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medal 4947
2 years 244 days ago (Last edited by Bud Oil 2 years 244 days ago)
As the title I ask to consider to raise the pace for M and H to give players more options strategies. At moment it's very difficult to make the 1stop-less strategy which was a strong conservative strategy to give the opportunity to make a good result if your Qualifying is not good. Now it seems impossible this option as the strategies are all the same in many tracks and harder compounds seem have great difficulty on pace.

Another suggestion is about Tyre Economy as a stat. I had tested that stat in past and now in particular the last two races adding 40 points. I found no changes between the increased value and the reset one.... I tried other games where you can manage like in IGP Manager and decreasing the tyre wear was very useful, more than in this game where it seems useless increasing that value. Maybe you can make the max for that value at 100 instead of 200 (or just make it more consistent) or make whatever to have a bigger impact in the difference if is someone wants to take careful of FE.

Sorry for my English



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medal 5188
2 years 244 days ago
I agree that the pace is lacking, even when the temp is high.

Most circuits in this period have low temperature so performance is forgiven, going under the radar, but I had a race in Brazil where SS overheated at PL1 but still performed better than softs, in the end they dominated the top 10. Since that was the final race the cars were equal.

I don't see a change in strategies in the summer, the Hards tires are completely useless right now.
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medal 5000
2 years 243 days ago
yeah, I totally agree with that too. The pace of M and H was too low, and the fuel makes it too hard to do a conservative strategy. In races of around 20 degree Celsius, the S with a bit lower push level will still be superior to M and H; that doesn't make sense
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medal 4947
2 years 243 days ago
Even more as you say the tyre wear of M is bigger than before (see that in Barcelona, Malesia or China) that makes impossible to make the conservative strategy
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medal 5498
2 years 242 days ago
Totally agree. I also participated in the Brazil race mentioned by Ghost, which should’ve been the perfect race (31 degrees, fair amount of straight) to use mediums, but they were definitely a worse choice than supersofts and softs. Only our unique league rules forced some to use them, otherwise there was no chance I’d touch them.

I would like both medium and hard pace to be slightly increased, and hard wear reduced, to make them a unique option as a tyre that goes ‘forever’. Could make them viable if the tyre cliff is harshened in the future. 

An alternative solution could include making the push levels more impactful, making the harder tyres faster when it’s hotter. For example, in a Brazil 31 degree race, the relative medium pace would increase as you can push on the tyres, whereas supersofts would overheat (only pl1) and softs would be on the edge (almost all pl1). Therefore, with a more impactful push, the mediums would quicken and become viable with the ability to push.
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medal 5645
2 years 240 days ago

Chris
Totally agree. I also participated in the Brazil race mentioned by Ghost, which should’ve been the perfect race (31 degrees, fair amount of straight) to use mediums, but they were definitely a worse choice than supersofts and softs. Only our unique league rules forced some to use them, otherwise there was no chance I’d touch them.

I would like both medium and hard pace to be slightly increased, and hard wear reduced, to make them a unique option as a tyre that goes ‘forever’. Could make them viable if the tyre cliff is harshened in the future. 

An alternative solution could include making the push levels more impactful, making the harder tyres faster when it’s hotter. For example, in a Brazil 31 degree race, the relative medium pace would increase as you can push on the tyres, whereas supersofts would overheat (only pl1) and softs would be on the edge (almost all pl1). Therefore, with a more impactful push, the mediums would quicken and become viable with the ability to push.



That's the same for me, in Brazil with 28°C I thought it was finally M time, but I couldn't compete with less-developed cars wearing SS and S. It simply makes no sense at all...
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medal 4947
2 years 239 days ago
Furthermore in the tracks where it is very cold are useless when those tires should be an option in all conditions... I suggest to favorite the overheat when it's cold
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medal 5968
2 years 238 days ago
Mediums were usable until a few weeks ago now they are useless like hards
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medal 5000
2 years 223 days ago
Push levels need to have more impact and M's & H's need to be increased in pace slightly. I agree with Stanley. H's should have a "run forever" idea behind them. Would allow for different starts that maybe other racers don't see coming until late in the race.
Track temp needs to play a bigger role in tire usage. Right now I can get away with SS's at 28 degrees in Malaysia. Maybe lower there useful temp range, across the board.
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medal 5000
2 years 222 days ago
I actually like the mediums & have had success with them (not at the top level obviously, yet)
I do agree though that all compounds need to last longer, also tyre economy needs to be useful.
For tyre economy to be useful, tyres need to last for long stints. Longer than 10 to 15 laps, much longer
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medal 4856
2 years 221 days ago
For me the pace of M and H are right but they should overheating SS and S should have more impact 
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medal 5968
2 years 218 days ago
This has been an issue for years and most requested, don't expect any changes any time soon, mediums were usable but they killed them off recently
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