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medal 5183
3 years 171 days ago
I'm fed up with 3 stops on soft tyres winning pretty much every race. What's the point of mediums and softs if they can't be used creatively. I have the 3rd best car in the league, top driver, raced Singapore tonight, 26 degrees, mediums only one 10th of a second slower than softs so great I thought let's two stop and go mediums if they are pretty much the same. I came 8th. Destroyed totally by cars 3 stopping on softs. I thought softs were for colder weather, 26 degrees! Don't get it!
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medal 5000
3 years 171 days ago
Singapore city circuit where it is very difficult to overtake or stay behind the car in front of you .... you started behind heavily while the light front s ran away When they came in for the first Pitt maybe you had the fastest car in the mail but you may have had someone in front of you blocking you and your advantage lasted a few laps anyway. After yours Pit you are back to being much heavier then you lost again and if we take into account that the pit stop in Singapore is fast enough this is the reason why you lost You chose the wrong strategy in this case it's not the game's fault.The m become faster than the s on the tracks where there are long straights and where the pit is long. Example Austria Malaysia etc. 
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medal 5000
3 years 171 days ago
In my group it's compulsory to use two tyre compounds in a given race any combination. We found all tyres work well in their own operating window. I introduced two compounds because I found Softs became the default tyre. Good luck.
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medal 5183
3 years 171 days ago

Legen
Singapore city circuit where it is very difficult to overtake or stay behind the car in front of you .... you started behind heavily while the light front s ran away When they came in for the first Pitt maybe you had the fastest car in the mail but you may have had someone in front of you blocking you and your advantage lasted a few laps anyway. After yours Pit you are back to being much heavier then you lost again and if we take into account that the pit stop in Singapore is fast enough this is the reason why you lost You chose the wrong strategy in this case it's not the game's fault.The m become faster than the s on the tracks where there are long straights and where the pit is long. Example Austria Malaysia etc. 



I take your point BUT it's very very rare that medium tyres EVER dominate a race even though testing sometime suggests they will. And that's my point, if the harder tyres were allowed just a little more power the game would become entirely different and much more exciting.
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medal 5000
3 years 170 days ago
You need to alter your push level I've won plenty of races using Mediums. 
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medal 5002
3 years 170 days ago
Malcolm

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Singapore city circuit where it is very difficult to overtake or stay behind the car in front of you .... you started behind heavily while the light front s ran away When they came in for the first Pitt maybe you had the fastest car in the mail but you may have had someone in front of you blocking you and your advantage lasted a few laps anyway. After yours Pit you are back to being much heavier then you lost again and if we take into account that the pit stop in Singapore is fast enough this is the reason why you lost You chose the wrong strategy in this case it's not the game's fault.The m become faster than the s on the tracks where there are long straights and where the pit is long. Example Austria Malaysia etc. 



I take your point BUT it's very very rare that medium tyres EVER dominate a race even though testing sometime suggests they will. And that's my point, if the harder tyres were allowed just a little more power the game would become entirely different and much more exciting.


There are races where meds are better but its just a handfull of tracks and it needs higher temps to work.


The league i host also has a 2 compound rule and i find it works well. Yes there are races with a single winning strategy but there certainly are enough races with different strats in top 10
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medal 5183
3 years 169 days ago

Slo
Malcolm

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Singapore city circuit where it is very difficult to overtake or stay behind the car in front of you .... you started behind heavily while the light front s ran away When they came in for the first Pitt maybe you had the fastest car in the mail but you may have had someone in front of you blocking you and your advantage lasted a few laps anyway. After yours Pit you are back to being much heavier then you lost again and if we take into account that the pit stop in Singapore is fast enough this is the reason why you lost You chose the wrong strategy in this case it's not the game's fault.The m become faster than the s on the tracks where there are long straights and where the pit is long. Example Austria Malaysia etc. 



I take your point BUT it's very very rare that medium tyres EVER dominate a race even though testing sometime suggests they will. And that's my point, if the harder tyres were allowed just a little more power the game would become entirely different and much more exciting.


There are races where meds are better but its just a handfull of tracks and it needs higher temps to work.


The league i host also has a 2 compound rule and i find it works well. Yes there are races with a single winning strategy but there certainly are enough races with different strats in top 10



I think you could set all races in a season to 3 X softs and out of say 20 races you'd be on the money for about 17 of them. Maybe they've just made the softs exactly as they are in F1 but all I'm saying is if they rolled the performance off the softs at say 23 degrees just a touch it would open up the game tactically and make them less predictable. At the moment if you have one or two cars dominating there's no point at all trying something a bit different because the better car running the 3 softs is untouchable.
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medal 5002
3 years 169 days ago

Malcolm

Slo
Malcolm

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Singapore city circuit where it is very difficult to overtake or stay behind the car in front of you .... you started behind heavily while the light front s ran away When they came in for the first Pitt maybe you had the fastest car in the mail but you may have had someone in front of you blocking you and your advantage lasted a few laps anyway. After yours Pit you are back to being much heavier then you lost again and if we take into account that the pit stop in Singapore is fast enough this is the reason why you lost You chose the wrong strategy in this case it's not the game's fault.The m become faster than the s on the tracks where there are long straights and where the pit is long. Example Austria Malaysia etc. 



I take your point BUT it's very very rare that medium tyres EVER dominate a race even though testing sometime suggests they will. And that's my point, if the harder tyres were allowed just a little more power the game would become entirely different and much more exciting.


There are races where meds are better but its just a handfull of tracks and it needs higher temps to work.


The league i host also has a 2 compound rule and i find it works well. Yes there are races with a single winning strategy but there certainly are enough races with different strats in top 10



I think you could set all races in a season to 3 X softs and out of say 20 races you'd be on the money for about 17 of them. Maybe they've just made the softs exactly as they are in F1 but all I'm saying is if they rolled the performance off the softs at say 23 degrees just a touch it would open up the game tactically and make them less predictable. At the moment if you have one or two cars dominating there's no point at all trying something a bit different because the better car running the 3 softs is untouchable.


True, thats why we have a 2 compound rule, it mixes thing up.
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medal 5000
3 years 169 days ago
In my experiences, medium tyres only work at mid 30 degrees or over on medium to high-speed circuits. I would never use mediums on Singapore as it is a slow twisty circuit that uses high wing level. Go SS to get track position at the start of the race then softs for your next few stints. I can only go off our 1 speed 100% distance experience. Good luck next time
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medal 5000
3 years 163 days ago
My league limits to max 2 sets of each compound... as well as mandatory harder starting tyres for 10 top drivers... works well, forces multiple strategies
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medal 5000
3 years 160 days ago

Jax
In my experiences, medium tyres only work at mid 30 degrees or over on medium to high-speed circuits. I would never use mediums on Singapore as it is a slow twisty circuit that uses high wing level. Go SS to get track position at the start of the race then softs for your next few stints. I can only go off our 1 speed 100% distance experience. Good luck next time


You're spot on, but there is an exception that I've found...
I'm in a 50 percent league, and I've won on a 1 stop medium strategy in France, in temperatures as low as 13 degrees... 
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medal 5096
3 years 140 days ago
There's nothing wrong with the mediums, it's the hard tyres that are nerfed. I've ran M on tracks with 5°C temperature and matched, if not overtaken, cars on the softs.
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medal 5000
3 years 139 days ago

David
There's nothing wrong with the mediums, it's the hard tyres that are nerfed. I've ran M on tracks with 5°C temperature and matched, if not overtaken, cars on the softs.



Yep, fast circuits like Italy and France they can still be pretty effective in a race 
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medal 5000
3 years 139 days ago

Malcolm

Slo
Malcolm

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Singapore city circuit where it is very difficult to overtake or stay behind the car in front of you .... you started behind heavily while the light front s ran away When they came in for the first Pitt maybe you had the fastest car in the mail but you may have had someone in front of you blocking you and your advantage lasted a few laps anyway. After yours Pit you are back to being much heavier then you lost again and if we take into account that the pit stop in Singapore is fast enough this is the reason why you lost You chose the wrong strategy in this case it's not the game's fault.The m become faster than the s on the tracks where there are long straights and where the pit is long. Example Austria Malaysia etc. 



I take your point BUT it's very very rare that medium tyres EVER dominate a race even though testing sometime suggests they will. And that's my point, if the harder tyres were allowed just a little more power the game would become entirely different and much more exciting.


There are races where meds are better but its just a handfull of tracks and it needs higher temps to work.


The league i host also has a 2 compound rule and i find it works well. Yes there are races with a single winning strategy but there certainly are enough races with different strats in top 10



I think you could set all races in a season to 3 X softs and out of say 20 races you'd be on the money for about 17 of them. Maybe they've just made the softs exactly as they are in F1 but all I'm saying is if they rolled the performance off the softs at say 23 degrees just a touch it would open up the game tactically and make them less predictable. At the moment if you have one or two cars dominating there's no point at all trying something a bit different because the better car running the 3 softs is untouchable.


You need to get yourself some SS.... in most instances SS onto S is the way to go especially in the winter months and would beat S starters. As pointed out even if M were decent, you would quali towards the back of the grid, lose 10-15 secs in traffic at the start as the front runners ran away and then your race is fudged. I do agree however that perhaps, certain tyres could be tuned in better to certain tracks, for example Hards working really well in Italy, of SS in Monaco.... oh wait.... Merry Christmas 🎄 

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