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Reputation Revolution

Should the whole HOF and reputation system need to get changed?

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Yes
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Nope
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medal 5000
3 years 201 days ago (Last edited by Tan Chong Jian 3 years 200 days ago)
This is the second episode of "Reputation scaling to racedays" and any other things related to the reputation.

They can take our ability to post...

But they'll never take out our argument to the HOF and reputation system!

Slo, Bastian, and Dome are trying to elevate the game into a next level!
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medal 5000
3 years 201 days ago
Just bring back the old reputation system but remove the 10000 cap. Simple.
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medal 5002
3 years 201 days ago
How about this for a revolution: the league i host races monday to friday, no racing during weekends.
How about we make it a 5 day online and 2 day offline league, that way the rep problem is out the window. How about that for a revolution?
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medal 5000
3 years 201 days ago
Maybe i aint sure.
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medal 5000
3 years 201 days ago
Similar to a suggestion I posted not too long ago. Completely reset all reputations to 0, and allow negative reputation.
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medal 5000
3 years 200 days ago (Last edited by Tan Chong Jian 3 years 199 days ago)
1) The scaling of reputation of current system need to be changed. Current system is very unfair for those leagues which are running less race days in a week. Maybe all the leagues can centralized to only have same amount of race days in a week... either 5 race days in a week or full race days (maybe we can have a vote for that).
2) Current system is also very unfair for those top-classes managers who are racing in strong and tight league. It gives lots of advantages to those top, or upper-middle classes managers who are racing in weak league to increase the reputation fastly (all the leagues are using the same type of finishing position calculation so they's no league strength in the game now) once they've dominated weak league easily due to always finished in podium places. I had done an experiment to prove that by putting my jnr team into a weak league to race. My jnr team got 10++ wins in a season and also managed to finish in top 4 every times. After that, my jnr team had increased the ranking from 700th++ in world to even top 20 in world standing in just a season. So the league strength should be added into the system. The league strength can be calculated by different kind of factors (finished race times, weather, active players, reputation of players and more....). We can also have a new HOF leaderboard called "league" which can shown the league strength of top hundred leagues in world. Maybe it will be very complex for devs, but it's one of the best solutions to increase the players gaming experience.
3) Based on the top 100 in league leaderboard, the game can give different amount of money to the Top 2 in Rookie, Top 2 in Pro and Top 5 in Elite as the end of the season rewards of HOF(league). The end of the season rewards of HOF in world standing (manager) can also be retained so we have two types of end of season rewards of HOF.
4) The reputation of all managers need to reset to 5000 after every seasons.
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medal 5002
3 years 199 days ago

Slo
How about this for a revolution: the league i host races monday to friday, no racing during weekends.
How about we make it a 5 day online and 2 day offline league, that way the rep problem is out the window. How about that for a revolution?


We’re going to try this out next season, anyone know if there are other leagues doing this?
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medal 5000
3 years 198 days ago
Tan
1) The scaling of reputation of current system need to be changed. Current system is very unfair for those leagues which are running less race days in a week. Maybe all the leagues can centralized to only have same amount of race days in a week... either 5 race days in a week or full race days (maybe we can have a vote for that).
2) Current system is also very unfair for those top-classes managers who are racing in strong and tight league. It gives lots of advantages to those top, or upper-middle classes managers who are racing in weak league to increase the reputation fastly (all the leagues are using the same type of finishing position calculation so they's no league strength in the game now) once they've dominated weak league easily due to always finished in podium places. I had done an experiment to prove that by putting my jnr team into a weak league to race. My jnr team got 10++ wins in a season and also managed to finish in top 4 every times. After that, my jnr team had increased the ranking from 700th++ in world to even top 20 in world standing in just a season. So the league strength should be added into the system. The league strength can be calculated by different kind of factors (finished race times, weather, active players, reputation of players and more....). We can also have a new HOF leaderboard called "league" which can shown the league strength of top hundred leagues in world. Maybe it will be very complex for devs, but it's one of the best solutions to increase the players gaming experience.
3) Based on the top 100 in league leaderboard, the game can give different amount of money to the Top 2 in Rookie, Top 2 in Pro and Top 5 in Elite as the end of the season rewards of HOF(league). The end of the season rewards of HOF in world standing (manager) can also be retained so we have two types of end of season rewards of HOF.
4) The reputation of all managers need to reset to 5000 after every seasons.



Since above 80% of managers think there're lots of huge issues on our current reputation system and the whole system need to be changed, so Jose, I hope you can reconsider these with the game engineers to improve our game experience.
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medal 5000
3 years 188 days ago
We need keep commenting on this thread until Jose reconsider this suggestion, otherwise he will just ignore more great ideas and throw them into the trash bin of iGP Manager. Our reputation system need a huge revolution!
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medal 5624
3 years 185 days ago

Tan
We need keep commenting on this thread until Jose reconsider this suggestion, otherwise he will just ignore more great ideas and throw them into the trash bin of iGP Manager. Our reputation system need a huge revolution!



Wont happen.  Right now anyway, I would hazard a guess at.


My people watching self can see that with the number of threads about this in under two months, it is natural that the mods and devs will dig in and keep saying no.  Simply because that was their first answer and THE MATTER is getting annoying to them.  

My advice would be to wait for at least 6 months (yes, that long) before one person alone (yes, that many) posts one thread about this.  That one person being the only one who interacts with the mods after posting.  You may even get a result if you do that...
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medal 5000
3 years 185 days ago

Timothy

Tan
We need keep commenting on this thread until Jose reconsider this suggestion, otherwise he will just ignore more great ideas and throw them into the trash bin of iGP Manager. Our reputation system need a huge revolution!



Wont happen.  Right now anyway, I would hazard a guess at.


My people watching self can see that with the number of threads about this in under two months, it is natural that the mods and devs will dig in and keep saying no.  Simply because that was their first answer and THE MATTER is getting annoying to them.  

My advice would be to wait for at least 6 months (yes, that long) before one person alone (yes, that many) posts one thread about this.  That one person being the only one who interacts with the mods after posting.  You may even get a result if you do that...



Very bad that Jose has banned Dome again and neglected all of the great ideas by closing many of threads without any reason (I saw he did that towards many threads today). Maybe he will close this thread in very soon of near future... I've no idea why he doesn't want the game to have better gaming experience and neglect all the great suggestions...in my opinion, we need some moderators to help us to speak something about agreeing us by posting thread at here...otherwise this suggestion won't get any attraction from the devs team.
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medal 5624
3 years 185 days ago
Tan

Timothy

Tan
We need keep commenting on this thread until Jose reconsider this suggestion, otherwise he will just ignore more great ideas and throw them into the trash bin of iGP Manager. Our reputation system need a huge revolution!



Wont happen.  Right now anyway, I would hazard a guess at.


My people watching self can see that with the number of threads about this in under two months, it is natural that the mods and devs will dig in and keep saying no.  Simply because that was their first answer and THE MATTER is getting annoying to them.  

My advice would be to wait for at least 6 months (yes, that long) before one person alone (yes, that many) posts one thread about this.  That one person being the only one who interacts with the mods after posting.  You may even get a result if you do that...



Very bad that Jose has banned Dome again and neglected all of the great ideas by closing many of threads without any reason (I saw he did that towards many threads today). Maybe he will close this thread in very soon of near future... I've no idea why he doesn't want the game to have better gaming experience and neglect all the great suggestions...in my opinion, we need some moderators to help us to speak something about agreeing us by posting thread at here...otherwise this suggestion won't get any attraction from the devs team.



Let me explain my full thinking here.


1. The devs made these changes less than 6 months ago and will want more time to guage everything in all aspects properly before they make another move.

2.  There is, psychologically, something that smacks of the parable of the boy who cried wolf about all of these threads about this matter.  That means that mods will now just be looking at the title and ignoring it.  This is standard psycology and what my previous suggestion addresses.

3. after all of the works that have been done recently, if devs will not want to be changing something, that is their perogative, for a while, at least.
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medal 5002 Super Mod
3 years 184 days ago (Last edited by Kevin Bissell 3 years 184 days ago)
Well said Timothy.

Just to say that none of the threads are ignored, all suggestions are noted by the community manager and may (or may not) steer the course of the game as it evolves. 

There is no point in Mods posting on these suggestion threads because we don't decide the future of the game and the original poster is usually passionate about their idea so is resistant to any alternative point of view. Usually the whole thing ends up in a long winded argument which gets us nowhere.

Anyone who's been here a while will know the mess I used to get myself into by arguing against crashes and other random events so I now bite my lip and endeavour to remain silent.
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medal 5000
3 years 184 days ago
Kevin
Well said Timothy.

Just to say that none of the threads are ignored, all suggestions are noted by the community manager and may (or may not) steer the course of the game as it evolves. 

There is no point in Mods posting on these suggestion threads because we don't decide the future of the game and the original poster is usually passionate about their idea so is resistant to any alternative point of view. Usually the whole thing ends up in a long winded argument which gets us nowhere.

Anyone who's been here a while will know the mess I used to get myself into by arguing against crashes and other random events so I now bite my lip and endeavour to remain silent.


Did I hear wind? Power to the windmill

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medal 5624
3 years 184 days ago

Kevin
Well said Timothy.

Just to say that none of the threads are ignored, all suggestions are noted by the community manager and may (or may not) steer the course of the game as it evolves. 

There is no point in Mods posting on these suggestion threads because we don't decide the future of the game and the original poster is usually passionate about their idea so is resistant to any alternative point of view. Usually the whole thing ends up in a long winded argument which gets us nowhere.

Anyone who's been here a while will know the mess I used to get myself into by arguing against crashes and other random events so I now bite my lip and endeavour to remain silent.



Thanks, Kevin for the back up and putting me right.  Maybe the word 'ignore' was a little harsh.
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medal 5000
3 years 178 days ago (Last edited by Lai Yong Liang 3 years 178 days ago)
Do you know?
Why we joined top league instead of those weak leagues although we know it's easier a lot to get reputation in weak league?
Why don't we join weak leagues although we know that we can get inside top hundred in world standing easily if we always get the max reputation every races in weak league by dominating with 10 secs++?
Reputation is already became our secondary thing. The most important thing is, you can have interesting races and battles with lots of managers who are stronger than you, or same level as you when you're racing in top league. Get defeated the races to takes it as knowledge and experience although the reputation keep getting deducted.
But if the league strength added into the reputation system, the ranking would be more accurate and we would be more confident with our skills and experience.
Reputation, which need a huge revolution, so it can shows who is the actual best among the players in the game, who is overrated and who is underrated under our current poor reputation system.
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