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medal 5000
6 years 271 days ago
Hi All,

please change the performances of the different tyres. Actually the 80% of the GP are winneable with 1 pitstop and hard tyres.

Honestly the game is going to annoying me and many in my league....

With the H tyres you can drive faster than SS during the qualification sessision (ex. SS 1.51.358, H 1.49.596) and is not because the DRS or Boost...
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medal 5000
6 years 271 days ago
A none stop discussion between the developers.

They have a few options, either increase tyre wear for shorter races or block and disable Fuel & Tyre Economy
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medal 5000
6 years 271 days ago
A better balance between tyres could be another way to go.
James
Malaysia 1point Fuel & Tyre Economy



More wear to hard and medium and a little less for soft and super soft
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medal 5000
6 years 271 days ago (edited 6 years 271 days ago)
working that out above.
6laps SS 132%
12 laps S (SSx2) 132%
18 laps M (SSx3)133% at 7.4% would show as 7% in practice
24 laps H (SSx4)132% at 5.5% would show as 6% in practice

But what it is currently showing
at 4% wear H tyre 33 laps 132%
at 6% wear M tyre 22 laps 132%
at 11% wear S tyre 12laps 132%
at 22% wear SS tyre 6laps 132%

shorter distance tyre would 4 laps extra
SS 6
S 10
M 14
H 18
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medal 5000
6 years 271 days ago
Nope.In my league,like all races the 2 stop or even 3 stop strategy is the way to go.Besides,Hard tires are only effective when the weather temp is really high and tire wear is really high
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medal 5000
6 years 271 days ago (edited 6 years 271 days ago)
Lancia
Hi All,

please change the performances of the different tyres. Actually the 80% of the GP are winneable with 1 pitstop and hard tyres.

Honestly the game is going to annoying me and many in my league....

With the H tyres you can drive faster than SS during the qualification sessision (ex. SS 1.51.358, H 1.49.596) and is not because the DRS or Boost...
I never managed that. Hards were always about 1.5 to 2 seconds slower than super softs both in practice and qualification. If someone else is faster then it's his car/driver that is faster, by quite a lot. Now in summer there are some tracks, as mentioned high wear and high temperature, that can be won with hard, hard and some more with soft, hard but that's a good thing. Because else we'd get those super softs only win everything posts from the winter even in the summer.

Currently I'm rather quite pleasantly surprised how many different tactics are present in Top10 or fight for the victory to the last lap.
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medal 5000
6 years 270 days ago
In my opinion the tyre wear is perfect now, but in 25% races it should increase because the best strategy in this kind of races is to start with M tyres with 0 pit stops.
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medal 5000
6 years 270 days ago
Guys, if you have time check my league and see the lap's time... the hard are too strong. Hardly you can find a winner with tyres that are not HARD... and rarely someone can win with SS.
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medal 6253
6 years 270 days ago
Nobody wins with SS in the summer.

Three experienced players have commented here. You have a lot of experience yet to gain. :)

I wish the new players would experiment with tyres more. What is there to lose?

You are all talking about how the hardest tyres are the fastest, but won't anybody be the nail that sticks out to try and win on a softer compound?
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medal 5000
6 years 270 days ago
Sure I have a lot to learn! :) and thanks the others players who answered to my concern.

Honestly yesterday we played with 18 degrees... not a high temperature able to justify the Hard..

about trying new strategies... I won almost all the races in the last 2 seasons and now (because bored about the situation) i started to test all the other tyres. Well I started to loose :))))

I simply think the Hard are actually the best tyres for resistance, speed and adaptability (18 degress... is not worm at all).

I'll wait winter... probably it will be better.

thanks all
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medal 5000
6 years 270 days ago
Blunion
Nobody wins with SS in the summer.


Except at Monoco;)

There are lots of winning strategies, some using three different tire compounds. The tires are nearly perfect as far as providing a variety of strategies with the exception that mediums are not useful except on a few tracks at just the right temperature. Spectate a few races at some of the top leagues and you will see.

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medal 5000
6 years 264 days ago
Please check my last race in ELITE... 10 degrees and my opponent put the hard tyres... and he won easy...

can you help me to understand where i'm wrong?
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medal 5000
6 years 264 days ago
Maybe he put alot of fuel in the car and burnt alot of them using PL5
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medal 5000
6 years 264 days ago
Blunion
Nobody wins with SS in the summer.

Three experienced players have commented here. You have a lot of experience yet to gain. :)

I wish the new players would experiment with tyres more. What is there to lose?

You are all talking about how the hardest tyres are the fastest, but won't anybody be the nail that sticks out to try and win on a softer compound?


In my league I am SMASHING with a 2 pit stop strategy every race. I have 3 picks depending on the circuit: SS-S-SS, SS-S-S, SS-S-M. Now I think they are not active, but the three or four first races I crushed them, between 30 seconds and 1 minute faster than the 3rd driver, being my drivers 1st and 2nd. The second team on the league was with a 1 pit stop strategy btw, beginning with SS and then selecting M or H.
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medal 6253
6 years 264 days ago
Brais
Blunion
Nobody wins with SS in the summer.

Three experienced players have commented here. You have a lot of experience yet to gain. :)

I wish the new players would experiment with tyres more. What is there to lose?

You are all talking about how the hardest tyres are the fastest, but won't anybody be the nail that sticks out to try and win on a softer compound?


In my league I am SMASHING with a 2 pit stop strategy every race. I have 3 picks depending on the circuit: SS-S-SS, SS-S-S, SS-S-M. Now I think they are not active, but the three or four first races I crushed them, between 30 seconds and 1 minute faster than the 3rd driver, being my drivers 1st and 2nd. The second team on the league was with a 1 pit stop strategy btw, beginning with SS and then selecting M or H.


Took a glance at some of your previous race results. In comparison to other players, they indeed look like they are inactive.
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medal 5000
6 years 264 days ago
@Lancia: Hards shouldn't work in Aus. If you look at the results from the more experienced leagues' elite tiers, no one uses Hards in Aus. Even if they allow you fewer stops, they are just too slow in Aus to capitalize on it. You'll find Hards a much better tyre to use in most of the warmer & faster tracks (more straights or high speed corners).

You did 20 laps on Mediums which is the worst tyre in the game. That might have played a big part.

Best tyres in Aus are supersofts (for shorter stints) and softs (for longer stints). Take note of how much they wear though, for worn tyres lose pace more and more each lap.

How you manage your push levels, tyre temps & tyre wear, stint length & fuel, and so on all have an effect on pace.

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medal 5000
6 years 263 days ago (edited 6 years 263 days ago)
One of the things I have discovered recently is that it is possible for managers to get through to elite without knowing the basics of tire management. By that I mean that the tires are fastest when running just the right temperature. Thus managers run ss or soft with higher push levels not realizing that tires running in the red region of the temp meter are much slower than harder tires because those hard tires are not overheating. This simple principle seems to elude many managers. That could be the real problem that Lancia is having here.

The rules section accessed under the question mark in the menu makes no mention of this and while Joey's beginners guide does mention it I think the majority of players never read the forum. Obviously Lancia has come to the forum but it is easy to miss the mention of tire temperatures in Joey's guide. The basics of playing the game should be addressed in a guide accessed by the question mark in the menu. This is an oversight by the developers and should be corrected.
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medal 5000
6 years 263 days ago
Blunion
Brais
Blunion
Nobody wins with SS in the summer.

Three experienced players have commented here. You have a lot of experience yet to gain. :)

I wish the new players would experiment with tyres more. What is there to lose?

You are all talking about how the hardest tyres are the fastest, but won't anybody be the nail that sticks out to try and win on a softer compound?


In my league I am SMASHING with a 2 pit stop strategy every race. I have 3 picks depending on the circuit: SS-S-SS, SS-S-S, SS-S-M. Now I think they are not active, but the three or four first races I crushed them, between 30 seconds and 1 minute faster than the 3rd driver, being my drivers 1st and 2nd. The second team on the league was with a 1 pit stop strategy btw, beginning with SS and then selecting M or H.


Took a glance at some of your previous race results. In comparison to other players, they indeed look like they are inactive.


Yup, they are now inactive. I realized that after I posted it. By the way, last season there was at least one team, same league, who was active. They had a 2 pit stop strategy, but wearing more medium tyres than I had. Furthermore, their cars were better than mine back then. I think it probably means that their strategy was bad in terms of fuel consumption, but they were stopping two times every race, so I dismissed that. Then, the only reasoning that fits is that SS-S-S or SS-S-M is faster than SS-M-M or S-S-M.
Or maybe their drivers.
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medal 5000
6 years 261 days ago
Thanks Boomer Kid and Dee Oldham :) For sure i have a lot to learn... and for sure this kind of conversation are permitting to me to keep in my mind important information!

thanks guys
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medal 5000
6 years 260 days ago
Good Morning. I'm brazilian.
I also have many doubts about the tire, because I always want to use the hard or medium, because I have the impression that the rider runs better, and does not heat so fast.
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