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Ariel Pastene
12 years 156 days ago

While my tyres are melting, I'd adjust refuel to 15 lts. Surprisingly my mecs put 37 and 53 lts. It deserves a very big "WTF?"

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Andrew Wiseman
12 years 156 days ago

Which driver and which lap (even roughly)? It'd also help normally if you say which race but I've worked out you mean race 157. Thanks.

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Ariel Pastene
12 years 155 days ago

Most of them, early laps. I heard someone setting 5 lt, and exiting pits with 30 or so.
At least mine were adjusting it pitstop by pitstop.

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Jesse Nieminen
12 years 155 days ago

I had the exact same problem in race ID 4; driver ID's 21664 and 8312 constantly got the wrong amount of fuel basically every pitstop. At the beginning I got refueled the amount I started the race with despite changing the values to something different in all the fields in the strategy box. Then after a few stops it randomly changed to 27L which I had not once put anywhere. On laps 15 or 16 for both drivers I only got refueled 4L for both and ran out of fuel. I did have a timeout with my connection just before the stop so maybe that has something to do with it, but seems like the refueling was pretty random for most of the race.

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Andrew Wiseman
12 years 154 days ago

Thanks for the detail Jesse. From what I can see it looks like you selected "Unschedued Stop" but the fuel amount in the "Next Stop" row was set at zero. Did you change all of the "scheduled" stint rows, select "Unscheduled stop" and then not touch the fuel value on the bottom row?

It turns out that your cars only filled up at all in their first stop - to 58 litres. No more fuel was put in the cars at all. So when you say that your car got filled to 27L and then 4L, actually that's just the amount of fuel that was left in the tank when they pitted. Does the chart you can see here give you the impression that any fuel was actually added at the pitstops? - igpmanager.com/play/?url=race-result/4/21664 If so, that's a bug.

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Andrew Wiseman
12 years 154 days ago

Ariel, assuming it really was race 157, and your drivers were 11270 and 11990 i.e.

http://igpmanager.com/play/?url=race-result/157/11270
http://igpmanager.com/play/?url=race-result/157/11990

...then the only amounts I can see your cars being topped up to is 15L, 16L and 17L, I cant see any record of any more than that. Do you see fuel values higher than this on the 2 pages I just quoted? (Only you can see the fuel values there).

If that info looks fine, I wonder what was going wrong. If the fuel readout in the viewer was saying you had been filled to 53L then did you notice it doing anything else strange, for example did the 53L drop to 0 within a few laps, or not?

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Ariel Pastene
12 years 152 days ago

"Andrew

...then the only amounts I can see your cars being topped up to is 15L, 16L and 17L, I cant see any record of any more than that. Do you see fuel values higher than this on the 2 pages I just quoted? (Only you can see the fuel values there).

No, I don't see values higher than those.

If that info looks fine, I wonder what was going wrong. If the fuel readout in the viewer was saying you had been filled to 53L then did you notice it doing anything else strange, for example did the 53L drop to 0 within a few laps, or not?

No, the fuel consumption was normal, or pretty close to normal.

But I was analysing that and I have an explanation that seems to be about right.
The "random" values that appeared was in fact the amount that was left in the tank. I thought the pit crew were filling the tank, while the truth was they didn't, as I ask to fill less lts. Once the left liters was below of the amount I ask to fill, they put what I'd ordered to.

At least this explains the 37 and 53 lts that I labeled as "random".

It turns out that your cars only filled up at all in their first stop - to 58 litres. No more fuel was put in the cars at all. So when you say that your car got filled to 27L and then 4L, actually that's just the amount of fuel that was left in the tank when they pitted.

That was the clue I missed.

Thanks for your help.

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Jesse Nieminen
12 years 151 days ago

This happened again in race ID 13, both of my drivers got refueled the amount they started with.

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Jesse Nieminen
12 years 151 days ago

"Andrew

Thanks for the detail Jesse. From what I can see it looks like you selected "Unschedued Stop" but the fuel amount in the "Next Stop" row was set at zero. Did you change all of the "scheduled" stint rows, select "Unscheduled stop" and then not touch the fuel value on the bottom row?

It turns out that your cars only filled up at all in their first stop - to 58 litres. No more fuel was put in the cars at all. So when you say that your car got filled to 27L and then 4L, actually that's just the amount of fuel that was left in the tank when they pitted. Does the chart you can see here give you the impression that any fuel was actually added at the pitstops? - igpmanager.com/play/?url=race-result/4/21664 If so, that's a bug.

Hmm that's weird, the amount displayed in the viewer definitely switched to 16L and 15L for two stops that were consecutive, I also had chosen the same amount of fuel for both the unscheduled stop and the normal stop boxes every time iirc. After the short timeout I had it did show "0L" for all the normal stop boxes(they all became accessable even though I had used the first stint one already), I think the suggested tires were switched to softs as well.

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