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Tech Level vs Elite Tier

Level 5 design and level 4 Technology shouldn't be allowed in Elite ?
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what are you on about...

So,

You are saying that people whom have grafted to max out their HQ should be effectively banned from elite tiers?

Also, you are not saying anything about where those trams should go.  Should we have an "extreme" tier for maxed out teams?  If we have that sort of tier, how should we deal with relegated teams?

Eventually, all teams should strive to max out their HQ's and then it is up to team managers' decisions re. Drivers, staff, sponsorships and suppliers, as it should be in elite.

Also, don't get yourself down.  I have seen lower level teams get podiums in elite tiers, even.  Anything is achievable if you put your mind to it.

You're absolutely right. I got into elite at level 11 with level 8 design and tech! I was a lamb to the slaughter and only just scraped one point at the end of the season due to a weather strategy call. But I've kept at it and built up slowly over 6 or 7 seasons, until last season where i won the championship while at level 17. A bit of perseverance and dedication goes a long way

I wish I had level 8 Design and Tech LMAO

I got in Elite at level 12 after 40 races with level 4 Design and level 3 Tech, now level 5 Design and level 4 Tech. 40 races are not enough time to upgrade facilities to a medium level while leveling up as a manager is way too fast. If you're good enough at this game you find yourself in Elite without having a team to actually race in an Elite tier, not even close. And you have to try to do miracles to save from relegation. Cause meanwhile your "manager level" gets above 14 and if you get relegated you'll have ballast next season in Pro without even having the level of Technology to compensate.
THIS, is what I'm talking about. 

it is used to make low-level players spend the tokens. someone has to contribute to this game

An example.


There is a manager in my league whom could not get access to his original team, even with the help of the mods and devs on here (It was not anybodies fault), but I digress.
He started a new team from scratch, half way through a season.  One and a half seasons later he was competing in and staying in elite.  It can be done!

As a proviso, I never asked and would not ask if that manager spent any real money on his new team, that is inappropiate.  He never told me about that sort of thing, either.

Half and a season later? So about 30 races? And he stayed in Elite. If so, your league is very easy or he spent money to buy tokens and upgrade his facilities very fast. 

I got into elite after 57 races, at level 11, with design and tech at level 7 or 8. I was a lamb to the slaughter and only scraped one point all season in a race that conditions changed. During that time I bought a small token pack or two to accelerate hq development. Competitive in elite after 30 races sounds a bit far fetched to me 

As I said gents.  I did not ask and he did not say if he spent any real money.  He, is, though, one of the most experienced managers that I know and it would not surprise me if he had the odd, legal, trick up his sleeve...

in my opinion, the problem he wanted to highlight is the fact that the xp points system is very old and should be updated. with this method you grow too fast compared to when there were very few 20 levels. in addition it would take a minimum level to be able to rise to the elite not because the lower levels are not able to win but to avoid that the pro and rookie categories are always scarce of managers while it is very difficult to find a place in some elites. then that this serves to get some money into the coffers of the game is a fact in my opinion also right.

i agree and even think its designed to put you in exactly this situation and push players towards spending money on tokens.

What I mean is very simple.
These are my results in the six races so far in Elite: P19, P19, P27, P24, P19, P18. And I'm 27th in Championship. I also have a doubt about two or three level 19-20 teams who are not racing atm and they're behind me but will surely just do a couple races by the end of the season with a super car just to save themselves from relegation. And that means I'm currently relegated, cause I need to score a P13 to get the position ahead of me in the Championship and I'll never get it this season. I'll be level 13 next race and level 14 by the end of the season. That means I'll probably be level 15 next season in Pro in a few races if I get relegated (cause there are level 20 teams in Pro), I'll have ballast and won't have enough Technology to compensate, I also need to upgrade Design and Manufacturing as I'm running out of parts and videos are not always available (also, the higher level I get the more parts I need to fix the car and my facility is very low level, so I'd need to watch a lot of vids everyday). So in the worst case, my next season in Pro will be even harder than my first one when I got promoted in Elite. ?
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I would say and my advice is, take the relegation, run a few seasons in pro whilst you build your levels up in general, then actually be able to compete in elite.  This is what many, many managers have done in the past...

I agree, the elite league I'm currently in is so competitive, that anything less than level 16 with maximum allowed level design and tech, and talent 20 drivers, wouldn't be enough. A few drivers have been promoted, relegated, and promoted again to elite over the seasons. It takes a good 6 months of daily league racing to get to a point where you can be competitive in a decent elite league. Just takes a bit of time and dedication... ?

I appear to be in that situation ?

In the past, a manager didn't get to level 12-13 just after 40 races cause there were no level 19-20 players in Rookie and Pro tiers to get you an enormous amount of XP points every race.

Take the relegation and do a few seasons in Pro? No thanks. I'll have ballast and still a very low level of design and technology as it takes very long time to upgrade the main facilities to your own level now. And with such a low Tech and ballast on the car it'll be even more frustrating than now in Elite. I prefer to keep trying miracles to score decent finishes and try to save from relegation while I keep upgrading. Sooner or later I'll be on equal terms with others. But this is certainly a super frustrating situation. 

It's brutal mate, a few of us that started in that lockdown period were lucky to be the first, I was level 12 when I got to elite but the league wasn't as full of dedicated managers. Some drop outs, some people absent and not doing setups. It was still really hard work, even then. But now i think level 16 is the lowest in there, with most managers turning up almost every day. If I was in your situation currently I doubt I'd be doing much better mate, keep plugging away mate. Message me if there's anything you're unsure of