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Zero points & final standing?

Hi everyone, How are the placements and final standings evaluated between all the players who score zero points. I know obviously the higher you are placed the better in a race, for example finishing 11th as to 19th. But I'm just wondering is there any other way that it's evaluated. Main reason I ask is because I have placed reasonably ok in my last two races and I thought I would have rose up in the standings but I didn't. So just out of interest I compared all of my results with a friend of mine who is 3 places higher than me. So we are 12 races in with both of us having scored zero points and all my placements add up to 267, while his add up to 269. So shouldn't I be above him, or is there some other way it's evaluated. Tnx in advance for the info on this.

@Kevin... I get you now, sorry it did confuse me a little earlier when I checked, but yeah that's pretty straightforward. Maybe a seperate points system like the one that's currently used from 1-10 but with a greater range 11-32 might make it a lot more interesting and probably fairer I think. Because you could have a guy who came 11th in one race and 25th for all the others and he would be ahead of a guy who came 12th in every race at the end of the season. If I am correctly thinking in line with your previous reply! 

For example, you could have a primary scoring system that's used to determine the top 10 players and their points, just like it is now, without any change so as to keep it in line with real life F1 scoring. Then you could incorporate a secondary scoring system that only determines the placements for 11-32. The secondary scoring could be ghost or invisible scoring so as not to interfere with or confuse any of the players but just outline in the rules and regulations how it works. So here's the idea... The secondary/hidden scoring works by allocating points to every driver from 1-32. First place gets 32 points, second 31 points, third 30 points and so on right up until 32nd place getting only one point. Although players from 1-10 in the final standings are scored in this system they are excluded from the standings in the secondary system as this is only relevant for placements from 11-32 and the top ten players will be still included in the primary scoring system just like what we have now.

I think this would add another dimension to the challenges and objectives for what is the majority of the players who will fall outside the top ten every season. Each player would have to fight for points and their results and final standings would be based on how well they scored over an entire season rather than how well they performed in one race, which is how it is determined now. Let me know what you think, would love to hear your views and feedback on this idea.

I think in a tie break situation in this particular system, whichever team was leading prior to the tie is the one that stays on top. This may be the fairest solution. What really matters would be the final placement at the end of the season, so in the unlikely event that teams are tied after the final race I guess you could apply the same rule. But honestly I think this situation would be pretty rare and most players would feel that they earned their places through consistency throughout the entire season. Probably not on the devs priority list but definitely something worth considering I think. ?

@Frank Thomas... Yeah this is a good alternative as the most points scored from 22 x 11th places would only amount to 0.484 which being less than a whole point would prevent anyone from mistakingly leapfrogging the guy in tenth place who may only have one point in the final standings. ?

I thought about this a little more Frank and you could use non-integer values but I think the scoring would have to go all the way up to 1st place. Reason for this is, if for example a player who had been scoring points outside the top 10 suddenly starts scoring points in a few races within the top 10 they would need to have those points retained on their scoring record in the event they fall out of the top 10 by the end of the season. Otherwise they would fall farther behind (after falling outside the top 10) if they had no points to show for while scoring in top 10. I think all it would take is a behind the scenes scoring system from 1st to 32nd that just alters the positions of the drivers from 11th to 32nd on the primary scoring system. Then if they used the non-integer values like you suggested they could make the secondary scoring points for all places below 10th visible on tthe leaderboards, without interfering with the current top 10 scoring values. 

Yeah sorry Frank I misunderstood your original comment, I thought you were scoring on the ghost leaderboard for only  11-32, but yeah I see what you mean now ?

Don’t forget that the first race of the season doesn’t count towards the ‘highest finish’... one of the other quirks of the game lol
I assume this is still the case

Nice one Kevin ?
We’ve not had a debatable situation at the bottom for a while so I haven’t had a chance to look at it properly for a while!