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Bud Oil medal 5000
2 years 276 days ago (Last edited by Bud Oil 2 years 276 days ago)
What you think about the no fuel mode?

My first impressions about 75%: the 2-stop strategy seems too much powerful related to the 3-stop strategy! I think there would be a better balance! Some ideas should be 
-reduce pit length (!! In some tracks like China and Australia, Austria.. should be more important reduce that)
-make the fresh tyres more powerful. In fact the gap between a 100% tyre and a 60/50% is not appreciable at all (maybe is the most important thing to correct)
-SS and S more powerful (? I am not sure but I think that Mediums are too much powerful in this mode)


What are your thoughts? 
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Antonio Ascari medal 5409
2 years 276 days ago

Bud
What you think about the no fuel mode?

My first impressions about 75%: the 2-stop strategy seems too much powerful related to the 3-stop strategy! I think there would be a better balance! Some ideas should be 
-reduce pit length (!! In some tracks like China and Australia, Austria.. should be more important reduce that)
-make the fresh tyres more powerful. In fact the gap between a 100% tyre and a 60/50% is not appreciable at all (maybe is the most important thing to correct)
-SS and S more powerful (? I am not sure but I think that Mediums are too much powerful in this mode)


What are your thoughts? 

I’ve another idea: put refuelling back on


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White Noise medal 5000
2 years 276 days ago

Bud
What you think about the no fuel mode?

My first impressions about 75%: the 2-stop strategy seems too much powerful related to the 3-stop strategy! I think there would be a better balance! Some ideas should be 
-reduce pit length (!! In some tracks like China and Australia, Austria.. should be more important reduce that)
-make the fresh tyres more powerful. In fact the gap between a 100% tyre and a 60/50% is not appreciable at all (maybe is the most important thing to correct)
-SS and S more powerful (? I am not sure but I think that Mediums are too much powerful in this mode)


What are your thoughts? 



Race on 100%, the strategies actually vary quite a bit when combined with 2 tyre rule
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Bud Oil medal 5000
2 years 276 days ago

White

Bud
What you think about the no fuel mode?

My first impressions about 75%: the 2-stop strategy seems too much powerful related to the 3-stop strategy! I think there would be a better balance! Some ideas should be 
-reduce pit length (!! In some tracks like China and Australia, Austria.. should be more important reduce that)
-make the fresh tyres more powerful. In fact the gap between a 100% tyre and a 60/50% is not appreciable at all (maybe is the most important thing to correct)
-SS and S more powerful (? I am not sure but I think that Mediums are too much powerful in this mode)


What are your thoughts? 



Race on 100%, the strategies actually vary quite a bit when combined with 2 tyre rule



Yes maybe 100 % is the best solution 
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John Doe medal 5000
2 years 276 days ago
I think that we have to try more races before giving our thoughts.
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Gunnar Acagi medal 5000
2 years 266 days ago

White

Race on 100%, the strategies actually vary quite a bit when combined with 2 tyre rule



Don't you agree that is a nonsense to make available more race options (I mean 25, 50 ,75 and 100% race lenght) and let unworkable 3 out of 4 options?
If 75% is available, then developers should make it work properly...
And more generally, the entire game should work properly. It needs more balance.
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe." S tyres working good up to wear ratings in which the M tyres "die". S tyres running faster than SS after few laps (I mean just after 3 or 4 with 11% degradation against 7%), etc etc...
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Kevin Bissell medal 5000 Super Mod
2 years 264 days ago
Dario
No refuelling sucks and was a waste of dev time. Again they add stuff to the game without thought, doesn’t take a genius to know you got to balance tyre wear, fuel consumption etc for it to work properly. 
Now it’s just M tyres at the start then SS towards the end when low fuel.


IMO you're being a bit unfair when you say no refuelling sucks. Of course you are entitled to your opinion but I know a number of experienced managers who are enjoying the new way of playing. I expect when the best strategies have been found the novelty will wear off, but regardless of refuelling on or off there is always going to be an optimum strategy which eventually everyone converges on.
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Titan Jr medal 5000
2 years 254 days ago
I think it works great and everyone in my league is enjoying it. The only thing that bugs me is that if you want to delay a stop you need to cancel pit every lap
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Herbie Rides Again medal 5000
2 years 254 days ago
Kevin
Dario
No refuelling sucks and was a waste of dev time. Again they add stuff to the game without thought, doesn’t take a genius to know you got to balance tyre wear, fuel consumption etc for it to work properly. 
Now it’s just M tyres at the start then SS towards the end when low fuel.


IMO you're being a bit unfair when you say no refuelling sucks. Of course you are entitled to your opinion but I know a number of experienced managers who are enjoying the new way of playing. I expect when the best strategies have been found the novelty will wear off, but regardless of refuelling on or off there is always going to be an optimum strategy which eventually everyone converges on.


Not sure whether there is a single optimal or narrow range of strategies like there is in refuelling leagues.  No refuelling has been quite a pleasant surprise to me and race to race it’s really refreshing to see that a wide variety of strategies work in one race and then when you come across another track where you expect a similar strategy to work it doesn’t ?.  ATM, I’m a using wide range of strategies race to race and so is everyone else meaning we often have a smorgasbord of strategies with more tyres coming into play in a single race and that’s at 75%.  At 100% I would expect it to be even better.
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Max Verstappen medal 5000
2 years 253 days ago

Bud
What you think about the no fuel mode?

My first impressions about 75%: the 2-stop strategy seems too much powerful related to the 3-stop strategy! I think there would be a better balance! Some ideas should be 
-reduce pit length (!! In some tracks like China and Australia, Austria.. should be more important reduce that)
-make the fresh tyres more powerful. In fact the gap between a 100% tyre and a 60/50% is not appreciable at all (maybe is the most important thing to correct)
-SS and S more powerful (? I am not sure but I think that Mediums are too much powerful in this mode)


What are your thoughts? 



I agree with you in some area 100% race make more powerful new tyre improve medium and hard tyre spees 
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Matthew Cammish medal 5000
2 years 253 days ago
Titan
I think it works great and everyone in my league is enjoying it. The only thing that bugs me is that if you want to delay a stop you need to cancel pit every lap


If you are at the race just set each stint to be like 20 laps (or more on the odd occasion)then pit when you want.

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