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medal 5077
4 years 11 days ago
Hello everybody. Again and again there is a request in my league for a tire rule that obliges to use 2 different tires. the vote is usually 50:50. but the real problem is that some may not have itcould hold. of course the whole race result is somehow meaningless. that would cause a lot of trouble. Another problem, of course, is how you usually punished for not complying with one. with a kick? would be completely covered. possible solution: maybe for us host a button in the league menu would be to '' consider '' where you could turn a tire rule + '' punishment '' ON / OFF. similar to creating the race calendar with the'' random '' button!is just an idea!
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medal 5001
4 years 11 days ago
We have 2 tyre rule in ELITE. U simply get 1 chance (unless you haven't logged in and are running default) do it a second time u get kicked.

Prior to our league we were in a league where every race was a 3 stops softs and the usual candidates won every race. Really emphasised the difference in lvl between teams. 

However..  the 2 tyre rule throws so many unknowns into every race now. How many stops, what tyres, how many laps on each... Oh and the racing has been beyond amazing!! Thankfully everyone's playing ball

Suppose u just have to manage it properly and be really strict on your rules. I like the button idea, that would help 
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medal 5000
4 years 11 days ago
I’ve raced in 2 tyre rule leagues. After 2 or 3 seasons everyone knew the fastest strategy at every track. Same thing happens when devs make the tyre differences larger or smaller. I personally don’t think 2 tyre rule should be added but if the majority wants then it obviously should. It has been requested quite often therefore I suggest a poll. 
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medal 4994 Moderator
4 years 10 days ago
Yes, a two tyre rule shouldn't be mandatory for all leagues, but a choice. After a while it all settles and it's back to same strategy, but now with less choice of alternatives to attempt to break out of the formula.

The problem with the two tyre rule is that so far noone came up with a good, easy and working way to enforce it. In the end it's mostly automatic penalties for teams failing to comply.
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medal 5077
4 years 10 days ago

Frank
Yes, a two tyre rule shouldn't be mandatory for all leagues, but a choice. After a while it all settles and it's back to same strategy, but now with less choice of alternatives to attempt to break out of the formula.

The problem with the two tyre rule is that so far noone came up with a good, easy and working way to enforce it. In the end it's mostly automatic penalties for teams failing to comply.


I don’t want it to be permanent. it shouldn't be for every league either. just wanted us admin to have another possible variant based on the number of routes, routes and race length. I thought of a button like on a route ''randomly select ''. Whether the majority of my league wants a tire rule, of course, I have to clarify with a vote. but as it has been named, enforcement is the problem. you put those who don’t follow it at the end of the dayResult. heavy.

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medal 5000
4 years 10 days ago
Hi,

I have heard '2 tyres rule' many times and I know several leagues applied this rule. So, I would like to know what's impact on the league if this rule is applied? What's pro and cons of this rule? 
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medal 5001
4 years 10 days ago
Races are mixed up as not every car is 3 stopping softs. Gives slower cars a chance and really mixed up the results. 

I'm just strict. U get 1 chance, do it again u get kicked. Doesn't matter who you are, what lvl u may be or how long you be raced with us. Simple rule. Simple to execute...no dramas
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medal 5000
4 years 10 days ago (Last edited by John Doe 4 years 10 days ago)
Andy
Hi,

I have heard '2 tyres rule' many times and I know several leagues applied this rule. So, I would like to know what's impact on the league if this rule is applied? What's pro and cons of this rule? 


Drivers are regulated to wear two tyre compunds. The pro point i can assume the race would be more interesting. As you need to be more specific on tyre choices and wear management on track. However the cons looks more significant. As we understand the differentiation of tyre compound between two drivers drastically affect performance lap time on track. Meanwhile you notice that you have the advantage over the same compound instead of having another one...

And personally to conclude i don't like this regulation. I don't either know wether the real life races like F1 regulates the same thing. Only that is as i said, compound affects performance on track and once it fits, i assume you will count on it

Last thing, Sven, i completely agree with you
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medal 5000
4 years 9 days ago
We run a 2 tyre rule but whereas in most other leagues with a 2 tyre rule, just say you must run 2 different compounds, we say whi h 2 compounds must be run. Sometimes is ss & S, other times it might be S & H. It varies it, no 2 races are the same, no 2 seasons are the same because one season, Spa might be S & H, the next season it might be S & M.
It's made for much better racing and a more open championship. 
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medal 5000
4 years 8 days ago
dont need a 2 tyre rule but we do need a max number of each tyre per season, that way you have to work out when to use your tyres and when to take a hit and use hards.

2 tyre rules just mean your forcing cars to run slower so slower cars can keep up a little, thats not racing.
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medal 4937
4 years 8 days ago

Dan
dont need a 2 tyre rule but we do need a max number of each tyre per season, that way you have to work out when to use your tyres and when to take a hit and use hards.

2 tyre rules just mean your forcing cars to run slower so slower cars can keep up a little, thats not racing.


Per race, season leigth is dynamic 

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medal 5000
4 years 8 days ago
Dan
dont need a 2 tyre rule but we do need a max number of each tyre per season, that way you have to work out when to use your tyres and when to take a hit and use hards.

2 tyre rules just mean your forcing cars to run slower so slower cars can keep up a little, thats not racing.


Yep that's what i mean... why slowing down instead of speeding up?
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medal 5000
4 years 8 days ago
I race in a 2 tyres League and we don't go slower but faster . I used to do 3 stop with s, now i go 1 stop ss 2 stops s(just an example). But now i feel the strategies more aggressive, the car goes more light, maybe i have to do 4 stops, but we have 100% lenght
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medal 5502
4 years 8 days ago
Maybe 3 stop soft is generic because everyone using it is generic, as in, all in the same league for season after season with the track list the same and everyone doing the same strategy, so what then do you have as a comparison if no one does anything different? 

Ideally a toggle of 2 tire compound rule on/off for the league host makes more sense, as well as a drive-through penalty for not complying implemented and then you if you look at the league and see it's 2-tire rule, and you don't like that, then don't join. 
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medal 5000
4 years 7 days ago

Chris
Maybe 3 stop soft is generic because everyone using it is generic, as in, all in the same league for season after season with the track list the same and everyone doing the same strategy, so what then do you have as a comparison if no one does anything different? 

Ideally a toggle of 2 tire compound rule on/off for the league host makes more sense, as well as a drive-through penalty for not complying implemented and then you if you look at the league and see it's 2-tire rule, and you don't like that, then don't join. 

I think the same about the toggle, i was just responding to aulia about going slower, i finished my 1st season 2 tyres rule and i don't think that way, maybe after 4-5 i can agreed on using the same strategy for every race, i don't know yet..
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medal 5502
4 years 7 days ago
True that Luca but you may notice i didn't quote you when i commented (i assume that's why you stated who you were responding to) so i was speaking in general. Ideally unless there is a heck of a lot of variables implemented, we'll end up with most of the races being the same no matter what you do with them. I think there should be at least 4 tiers though, jamming lvl 10-15 in with half or 3/4 of a league of lvl 20's doesn't really help their cause. 
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