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Tony Maloney medal 5000
5 years 218 days ago
hi. very noob question haha. if a manager wants to leave elite and join pro, how do they do that? had a lower level member join elite and he couldn’t work out what to do. i obviously couldn’t test it myself ☺️
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Graeme Osborn medal 5000
5 years 218 days ago
Send a message to the email on the help side of things  with the teams names and they will arrange it for you. 
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Tony Maloney medal 5000
5 years 217 days ago
Thanks Graeme.  That’s the only way?  That’s very cumbersome!
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Kevin Taylor medal 5000
5 years 217 days ago
Hi Tony.
Yes, that's the best way because allowing managers to choose to join a lower tier has a big downside. There are a minority of people out there who just like winning regardless of how they do it. If managers were allowed to choose their tier you would end up with some managers staying in lower tiers and dominating the season which is very demoralising for the rest of the managers who play fair.
By making it a Support decision this limits it to cases where there is a justifiable reason.
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Memo Leiva medal 5000
5 years 217 days ago

Kevin
Hi Tony.
Yes, that's the best way because allowing managers to choose to join a lower tier has a big downside. There are a minority of people out there who just like winning regardless of how they do it. If managers were allowed to choose their tier you would end up with some managers staying in lower tiers and dominating the season which is very demoralising for the rest of the managers who play fair.
By making it a Support decision this limits it to cases where there is a justifiable reason.


That makes sense.


However, I've seen Elite managers that are about to get relegated to pro join another league where they only have to finish top 20 to stay in pro....then they go back to the league they came from having avoided relegation. 

What would be a "justifiable" reason? 
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Leo Yeo medal 5421
5 years 217 days ago
A justifiable reason would be, the manager in elite is by themselves and wants to actually compete and race, this has happened in one of my leagues very recently.

Maybe the demotee is a host who wants to make more room in elite for another more active player. Maybe it's a player and not a host and both joining player and demotee agree it's the best option.

Let's say an elite player wants to join a league, but elite is full, pro on the other hand has 1 or more spots. If they really want to play in that league, but they know all the elites are active, so there wont be space throughout the whole season, a viable option would be to demote themselves to pro in another league to then be able to join their preferred league. Win-win for the player and the league (league will be more full).

And anyway, even if an elite player tries to hog championships in pro, usually it won't last long in a good league because as pro progresses and improves, winning champs will become harder and harder. Eventually the tier will outpace the tier-hopper and all will be good. Not to mention it's pretty obvious when a player does it on purpose and easy to message or kick them when it happens.

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Memo Leiva medal 5000
5 years 217 days ago
@R360;  I'll go along with the ending up by yourself in a tier-scenario. You're a new player, haven't read any guides or know they even exist to grasp the basics of the game. Makes sense. 

Although the rest of circumstances you mentioned are challenging, they are not detrimental to the game and can easily be abused.  I'm not saying a host shouldn't go out their way to make room for a new player....I am saying these are circumstances every league deals with here. 
Imo, any moves a host chooses to make regardless of circumstances is entirely up to their discretion and shouldn't required Igp's technical involvement. That said, there are some very legit cases, some already outlined by iGp. 
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Tony Maloney medal 5000
5 years 217 days ago
very strange that people stay in a lower league to win, lol, good on them.  they go down again once they have been promoted?

my issue is that, in my league of you are level 10-11 you will just have no chance, and there are probably higher players in pro.  i would ideally like to save the spot for a higher level player that may join in future.

i could kick them but really id prefer them to goto pro.  anyways i can email :)
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Graeme Osborn medal 5000
5 years 217 days ago
When i have done it they game gurus were really good with it. We had a guy who joined us and he was a level 10 and did the last couple of races of the season and was blown away compared to his old league. One email and it was all sorted. He still hasn't won or even gotten points in our Pro's. He is so grateful that we could get him moved down. He has messaged me for hints and tips as no one would help in his old league. It's better to have the manager happy and work with them then to just leave them going round and not getting anywhere. Im sure they guys will take on ever case as they come in and as long as everyone is happy with it it will all go ahead.
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Leo Yeo medal 5421
5 years 217 days ago
Memo
Although the rest of circumstances you mentioned are challenging, they are not detrimental to the game...
Imo, any moves a host chooses to make regardless of circumstances is entirely up to their discretion and shouldn't required Igp's technical involvement.

I think I misunderstood your first comment; I thought you were asking for cases where demoting a player would be justifiable, not cases where iGP should get involved... sorry.
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Memo Leiva medal 5000
5 years 217 days ago

R360
Memo
Although the rest of circumstances you mentioned are challenging, they are not detrimental to the game...
Imo, any moves a host chooses to make regardless of circumstances is entirely up to their discretion and shouldn't required Igp's technical involvement.

I think I misunderstood your first comment; I thought you were asking for cases where demoting a player would be justifiable, not cases where iGP should get involved... sorry.


Hey, no harm done. Glad we're on the same page.

I still don't quite understand why league hosts don't have full technical control of their leagues. It's disheartening to read managers frustrations when jumping to a higher tier. I know there's a level cap, but there should also be a  minimum level  relative to the average level of the tier they're being promoted to as well.  


At times I feel they should just re-write the game rather than waiting for the original game's coding to conflict with the updated ones. But then I realize just how much of an undertaking that would be and come to the conclusion that even if I knew how to, that wouldn't make it to my top 10 options. 

I like that issues are getting worked on progressively and Vet managers are so willing to lend a hand to new managers. I know I've benefited a great deal from that.  So thanks to all of you. 
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Graeme Osborn medal 5000
5 years 216 days ago
We have just had it happen in our league just today!! A new manager has joined us and he is in our Elite Tier. Problem is he is only a Level 8!! Most of our Rookies have higher stats than this manager. My question is how has a level 8 manager gotten to Elites??
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Leo Yeo medal 5421
5 years 216 days ago
He moved up to elite in an easy league, probably one completely inactive excluding him,
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Graeme Osborn medal 5000
5 years 216 days ago
Yeah i gathered that but even in an easy league you would go past level 8 by the time you got to Elites. Most of our guys in the Rookies have past that! It wasnt a real question as such as i did know the answer its just how can it really happen though. It shows how many leagues are out there that do zero!!
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Natausha Rodriguez medal 5000
5 years 215 days ago
If your competition isn't developing their cars and/or drivers, there isn't much DPs to go around for the lesser level managers. 

On the other hand, if I am aware that my league has gone dormant(like your lvl 8 friend might have done), I would look for the closest power house league I could find to benefit from their XPs and improve my team. 

This game isn't your most user friendly to begin with, coupled that with players that come to iGP with the mentality that it's like any other racing game with a few different things here and there. The result is managers not knowing what question to ask or even knowing they have resources to access guidance. I haven't been playing this game for long, but even I roll my eyes at some of the questions being asked some times by new and in some cases not so new managers.

I see most leagues promoting their top drivers and/or a mini version of their rules on the chat wall's header... Imo, league's hosts should in addition post a variety of hints and suggestion to help managers. I'll go as far as suggesting  iGP should place similar statements on the game's header. 

Sorry if I went off topic... 
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Graeme Osborn medal 5000
5 years 215 days ago
Yep agree 100% with what you said. I have a run down on the games basic settings and help that all the managers who join our rookie league can get. I always tell them that there is help available and we have some very experienced teams and managers that are also willing to help. People don't enjoy the game is they cant even get a basic start to it!
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