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medal 5190
12 years 67 days ago
After the incident caused by Grosjean in SPA, he was issued a race ban.
Reason for it was endangering lives with dangerous driving.
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medal 5000
12 years 67 days ago
I know this is going to be controversial but I don't think Lewis was entirely innocent. He could have backed out of the move as he was going into an ever decreasing gap. Still I support Grosjean's ban and I hope he learns. Alonso could have been killed if he had been just 1-2 feet left.
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medal 5190
12 years 67 days ago
I disagree with Hamilton being at fault, Hamilton had no room to move, he could of braked but would of risked putting someone into the back of him.
Grosjean quite litterally moved to the point where Hamilton had no direction and Hamilton made the correct call in trusting a track rival in driving safe. He was not at wrong.

Yes Alonso could of been killed.
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medal 5000
12 years 67 days ago
Fair point. It may have been the angle I was watching because his left front was ahead of Grosjean's rear so he couldn't back out of it.
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medal 5000
12 years 65 days ago
I agree with Jack. Hamilton could have moved to the right, on the grass. But he knew he would lose ground and, given his crappy car in comparison with Jenson's latest RW, he wouldn't stand a chance to recover. So, instead, he gambled, kept his line and didn't care, in fat he tapped Grosjean from behind to make him run wide. Of course, things turned bad in the end. I think Hamilton said "if you did this to me, I do yhis to you". I know I will attract a lot of critics upon me, but that's how I saw it. Hamilton was already pissed off he was already way off Button's pace and knew at the point he was going to lose a lot of ground had he gone on the grass. He didn't wanted to. That's how I see it. He didn't want that big crash to happen, he just wanted to tap Grosjean.
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medal 5190
12 years 65 days ago
"Alin
I agree with Jack. Hamilton could have moved to the right, on the grass. But he knew he would lose ground and, given his crappy car in comparison with Jenson's latest RW, he wouldn't stand a chance to recover. So, instead, he gambled, kept his line and didn't care, in fat he tapped Grosjean from behind to make him run wide. Of course, things turned bad in the end. I think Hamilton said "if you did this to me, I do yhis to you". I know I will attract a lot of critics upon me, but that's how I saw it. Hamilton was already pissed off he was already way off Button's pace and knew at the point he was going to lose a lot of ground had he gone on the grass. He didn't wanted to. That's how I see it. He didn't want that big crash to happen, he just wanted to tap Grosjean.

He shouldn't go right cause running along grass next to a barrier could of sent hamilton into a very deadly spin, and take out far more drivers. Hamilton was nowhere in the wrong. Grosjean was, he has been suspended. Hamilton didn't move, grosjean moved across and cause of the direction of spin from  those tire moves, when hooking tires like that, you get the hook and reel effect. If that's how you saw it Alin, you very clearly have a narrow mind in f1.
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medal 5000
12 years 65 days ago
"Alin
I agree with Jack. Hamilton could have moved to the right, on the grass. But he knew he would lose ground and, given his crappy car in comparison with Jenson's latest RW, he wouldn't stand a chance to recover. So, instead, he gambled, kept his line and didn't care, in fat he tapped Grosjean from behind to make him run wide. Of course, things turned bad in the end. I think Hamilton said "if you did this to me, I do yhis to you". I know I will attract a lot of critics upon me, but that's how I saw it. Hamilton was already pissed off he was already way off Button's pace and knew at the point he was going to lose a lot of ground had he gone on the grass. He didn't wanted to. That's how I see it. He didn't want that big crash to happen, he just wanted to tap Grosjean.


Wow Hamilton thought of all that within a 1 second gap :O RG put LH in an every decreasing space I think that the 1 Race Ban was over the top reaction however the FIA have to been to do something. This will just open up the debate into closed cockpits.
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medal 5000
12 years 65 days ago
Something needs to be done to sort out the crappier driving standards we're getting. The ban was not just to punish Grosjean it was a message to the other drivers to sort out their act (Maldonado and co!)
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medal 5000
12 years 65 days ago
"Jack
Something needs to be done to sort out the crappier driving standards we're getting. The ban was not just to punish Grosjean it was a message to the other drivers to sort out their act (Maldonado and co!)


Ok so ban Maldonado for his poor standards (he has been given grid pens but i dont think that is enough). If you look at Grosjean all this season does he really need a one race ban? Has Maldonado been involved in worse incidents imo yes. But looking at the start for quite a few times now, I would say that RG would have gone over the top of Alonso even if LH wasnt there.
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medal 5000
12 years 64 days ago
Common, those things happen. Grosjean isn't the only one who tangled with others at the start.
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medal 5000
12 years 64 days ago
"Alin
Common, those things happen. Grosjean isn't the only one who tangled with others at the start.

True. But i think its a bit too far by the FIA
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medal 5000
12 years 63 days ago
Not being funny, but Maldonado has done far worse and not been given a penalty as harsh. Maldonado turned in  on Perez, thats intentional. He also did the same to Hamilton last year. Both of these incidents were easily avoidable as it was practice and was created intentionally by Maldonado. Grosjeans incident happened in a race, where adrenelin is pumping, and everything happens quickly. I know they have to have good spacial awareness, but i feel that the  ban is only because of the face that Alonso could have had his head hit. Cars have jumped up at other races, nopthing was done because the air born cars have not landed near another car. It was a freak accident, that if the crash happened again, the car might not have become airborn
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medal 5000
12 years 63 days ago
"Neil
Not being funny, but Maldonado has done far worse and not been given a penalty as harsh. Maldonado turned in  on Perez, thats intentional. He also did the same to Hamilton last year. Both of these incidents were easily avoidable as it was practice and was created intentionally by Maldonado. Grosjeans incident happened in a race, where adrenelin is pumping, and everything happens quickly. I know they have to have good spacial awareness, but i feel that the  ban is only because of the face that Alonso could have had his head hit. Cars have jumped up at other races, nopthing was done because the air born cars have not landed near another car. It was a freak accident, that if the crash happened again, the car might not have become airborn


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medal 5000
12 years 62 days ago
In a few years when a spectator dies after getting his by a stray golf ball at a Major, it will be requested that all golf players and the crowd will have to wear a helmet.

Oh wait, no it won't. That would be a freak accident and so would this. There's no need for anything drastic to happen.
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medal 5190
12 years 61 days ago
Grosjean was given a one race ban post-race (the first driver to be banned since Michael Schumacher in 1994),[32] as well as a fine of €50,000, with the FIA saying in a statement "The stewards regard this incident as an extremely serious breach of the regulations, which had the potential to cause injury to others. It eliminated leading championship contenders from the race. The stewards note [that] the team conceded the action was an extremely serious mistake and an error of judgement. Neither the team nor the driver made any submission in mitigation of penalty."

Hence Grosjean was reckless, he or his team didn't fight against the penalties and finally, he didn't deny that he was dangerous. Grosjean has had quite a few first corner incidents this season. This will make him learn to take it easy on starting.
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medal 5000
12 years 54 days ago
Looks like he's back
let's see who wins in the battle of Grosjean vs Maldonado in 'the fight to kill F1's drivers' :|
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medal 5000
12 years 52 days ago
I think its a bit harsh to say Grosjean Vs Maldonado, Grosjean hasnt really had many problems, plus Maldonado isnt a rookie, where Grosjean is
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medal 5000
12 years 51 days ago
"Neil
I think its a bit harsh to say Grosjean Vs Maldonado, Grosjean hasnt really had many problems, plus Maldonado isnt a rookie, where Grosjean is

Grosjean isnt a rookie. He did however do half a season in F1 before.....
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medal 5000
12 years 51 days ago
Yeah im sure Maldonado will have had only like 10 or so more races that Grosjean
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medal 5000
12 years 51 days ago
well i dont know if you can count him as settled in then, he last raced before this season 6 or 7 races in 2009
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