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Does booing mean you don't understand f1 ?

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medal 5000
11 years 55 days ago
''Three-time champion Niki Lauda has labelled fans that booed Sebastian Vettel after his victory in Singapore as ridiculous and said they do not understand Formula One.''
Do you agree with him ?

IMO and personal feelings about vettel aside, I think fans should be able to boo whoever and whatever they want. They did pay good money to be there in the first place.


read full article here http://www.espn.co.uk/singapore/motorsport/story/126407.html
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medal 5000
11 years 55 days ago
Booing creates an attitude similar to Football Chants, Violence etc. It's a very poor feature of sports and to have it in F1, a sport which has never had this before ruins what respect there is.
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medal 5000
11 years 55 days ago
F1 openly admit that they are aiming for the mass market (fan boys)

This is the result of the changes.
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medal 5000
11 years 55 days ago (edited 11 years 54 days ago)
Perhaps Vettel's management, who are being paid vast sums of money, should run some sort of PR campaign so that people can see that he is a nice guy
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medal 5211
11 years 55 days ago
I don't know about "don't understand," but I do think that maybe they're missing the bigger picture. There's so much going on that it's hard not to find something cool beyond who's #1 on the World Drivers Championship list. This is opinion, I suppose, but I think that if you're booing someone because they win, it's because you don't really care about the sport as a whole and that you just care about the driver or team you wanted to see win.

Right now besides Vettel, there's an intense battle going on for the positions right behind him. And personally, I feel the mid and bottom field teams are rife with interesting happenings but no one seems to notice. I'm always dying to see when Caterham or Marussia might score their first point in the teams' respective histories, and I've really been enjoying the Sauber/Force India/Wiliams/Torro Roso midfield battle over the last two years. And honestly? I get a kick watching Vettel win because it's got that whole, "How long until someone break's this kid's full combo?" vibe going on.

There are a lot of incredible storylines in Formula One besides the championships. Some people just don't notice them because they've got a favorite team or driver they want to root for above all else. That's fine, too, but don't let it ruin your enjoyment of the sport. I'm a big fan of Williams and I haven't let their slump (read: crippling failure) get me down.
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medal 5000
11 years 55 days ago
Lewis Hamilton
‘So, if I could choose an era, I would love to have driven in  Senna’s time, 1988, 1989. The cars were dangerous then. When I went around Silverstone in his car, I went flat-out and my head felt so exposed. I thought to myself, “Jeez ...those guys”.

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medal 5000
11 years 54 days ago
¿who is vettel? :S

I think in this F1 time,There should be a championship for technologic design, and prize money for winning bets.

I do not watch F1


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medal 5000
11 years 54 days ago
I think the only place for booing is at a pantomime at Christmas - where we are all allowed to act like children!
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medal 5000
11 years 53 days ago
"Booing" ? Is it a German word?
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medal 5000
11 years 53 days ago
"Mike
"Booing" ? Is it a German word?

haha
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medal 5000
11 years 53 days ago
its harsh because he has just won a grand prix. and people who say he only wins because the red bull is the best car senna had the best car when he won his championships, the point of f1 is man and machine working together. 
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medal 5000
11 years 53 days ago
"Ciaran
its harsh because he has just won a grand prix. and people who say he only wins because the red bull is the best car senna had the best car when he won his championships, the point of f1 is man and machine working together. 

then it must be something about him that makes people hate him... 
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medal 5000
11 years 53 days ago
"Bradley
Booing creates an attitude similar to Football Chants, Violence etc. It's a very poor feature of sports and to have it in F1, a sport which has never had this before ruins what respect there is.


Take at look at the start of the 1976 race at Brands Hatch. (or re-start at least) ;-) Also probably many races in Italy where the Ferrari fans have always been a little ott.
This goes back to his run ins with Webber. Turkey and Multi 21 etc. People don't like his attitude or his sportsmanship and Webber is a popular charachter. The booing, taken a bit out of proportion i think. it's not all that nice, but nobody seemed to mind the massive cheer that went up at Silverstone when his gearbox went? That's along the same vien.
People are there to enjoy a sport and take part in some sence, cheer, applaude, boo. They're involved, they're paying customers and they're not doing anything derogatory.
Just people showing a bit of passion in the sport they like, no harm in that. But to suggest it's never happened before is a little propostrous.

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medal 5000
11 years 53 days ago (edited 11 years 53 days ago)
"Ciaran
its harsh because he has just won a grand prix. and people who say he only wins because the red bull is the best car senna had the best car when he won his championships, the point of f1 is man and machine working together. 


Rubbish, total rubbish !!!!

Vettel's attitude stinks and I wouldn't p**s on him if he was on fire.. That is what most think.

You don't screw over one of the nicest blokes in F1 (Webber.) You just don't, esp when he is such a fan fav...

It's also funny how it's always Webber with the issues and very very rarely Vettels car. Vettel also had the 1st updates but only after Webber had tested them in free practice 1.. Senna had class..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smW9yo-P_zk

Also with Senna. He could walk in to any team and push the car above 100% and put them further up the grid.. You think Vettel could walk in to Ferrari without Newey & co and put them on the top step ??? Not a chance.


Eddie Irvine "Who cares who wins in a Newey car. It's the ones who beat that car who does the best job."

Vettel is way to overated and I wouldn't put him in the top 20 drivers of all time and yet he is mentioned in the same breath as Senna now.. That is a joke on it's own !!!!

Modern F1 is for 1 type of people now.. Fan boys who know very little about F1 and watch for the "Push to pass" overtakes!
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medal 5000
11 years 53 days ago (edited 11 years 53 days ago)
Vettel / Hamilton / Kimi / Alonso are all the same in interviews -

Pre race with Brundel - "So what are your chances today and what do you expect?"

The drivers - "Well, I've got to get a clean start and make it in to T1 first and ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" Boring, dull and generic...



Button with the same question. "My chances are like Eddie Jordans shirts." :D

Webber with the same question. "Crap mate.Nahh there not to bad, we'll see what we can do and have some fun out there." :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOIh4mpg0ms
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medal 5000
11 years 53 days ago
"Rob

+1000000
Thats all true, Its a faking joke the people puts Vettel in top10 drivers of all time, and Alonso or Mansell behind him, and also comparing Vettel with Senna ... ridiculos, is like comparing a Seat 600 with a Lamborghini Reventon ...
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medal 6398
11 years 52 days ago
Not sure I'll ever be able to forgive you all for making me defend Vettel. ;-)

Given the choice of going down the pub with Vettel or Webber it would be Mark I'd be buying beers for, no contest, but I believe Vettel is the better driver of the 2 and maybe not the best but certainly one of the most talented on the current grid. He has the youthful aggression and competitiveness which some other drivers seem to lack.  It makes him unpopular but there haven't been that many drivers popular with everyone who have done so well in the past. The successful drivers tend to be like marmite.

Was Senna really that good or has he been over-hyped by the media? I wonder how many people actually saw him race and how many are just repeating what they've heard.

Comparing drivers from different eras is pointless imo, the cars have evolved so much it's like comparing Lester Piggott with Usain Bolt
(though that's a race I'd pay to see!)
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medal 5000
11 years 52 days ago
"I
Not sure I'll ever be able to forgive you all for making me defend Vettel. ;-)

Given the choice of going down the pub with Vettel or Webber it would be Mark I'd be buying beers for, no contest, but I believe Vettel is the better driver of the 2 and maybe not the best but certainly one of the most talented on the current grid. He has the youthful aggression and competitiveness which some other drivers seem to lack.  It makes him unpopular but there haven't been that many drivers popular with everyone who have done so well in the past. The successful drivers tend to be like marmite.

Was Senna really that good or has he been over-hyped by the media? I wonder how many people actually saw him race and how many are just repeating what they've heard.

Comparing drivers from different eras is pointless imo, the cars have evolved so much it's like comparing Lester Piggott with Usain Bolt
(though that's a race I'd pay to see!)

you are forgiven for defending vettel :D
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medal 5000
11 years 52 days ago (edited 11 years 52 days ago)
Yes. Senna was THAT DAM GOOD...

It has come from Mika Häkkinen himself.. Also many many many other drivers who was with him in his time in F1 and Pre F1.. I don't see any of the current crop saying that Vettel is to good. They always say that his car is to good.. Not many rate him.
Even Alonso has publicly said that he is overated.

Another quote(ish) from Eddie Irvine. "When you lost .200 in a lap. You had no idea where you was losing it. You didn't have someone telling you which corner you was losing it on.. So you needed something special back then. Now you get out of a car and it's on some paper and can easily sort it out."

Errr. Also. Check pre F1 and you'll see how good he was. He did win races yes, but he wasn't the best jrn and was beaten frequently by Paul di Resta. ;)

I take it with what you are saying that you are to young to remember Senna actually racing?

All you need to search for is Senna at Donington when he had the 5th fastest car and look at the only proper drivers track on the rosta and see how many wins he made there, look at the victories against the far far better Williams and countless other times he had a car that wasn't the best and won with it.. Simple.

End of and PLEASE stop defending Vettel until he's done it with at least 1 other teams and without Newey.. Until then, there is ZERO defence.


http://youtu.be/TaSwdxwK-4M?t=1m13s


Murray Walker who knows more about F1 than everyone here combined has put Senna No 1 of all time and didn't put Vettel in his top 15.
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medal 5000
11 years 49 days ago (edited 11 years 49 days ago)
Just reading the September issue of Motor Sport....

Andrew Frankel had the following to say about Mr Vettel....

"We once clutched this Monty Python loving , Beatles grooving, full English consuming Anglophile to our bosoms. But then came Malaysia & in an instant everything changed. In fact even that's not true. What put him beyond the pale, was his statement that, put in that position again, he would do the same.

In our eyes, that was Vettel's Rubicon moment"
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