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Reduce fuel usage and make tyres more competitive?

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medal 6098 CEO & CTO
10 years 69 days ago
In the real world, fuel economy has become a hot topic, with fuel now limited in series like F1. While I was considering how to make the hard tyre in iGP a more competitive race tyre, it dawned on me that one simple solution would be to reduce the amount of fuel required to run a race distance.

Not only would it be more true to life, but it would mean that the extremely heavy tanks of fuel needed on the hard tyre would be significantly reduced, making it more competitive over a stint.

What are your thoughts?
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medal 5000
10 years 69 days ago
Do it!
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medal 5049
10 years 69 days ago
It.  Could.  Work.
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medal 5000
10 years 68 days ago
If the change allows more options for competition, I'm up for it.
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medal 5000
10 years 68 days ago
I agree on the change. I never use hards in all 17 tracks.
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medal 5859
10 years 68 days ago
I like this idea and think it should be changed. I used hard tyres for the first time in a race with high tyre wear when I couldn't live-manage it. My strategy did well enough for me not being able to live manage (7th place). However I was a little disappointed that doing a one pit race wasn't an option on the hard tyres because the fuel load would be way too heavy for the car. The only time I feel okay running a one pit strategy is when I can only use full wet tyres because the life of those tyres is lovely and more than makes up for how heavy the fuel load is on the car.

I am not sure what the negative side of this may be. Few people prefer to do one extra pit stop or more in a race as they feel it is effective for them. That would result in a lighter fuel load for those people and I don't know how much faster their drivers' lap times would be in that case.
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medal 5000
10 years 67 days ago
Rather than reducing fuel consumption, which would mess up people's fuel data, what about reducing the effect of high fuel on lap time?
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medal 5000
10 years 66 days ago
Sounds good :)
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medal 5000
10 years 66 days ago
the tyres should give us more options, and it's the contrary at the moment.

it's a good idea to introduce fuel economy, ( why not breaking balance ? ) , but it could be nice first to finish the tyre system.
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medal 5000
10 years 65 days ago
I'm with Harrison Whitworth - I think reducing the effect of fuel load on lap time is a better idea.

In my experience, the only compound with problems is the Hard. Super soft, Soft and Medium all work reasonably well, but so far it seems since the introduction of the Super softs and Mediums, the Hards will get you killed on basically any track.

I think the Softs and Mediums are fine, but if I were to make any changes I'd suggest perhaps making the Super softs a touch less grippy (and thus a bit slower) and giving the Hards more grip. I think the longevity of all four compounds, however, is perfect.
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medal 5000
10 years 64 days ago
Combine a "fixed" fuel load with 2 tire compound requirement.  To keep with the spirit of F1 as it morphs season to season, changes like this should be simpler to code/keep up with.  If you stop refueling by having to select the fuel load over the race distance, you could make races even more interesting to participate in.  Races have become 6-10 lap per stint/5-7 stop events that are anything but similar to the race series.

The softer tires could be "hardened" because it may not make sense to try running a SS with 120L of fuel for the first 6-10 laps to get a gap that you then maintain and additionally, the necessity of running two compounds (unless it rains) will also cut down on the 7 stints of SS/S since you will have to put a harder and thereby slower tire on.  Pit stops can be quicker, and push levels would not only affect tire temp/wear but fuel rate to a greater degree.  Perhaps the difference of push 1 VS push 5 is a full liter per lap?  Will make you think more about strategy to get to the end.

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medal 5859
10 years 52 days ago
"Harrison
Rather than reducing fuel consumption, which would mess up people's fuel data, what about reducing the effect of high fuel on lap time?

Whoa, Harrison's suggestion is even better. I can't believe that didn't cross my mind in the first place!
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medal 5000
9 years 310 days ago
Did this ever happen? - Sounds good to me but I'm too new to know a difference..
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medal 5000
9 years 310 days ago
Sounds good, but has the change already been made or not? (this was originated 124 days ago)
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medal 5000
9 years 88 days ago
I don't think its necessary to change that because I think H tyres is only for 25% races (also 50?).
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medal 5000
9 years 88 days ago
On top of that I'd say; reduce the tyre life of the mediums and make the hard tyre a little faster. This on top of what you are suggesting would indeed make the hard tyre a more viable option. Atm, I don't think anyone who's winning races is using the Hards
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medal 5000
9 years 88 days ago
Hards are literally useless, the only way to make them work is if your driver is that much better than everyone elses. In which case you're not playing against very good managers...
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medal 5000
9 years 87 days ago
the temp on ss that are overheating can go as fast like they are on the right temp and tbh sometimes i find that in this game stratergy dont really play much because everyone just make use of the fastest stra. Maybe the game could decided 2 compound that can be use after they tweak the tyres because no one really uses hards and meduims should get a little closer but still slower so that people on 2 and 4 stops make a different on different length of the race.
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medal 5000
9 years 87 days ago
Oh hell noo.. we aint going back to the days of 2 tyres
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medal 5000
9 years 87 days ago
The problem with hard tyres is not the fuel load dropping the fuel to match that of super soft the hard tyre is still 2seconds a lap slower. So less fuel isn't going to solve anything.

The durability of hard tyres is ok but it should really last longer than 15laps, it's crazy when you watch F1 and see them doing 12 laps on supers and 19 on softs sometimes even more.

The whole idea of having harder tyres is so you can still be going while the other person is pitting. But it doesn't work out that way someone on supers can pit twice and still be ahead of someone on hards because the hards are too slow.
Med and Hard tyres both need a kick up the back side, either that or lower the life of supers and softs to make meds and hards look better lol
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