly ready first to compete in the offline league and once I had proper engine points I'd go to a live league. It is such an unbelievably long way to get account top level race ready and I am sorry but I work hard and sometimes I do not make IGP my number one priority. Was I farming? At this point I am too tired to argue further... Might try to appeal on monday when I get home.
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medal 5817
98 days ago

Rollo
https://igpmanager.com/app/d=profile&manager=1973781

The banned account.. Proof it had staff and not at all like Jose claims it had no staff. I used the lvl1 driver temporarily to not age my 191cm driver which I wanted to use in a live league, while trying to buy a driver from the HQ, I dont recall if I was waiting for rotation to get a t30 or if I lacked the last tokens. 

I haven't been home more than 2 days the past 10 days so I thought I had done less races with the lvl1 driver but it ended up being 15 races total. Some argue that is considered farming, I think it's just an unbelievably unfortunate timing as I had no intentions to farm and the goal was to get properly ready first to compete in the offline league and once I had proper engine points I'd go to a live league. It is such an unbelievably long way to get account top level race ready and I am sorry but I work hard and sometimes I do not make IGP my number one priority. Was I farming? At this point I am too tired to argue further... Might try to appeal on monday when I get home.



Did they just close the last thread because they saw the players are against them???

Idk what makes them to think you were farming(excepting the driver)it looks ok,like you had your own engines,if you wanted to farm i am sure your account didn't look that good,and the league too,i don't thin there is something wrong 
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medal 5253
98 days ago

Bogdan
Did they just close the last thread because they saw the players are against them???



They closed the other thread cause it was full of bs.
First of all I don't understand why "Alfredo Urban" felt the need to make a brand new account to post all of that. According to him, he didn't lose any account so making a new one was just to post all that while hiding himself. Which is already smelly enough.
I can assure you there's no favouritism here. I play this game since 2016. I've seen moderators getting banned. Many accounts getting reset. And they even banned people who spent a lot of money in the game. Just to proof there's no special treatments whatsoever.
I spent a lot of money in this game since 2016 and I still got one of my accounts banned a few years ago. José didn't care about that when he banned my account. I should have got a special treatment if what "Alfredo Urban" said was true, since I've been financing iGP for years. But I didn't.
I was also a beta tester for a short while, been part of a testing league a few years ago and I can clearly remember several Spanish players being part of the testing. So even saying there are no Spanish beta testers is false.
I'd like for him to give a real reason why he believes there's favouritism around. Tell the names. Show the facts. Instead of making it just a big random accusation about nationalities and supposed friendships, which only sounds like bs to me.
Also keep in mind, iGP staff is a small group of people. Other than Jack, José and the developers, all moderators are volunteers, it's not their job and they do it in their free time. So it might also happen they'll miss something while checking leagues and accounts. We might as well help and report a wrong behaviour if there's a reason, instead of crying about supposed favouritism having no proof while hiding behind brand new accounts purposely made up just for that.
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medal 5817
98 days ago

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Bogdan
Did they just close the last thread because they saw the players are against them???



They closed the other thread cause it was full of bs.
First of all I don't understand why "Alfredo Urban" felt the need to make a brand new account to post all of that. According to him, he didn't lose any account so making a new one was just to post all that while hiding himself. Which is already smelly enough.
I can assure you there's no favouritism here. I play this game since 2016. I've seen moderators getting banned. Many accounts getting reset. And they even banned people who spent a lot of money in the game. Just to proof there's no special treatments whatsoever.
I spent a lot of money in this game since 2016 and I still got one of my accounts banned a few years ago. José didn't care about that when he banned my account. I should have got a special treatment if what "Alfredo Urban" said was true, since I've been financing iGP for years. But I didn't.
I was also a beta tester for a short while, been part of a testing league a few years ago and I can clearly remember several Spanish players being part of the testing. So even saying there are no Spanish beta testers is false.
I'd like for him to give a real reason why he believes there's favouritism around. Tell the names. Show the facts. Instead of making it just a big random accusation about nationalities and supposed friendships, which only sounds like bs to me.
Also keep in mind, iGP staff is a small group of people. Other than Jack, José and the developers, all moderators are volunteers, it's not their job and they do it in their free time. So it might also happen they'll miss something while checking leagues and accounts. We might as well help and report a wrong behaviour if there's a reason, instead of crying about supposed favouritism having no proof while hiding behind brand new accounts purposely made up just for that.



I don't think there's favouritism or something like that,if you saw i said in the thread too,my only problem was they banned Rollo's account,and he said something,that can make me think he wasn't farming

But Red explained me how they take the decisions,and now i understand,but i still think a ban is too much.
I know there's no favouritism,Red explained me  and now i know how they take the decisions
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medal 5018
98 days ago
If 15 races with a low level driver and the rest properly done is enough to warrant a permanent ban on a 5 years old account that have almost only been doing live-racing for the largest part of it, then the rules needs to be changed. 

I like racing in IGP with people I have gotten to know here and raced with since the beginning, but no matter how much I'd enjoy the game, I could never make it my number one priority because I have to work IRL. 
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medal 5000
98 days ago
I would appreciate it if you would respect the opinion of others and not say that it is bs. What I said yesterday is not just a personal opinion, it is an opinion that the rest of the communities have, here you live in a bubble and you don't know anything about what happens outside it.

Of course they banned here people , no one denies that they do not. But as I have said before in a much smaller amount compared to other communities and don't tell me that this will be because in other communities they farm more because that is bs.

I would also appreciate it if you didn't lie about what I said or didn't say, thank goodness it's all written, because at no time have I said that there are no Spanish beta testers. And I don't know what that is about, because it doesn't matter the nationality of the beta testers, the mods and etc. When I said that in this community there are many mods, beta testers and etc, I meant that you all move through this community, regardless of the nationality that some of you want to take the problem for.

And I haven't said that José is the problem, I've said that there are mods, beta testers and etc that don't ban (or report accounts that are farming) their friends or accounts and you who have been here for so many years already know it, you don't need to disguise.

That you say "just to proof there is no special treatment" is very funny, you say it as if you were someone special. They have banned accounts older than yours and accounts where a lot of money has been invested as well. The fact that you have been banned does not show that there is no other type of treatment in this community. So show more respect for those people that have been banned for no reason.


So I ask you please to stop saying that I speak bs and that it is a lie, because if I don't put here screenshots it is so as not to get people in trouble with whom I get along well and I have a certain appreciation for them but all of you who say that it is a lie to treat differently, you just have to go to other communities and inform yourself and you will know the opinion of the rest. Here I am the one who is writing because the rest of the communities are fed up

The thing is that I'm going to put here links and accounts that are farming , whether some of you like it or not, it's neither frustration as some say nor revenge, it's giving a hand to the staff so that everyone is treated equally. There's nothing else. I see some of you very nervous for being against farming..


As I said, be careful to say that I have no proof and that I am lying lest you get any surprises, because you don't know who I am But I know you all  my dear friend ?. Anyway, I find it very funny see some of you so sad  when you know well that I am not lying

BTW,
if you have questions, it's as easy as writing me a PM


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medal 5253
98 days ago

Alfredo 

As I said, be careful to say that I have no proof and that I am lying lest you get any surprises, because you don't know who I am But I know you all  my dear friend ?. Anyway, I find it very funny see some of you so sad  when you know well that I am not lying


This is the funniest part of your last message.

What I know is that you're very frustrated.
You said you know all of us. Show yourself then. What's the point of hiding yourself behind a L1 account just to make accusations? That's childish and cowardly behaviour. And that's not even just my opinion but a fact. You behaving like this is already a proof of your toxic intentions and I would never trust you from the start.
You say different communities are being treated differently for some reason. I don't think that's true and I told you why. You might as well tell us why you say the contrary and show us who's in the right and who's in the wrong.
I absolutely don't care about the farming thing, maybe it's not clear to you. What I think is bs is stating there's favouritism based on different communities (nationalities) and supposed friendships. I'm telling you they absolutely don't care about your nationality or who's friend with who, they will still ban you if you get caught in fault.
You also say you will put link and names of people and leagues who are farming. Cool. Do it. But also let everybody know who you are, instead of being a rat hiding in the sewers. You're posting on a public platform so expect people replying. Or just send your proofs to Jose and the admins privately, if you're so worried to show yourself. That's what annoys me the most and that's what makes me think you're just being toxic. You hide yourself, you're telling the whole iGP community that people are being treated differently depending on nationalities and supposed friendships but you still don't give us any proof of that. How funny. What's the point of that? All I see is a rat babbling bs.
And must be clear I have absolutely no reason to come here in defense of José and the iGP staff. Me and José are not even on good terms, we argued a million times for years. So I have absolutely no reason and no interest to be defending him. And I absolutely don't care about you reporting accounts and leagues for farming, that's not my problem, do whatever makes you sleep better at nights. My only concerns are 1- you hiding yourself like a rat to do so and 2- you babbling about supposed favouritism.
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medal 5061
98 days ago

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Alfredo 

As I said, be careful to say that I have no proof and that I am lying lest you get any surprises, because you don't know who I am But I know you all  my dear friend ?. Anyway, I find it very funny see some of you so sad  when you know well that I am not lying


This is the funniest part of your last message.

What I know is that you're very frustrated.
You said you know all of us. Show yourself then. What's the point of hiding yourself behind a L1 account just to make accusations? That's childish and cowardly behaviour. And that's not even just my opinion but a fact. You behaving like this is already a proof of your toxic intentions and I would never trust you from the start.
You say different communities are being treated differently for some reason. I don't think that's true and I told you why. You might as well tell us why you say the contrary and show us who's in the right and who's in the wrong.
I absolutely don't care about the farming thing, maybe it's not clear to you. What I think is bs is stating there's favouritism based on different communities (nationalities) and supposed friendships. I'm telling you they absolutely don't care about your nationality or who's friend with who, they will still ban you if you get caught in fault.
You also say you will put link and names of people and leagues who are farming. Cool. Do it. But also let everybody know who you are, instead of being a rat hiding in the sewers. You're posting on a public platform so expect people replying. Or just send your proofs to Jose and the admins privately, if you're so worried to show yourself. That's what annoys me the most and that's what makes me think you're just being toxic. You hide yourself, you're telling the whole iGP community that people are being treated differently depending on nationalities and supposed friendships but you still don't give us any proof of that. How funny. What's the point of that? All I see is a rat babbling bs.
And must be clear I have absolutely no reason to come here in defense of José and the iGP staff. Me and José are not even on good terms, we argued a million times for years. So I have absolutely no reason and no interest to be defending him. And I absolutely don't care about you reporting accounts and leagues for farming, that's not my problem, do whatever makes you sleep better at nights. My only concerns are 1- you hiding yourself like a rat to do so and 2- you babbling about supposed favouritism.


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medal 5000
98 days ago

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Alfredo 

As I said, be careful to say that I have no proof and that I am lying lest you get any surprises, because you don't know who I am But I know you all  my dear friend ?. Anyway, I find it very funny see some of you so sad  when you know well that I am not lying


This is the funniest part of your last message.

What I know is that you're very frustrated.
You said you know all of us. Show yourself then. What's the point of hiding yourself behind a L1 account just to make accusations? That's childish and cowardly behaviour. And that's not even just my opinion but a fact. You behaving like this is already a proof of your toxic intentions and I would never trust you from the start.
You say different communities are being treated differently for some reason. I don't think that's true and I told you why. You might as well tell us why you say the contrary and show us who's in the right and who's in the wrong.
I absolutely don't care about the farming thing, maybe it's not clear to you. What I think is bs is stating there's favouritism based on different communities (nationalities) and supposed friendships. I'm telling you they absolutely don't care about your nationality or who's friend with who, they will still ban you if you get caught in fault.
You also say you will put link and names of people and leagues who are farming. Cool. Do it. But also let everybody know who you are, instead of being a rat hiding in the sewers. You're posting on a public platform so expect people replying. Or just send your proofs to Jose and the admins privately, if you're so worried to show yourself. That's what annoys me the most and that's what makes me think you're just being toxic. You hide yourself, you're telling the whole iGP community that people are being treated differently depending on nationalities and supposed friendships but you still don't give us any proof of that. How funny. What's the point of that? All I see is a rat babbling bs.
And must be clear I have absolutely no reason to come here in defense of José and the iGP staff. Me and José are not even on good terms, we argued a million times for years. So I have absolutely no reason and no interest to be defending him. And I absolutely don't care about you reporting accounts and leagues for farming, that's not my problem, do whatever makes you sleep better at nights. My only concerns are 1- you hiding yourself like a rat to do so and 2- you babbling about supposed favouritism.



Just for your information, as soon as I read that you have called me a rat I have stopped reading and obviously I have nothing more to do than talk to a person like you. Do you know who is a frustrated person? The one that insults and disrespects and not the one that gives an opinion shared by the large part of the community.

BTW I hope that insults are not tolerated here, as in the rest of the communities, and take action with "Lolita"
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medal 5147
98 days ago

Slo

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Alfredo 

As I said, be careful to say that I have no proof and that I am lying lest you get any surprises, because you don't know who I am But I know you all  my dear friend ?. Anyway, I find it very funny see some of you so sad  when you know well that I am not lying


This is the funniest part of your last message.

What I know is that you're very frustrated.
You said you know all of us. Show yourself then. What's the point of hiding yourself behind a L1 account just to make accusations? That's childish and cowardly behaviour. And that's not even just my opinion but a fact. You behaving like this is already a proof of your toxic intentions and I would never trust you from the start.
You say different communities are being treated differently for some reason. I don't think that's true and I told you why. You might as well tell us why you say the contrary and show us who's in the right and who's in the wrong.
I absolutely don't care about the farming thing, maybe it's not clear to you. What I think is bs is stating there's favouritism based on different communities (nationalities) and supposed friendships. I'm telling you they absolutely don't care about your nationality or who's friend with who, they will still ban you if you get caught in fault.
You also say you will put link and names of people and leagues who are farming. Cool. Do it. But also let everybody know who you are, instead of being a rat hiding in the sewers. You're posting on a public platform so expect people replying. Or just send your proofs to Jose and the admins privately, if you're so worried to show yourself. That's what annoys me the most and that's what makes me think you're just being toxic. You hide yourself, you're telling the whole iGP community that people are being treated differently depending on nationalities and supposed friendships but you still don't give us any proof of that. How funny. What's the point of that? All I see is a rat babbling bs.
And must be clear I have absolutely no reason to come here in defense of José and the iGP staff. Me and José are not even on good terms, we argued a million times for years. So I have absolutely no reason and no interest to be defending him. And I absolutely don't care about you reporting accounts and leagues for farming, that's not my problem, do whatever makes you sleep better at nights. My only concerns are 1- you hiding yourself like a rat to do so and 2- you babbling about supposed favouritism.


? drop.



Says the one who hides under someone else’s alias ??


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medal 5061
98 days ago

Slo

Slo

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Alfredo 

As I said, be careful to say that I have no proof and that I am lying lest you get any surprises, because you don't know who I am But I know you all  my dear friend ?. Anyway, I find it very funny see some of you so sad  when you know well that I am not lying


This is the funniest part of your last message.

What I know is that you're very frustrated.
You said you know all of us. Show yourself then. What's the point of hiding yourself behind a L1 account just to make accusations? That's childish and cowardly behaviour. And that's not even just my opinion but a fact. You behaving like this is already a proof of your toxic intentions and I would never trust you from the start.
You say different communities are being treated differently for some reason. I don't think that's true and I told you why. You might as well tell us why you say the contrary and show us who's in the right and who's in the wrong.
I absolutely don't care about the farming thing, maybe it's not clear to you. What I think is bs is stating there's favouritism based on different communities (nationalities) and supposed friendships. I'm telling you they absolutely don't care about your nationality or who's friend with who, they will still ban you if you get caught in fault.
You also say you will put link and names of people and leagues who are farming. Cool. Do it. But also let everybody know who you are, instead of being a rat hiding in the sewers. You're posting on a public platform so expect people replying. Or just send your proofs to Jose and the admins privately, if you're so worried to show yourself. That's what annoys me the most and that's what makes me think you're just being toxic. You hide yourself, you're telling the whole iGP community that people are being treated differently depending on nationalities and supposed friendships but you still don't give us any proof of that. How funny. What's the point of that? All I see is a rat babbling bs.
And must be clear I have absolutely no reason to come here in defense of José and the iGP staff. Me and José are not even on good terms, we argued a million times for years. So I have absolutely no reason and no interest to be defending him. And I absolutely don't care about you reporting accounts and leagues for farming, that's not my problem, do whatever makes you sleep better at nights. My only concerns are 1- you hiding yourself like a rat to do so and 2- you babbling about supposed favouritism.


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Says the one who hides under someone else’s alias ??




Paying homage ?

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medal 5253
98 days ago
Alfredo 

Just for your information, as soon as I read that you have called me a rat I have stopped reading and obviously I have nothing more to do than talk to a person like you. Do you know who is a frustrated person? The one that insults and disrespects and not the one that gives an opinion shared by the large part of the community.

BTW I hope that insults are not tolerated here, as in the rest of the communities, and take action with "Lolita"



How convenient.

And funniest of all you still talk about respect and disrespect.
Mine is not an insult but a matter of fact. You hide yourself and come here making accusations talking about supposed favouritism. YOU are the disrespectful one. And YOU are the one insulting people who read you. You acting like a rat is a fact. You could also have acted like a grown up and show us all what's the real problem here. Cause I only see one problem and that's you.
Where's the large part of the community you're talking about? I can't see it. Also what you say is not an opinion, you're making accusations. Which is completely different.
You hiding yourself to make accusations without any real proof is much more offensive than me calling you a rat for being a rat.
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medal 5817
97 days ago

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Alfredo 

Just for your information, as soon as I read that you have called me a rat I have stopped reading and obviously I have nothing more to do than talk to a person like you. Do you know who is a frustrated person? The one that insults and disrespects and not the one that gives an opinion shared by the large part of the community.

BTW I hope that insults are not tolerated here, as in the rest of the communities, and take action with "Lolita"



How convenient.

And funniest of all you still talk about respect and disrespect.
Mine is not an insult but a matter of fact. You hide yourself and come here making accusations talking about supposed favouritism. YOU are the disrespectful one. And YOU are the one insulting people who read you. You acting like a rat is a fact. You could also have acted like a grown up and show us all what's the real problem here. Cause I only see one problem and that's you.
Where's the large part of the community you're talking about? I can't see it. Also what you say is not an opinion, you're making accusations. Which is completely different.
You hiding yourself to make accusations without any real proof is much more offensive than me calling you a rat for being a rat.


If he wants to have support he has to make us to think if is real,but for now he didnt give us any example,and he is just saying it,but we can't know if what he said is real,so for now we can say is lying

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medal 5000
97 days ago

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Alfredo 

Just for your information, as soon as I read that you have called me a rat I have stopped reading and obviously I have nothing more to do than talk to a person like you. Do you know who is a frustrated person? The one that insults and disrespects and not the one that gives an opinion shared by the large part of the community.

BTW I hope that insults are not tolerated here, as in the rest of the communities, and take action with "Lolita"



How convenient.

And funniest of all you still talk about respect and disrespect.
Mine is not an insult but a matter of fact. You hide yourself and come here making accusations talking about supposed favouritism. YOU are the disrespectful one. And YOU are the one insulting people who read you. You acting like a rat is a fact. You could also have acted like a grown up and show us all what's the real problem here. Cause I only see one problem and that's you.
Where's the large part of the community you're talking about? I can't see it. Also what you say is not an opinion, you're making accusations. Which is completely different.
You hiding yourself to make accusations without any real proof is much more offensive than me calling you a rat for being a rat.




To carry the time you have been in Igp you have no idea what happens , which I understand, if you don't leave this community then you talk without having a clue.

Do you think that people are going to criticize or talk about what I am talking about with their accounts? Do you really think they are so stupid to comment on something here to have their comment deleted or their account banned? As has already happened in other communities? Do you know why you say that nonsense? Because here, people like you who insult and think they are superior to others, nothing happens to you, the clear example is here. You insult someone by calling them a rat and here you continue to write with your cockiness and that you think they are funny with disrespect.

Do you want to know what the rest of the  community think ? Move, ask and inform yourself and don't expect them to come here to write anything so that they take any kind of reprisals

BTW, you're just as much of a rat as me, because you don't have your real name and surname either. So if you want me to write with my account, give example before and put your real name and surname?
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