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Nadiya Holliday
6 years 73 days ago

Hi,

Yesterday we had an Italian race at our league. We had problems about tyres. It stopped raining 20 mins. before the race and never rained again. 15 mins before the race water level was 0.5mm and we saw the intermediate tires are faster about 3 secs. at training. So we made our strategy starting with inters. and fueled for this. When the race started we saw that: none of us has intermediate tyres. Water level was 0.4 mm. We have random tyres: some of us has SS, S and M... It was terrible moment, why did this happen? Is it possible that: When weather isn't raining, game don't let us choose inters. even track is wet?

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Frank Thomas Moderator
6 years 72 days ago

Usually the game allows to use Inters if it's not raining, but it falls back to the 2nd advanced option 'If it stops raining for X laps' for the start, so Inters have to be setup there, too. It's not a guarantee its working though as the game is known to (seemingly) randomly put on other tyres when weather is involved, but usually it works in 90%+ of cases.

Frank Thomas Moderator
6 years 72 days ago

Usually the game allows to use Inters if it's not raining, but it falls back to the 2nd advanced option 'If it stops raining for X laps' for the start, so Inters have to be setup there, too. It's not a guarantee its working though as the game is known to (seemingly) randomly put on other tyres when weather is involved, but usually it works in 90%+ of cases.

Nadiya Holliday
6 years 72 days ago

Frank

Usually the game allows to use Inters if it's not raining, but it falls back to the 2nd advanced option 'If it stops raining for X laps' for the start, so Inters have to be setup there, too. It's not a guarantee its working though as the game is known to (seemingly) randomly put on other tyres when weather is involved, but usually it works in 90%+ of cases.

It would be work but there is another problem: if rain starts&stops during the race, i prefer dry tyres so i have to select dry tyres at “if rain stops” menu. If i do like you said, i will have inters at dry track? This is a problem.

Frank Thomas Moderator
6 years 72 days ago

Yes, that's technically true. But in most cases we currently only want to force those Intermediates for the first stint, even though it stopped raining before the start, because of the track drying so slowly. So if it starts to rain during the race with any actual water building up (again) then there's a very good chance the track won't dry completely at all even with 100% races anyway, so Intermediates are not a bad bet at all.

Nadiya Holliday
6 years 72 days ago

I did the same thing. Selected inters on my main strategy but game started me with meds (i guess it selected "if rain stops use... tyres" option at advanced tactics) but this is the problem. It didn't start raining at race, why it selected meds? If i select inters at advanced strategy "if rain stops use... tyres" this is another problem. While racing if it starts and stops raining, it will choose inters not meds or softs. Mods should check this situation.

Ken Proost
6 years 72 days ago

and als turn off the auto pitstop! I anuulated the first time but I had to do it evert lap again :( also I selected inters and he puttend mediums very annoying problem pls fix it

Frank Thomas Moderator
6 years 72 days ago (edited 6 years 72 days ago)

Because if you select Intermediates or Wets in main strategy the game assumes the manager made that setup during rain conditions (and/or that manager expected those to continue into the race). As it isn't raining anymore the game chooses the 'If rain stops use... tyre' as the starting tyre as it now assumes the conditions aren't what expected anymore and the tyre set there is the one to use in case it's not raining anymore and since 'after X laps' is not a valid measure of time before the race even started it ignores that.
The same if the setup uses dry tyres in main and it starts raining, the game assumes the manager made the setup during dry conditions and expected the conditions to remain as such, wrongly as it turned out, and thus the game starts you using the option 'If it's raining...'. As any rain tyre usually is better than any dry tyre in rain it ignores the X mm value.

As said, in the past that worked pretty well except the weather really changed during the few minutes of lock down. But not anymore due to the way slowed down water level changes, although the way it is now it doesn't matter that much because even after rain stopped it's still Intermediates for the next 1-2 hours.

William Ho
6 years 72 days ago

I set up a tyre strategy and saved. Logged out, logged in to find that the strategy displayed is different. I clicked in to check, but then it was the same as intended. Is it just a visual thing?

Example:
11 11 23 saved changes to
10 10 23

after logging in, it shows
10 10 23 but after clicking in to change, shows
11 11 23

So what's going on here? (did not happen before update)

Nadiya Holliday
6 years 72 days ago

Frank

Because if you select Intermediates or Wets in main strategy the game assumes the manager made that setup during rain conditions (and/or that manager expected those to continue into the race). As it isn't raining anymore the game chooses the 'If rain stops use... tyre' as the starting tyre as it now assumes the conditions aren't what expected anymore and the tyre set there is the one to use in case it's not raining anymore and since 'after X laps' is not a valid measure of time before the race even started it ignores that.
The same if the setup uses dry tyres in main and it starts raining, the game assumes the manager made the setup during dry conditions and expected the conditions to remain as such, wrongly as it turned out, and thus the game starts you using the option 'If it's raining...'. As any rain tyre usually is better than any dry tyre in rain it ignores the X mm value.

As said, in the past that worked pretty well except the weather really changed during the few minutes of lock down. But not anymore due to the way slowed down water level changes, although the way it is now it doesn't matter that much because even after rain stopped it's still Intermediates for the next 1-2 hours.

Ok, that make sense. When you made a tactic and stay offline: if the rain starts and stops again during the race; there would be about 6-7 pitsopts. And about your said at last sentence: yes you are right inters. perform well at that situations but it is a bit important selecting fuel load. Still need to upgrade.

Thanks mate i learned a lot.

Ashton Hennessy
6 years 71 days ago

Our league has a similar problem today and evn pit stops during the race had been overuled and cars were stuck back on drys even when manually selected inters. 1 team even wasnt allowed to pit. Needs addressing

Stefano D
6 years 71 days ago

yes,this happens when it rains little and becomes a problem

Ivan Mendoza
6 years 71 days ago

+1, i chose intermediate tires for the first stint and the option that if it rained 0.0mm put intermediate tires.
then there was no other option to start than intermediate tires because the track had 0.8mm of water.

Nadiya Holliday
6 years 71 days ago

Ivan

+1, i chose intermediate tires for the first stint and the option that if it rained 0.0mm put intermediate tires.
then there was no other option to start than intermediate tires because the track had 0.8mm of water.

You are right mate but think about that: what if rain starts and stops again during the race? When it starts, it will use inters or wets(which do you choose at:if rain starts... option). And when it stops it will choose inters(because you choose inters at: if rain stops.. option). Not dry tyres. This is a problem.

Andre Rodrigues
6 years 71 days ago

The setup for raining condition could be better.

Ashton Hennessy
6 years 70 days ago

William Ho the reason the lap count changes is down to fuel levels. If planning for a race whilst offline you will needs slightly more fuel rather than minimum required

Ivan Mendoza
6 years 70 days ago

Ali

Ivan

+1, i chose intermediate tires for the first stint and the option that if it rained 0.0mm put intermediate tires.
then there was no other option to start than intermediate tires because the track had 0.8mm of water.

You are right mate but think about that: what if rain starts and stops again during the race? When it starts, it will use inters or wets(which do you choose at:if rain starts... option). And when it stops it will choose inters(because you choose inters at: if rain stops.. option). Not dry tyres. This is a problem.

You said it yourself: "DURING THE RACE"

If stops raining "by x laps"(always x=11 in my case) ... option.

When the race has not started yet, each driver must follow the strategy established by me.

That option is only to follow if I dont connect to the race.

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