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medal 5505
2 years 87 days ago
I think we should not be restricted to qualify on the starting tyre. All qualify times should be done on same tyres and users can choose what tyre they start on. 
I think this way it will open up more possibilities for strategies.
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medal 5728
2 years 87 days ago

Maikhar
I think we should not be restricted to qualify on the starting tyre. All qualify times should be done on same tyres and users can choose what tyre they start on. 
I think this way it will open up more possibilities for strategies.


It will open up the possibility of everyone on soft tyres to be stuck behind a heavy car on med tyres. Which ruins races

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medal 4985 Moderator
2 years 86 days ago
Yes, soft tyres would have the same problem the strategy of starting on light fuel has now. The risk being stuck behind a car is too high to be worth trying. The only really viable strategy would be starting with the hardest competitively usable compound. Anyone starting behind on softer tyres is instantly out of the competition and anyone managing to start on front is likely to be alone and suffering from less DRS gains.

That's the reason many even wish Qualifying could be run with first stint (+Qualifying amount) fuel weight.
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medal 5505
2 years 85 days ago
But this takes away the advantage a faster car has in qualifying. And with no refuelling we cannot separate first stint fuel weight
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medal 5056
2 years 83 days ago

Antonio

Maikhar
I think we should not be restricted to qualify on the starting tyre. All qualify times should be done on same tyres and users can choose what tyre they start on. 
I think this way it will open up more possibilities for strategies.


It will open up the possibility of everyone on soft tyres to be stuck behind a heavy car on med tyres. Which ruins races




Not always so 
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medal 5728
2 years 83 days ago

Sergiy

Antonio

Maikhar
I think we should not be restricted to qualify on the starting tyre. All qualify times should be done on same tyres and users can choose what tyre they start on. 
I think this way it will open up more possibilities for strategies.


It will open up the possibility of everyone on soft tyres to be stuck behind a heavy car on med tyres. Which ruins races




Not always so 


No not always but it would cause a lot of nagging, complaining and you don’t want that as a permanent feature


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medal 5056
2 years 82 days ago

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Maikhar
I think we should not be restricted to qualify on the starting tyre. All qualify times should be done on same tyres and users can choose what tyre they start on. 
I think this way it will open up more possibilities for strategies.


It will open up the possibility of everyone on soft tyres to be stuck behind a heavy car on med tyres. Which ruins races




Not always so 


No not always but it would cause a lot of nagging, complaining and you don’t want that as a permanent feature




Can I clarify the complaints from whom?
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medal 5728
2 years 82 days ago

Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Maikhar
I think we should not be restricted to qualify on the starting tyre. All qualify times should be done on same tyres and users can choose what tyre they start on. 
I think this way it will open up more possibilities for strategies.


It will open up the possibility of everyone on soft tyres to be stuck behind a heavy car on med tyres. Which ruins races




Not always so 


No not always but it would cause a lot of nagging, complaining and you don’t want that as a permanent feature




Can I clarify the complaints from whom?


Really Sergiy? Just read the complaints about wet races and people stuck behind a heavier car and imagine that times 10. Cause not only would you get stuck behind a heavier car, you would get stuck behind a heavy car on a harder compound

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medal 5056
2 years 82 days ago

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Maikhar
I think we should not be restricted to qualify on the starting tyre. All qualify times should be done on same tyres and users can choose what tyre they start on. 
I think this way it will open up more possibilities for strategies.


It will open up the possibility of everyone on soft tyres to be stuck behind a heavy car on med tyres. Which ruins races




Not always so 


No not always but it would cause a lot of nagging, complaining and you don’t want that as a permanent feature




Can I clarify the complaints from whom?


Really Sergiy? Just read the complaints about wet races and people stuck behind a heavier car and imagine that times 10. Cause not only would you get stuck behind a heavier car, you would get stuck behind a heavy car on a harder compound






Are you serious? Stuck behind a heavy machine? In the rain? Is it a joke? Have you forgotten about the battery(also called kers)? And on dry, with different tires, especially there should be no problems, but if you still can not pass someone in this situation, then this is already a problem of your staff, and the car.
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medal 5728
2 years 82 days ago (Last edited by Antonio Ascari 2 years 82 days ago)
Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Maikhar
I think we should not be restricted to qualify on the starting tyre. All qualify times should be done on same tyres and users can choose what tyre they start on. 
I think this way it will open up more possibilities for strategies.


It will open up the possibility of everyone on soft tyres to be stuck behind a heavy car on med tyres. Which ruins races




Not always so 


No not always but it would cause a lot of nagging, complaining and you don’t want that as a permanent feature




Can I clarify the complaints from whom?


Really Sergiy? Just read the complaints about wet races and people stuck behind a heavier car and imagine that times 10. Cause not only would you get stuck behind a heavier car, you would get stuck behind a heavy car on a harder compound






Are you serious? Stuck behind a heavy machine? In the rain? Is it a joke? Have you forgotten about the battery(also called kers)? And on dry, with different tires, especially there should be no problems, but if you still can not pass someone in this situation, then this is already a problem of your staff, and the car.


I’m not talking about me, I don’t complain about getting stuck. I know about using boost. Others don’t and they complain, if you don’t believe me, search for it, you’ll find plenty

The suggestion made here would only increase the number of complaints (not saying I would complain, am I clear?) because it would allow medium tyre runners to qualify in front and in essence, block all cars behind it, rendering their intended strategies useless

Now let’s talk about you then, I don’t know if you have ever had a race where you qualify on softs but in lap 1 get overtaken by a few drivers on medium tyres?
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medal 5056
2 years 80 days ago

Antonio
Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Maikhar
I think we should not be restricted to qualify on the starting tyre. All qualify times should be done on same tyres and users can choose what tyre they start on. 
I think this way it will open up more possibilities for strategies.


It will open up the possibility of everyone on soft tyres to be stuck behind a heavy car on med tyres. Which ruins races




Not always so 


No not always but it would cause a lot of nagging, complaining and you don’t want that as a permanent feature




Can I clarify the complaints from whom?


Really Sergiy? Just read the complaints about wet races and people stuck behind a heavier car and imagine that times 10. Cause not only would you get stuck behind a heavier car, you would get stuck behind a heavy car on a harder compound






Are you serious? Stuck behind a heavy machine? In the rain? Is it a joke? Have you forgotten about the battery(also called kers)? And on dry, with different tires, especially there should be no problems, but if you still can not pass someone in this situation, then this is already a problem of your staff, and the car.


I’m not talking about me, I don’t complain about getting stuck. I know about using boost. Others don’t and they complain, if you don’t believe me, search for it, you’ll find plenty

The suggestion made here would only increase the number of complaints (not saying I would complain, am I clear?) because it would allow medium tyre runners to qualify in front and in essence, block all cars behind it, rendering their intended strategies useless

Now let’s talk about you then, I don’t know if you have ever had a race where you qualify on softs but in lap 1 get overtaken by a few drivers on medium tyres?


Maybe, but I don't think so. 


Count me, in all three years that I play this has never happened, and I quite often put the soft at the start. The medium is simply too slow to overtake soft. This is if possible, then if either a weaker team or a significant difference in fuel, but not under equal conditions. 
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medal 5728
2 years 79 days ago

Sergiy

Antonio
Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Maikhar
I think we should not be restricted to qualify on the starting tyre. All qualify times should be done on same tyres and users can choose what tyre they start on. 
I think this way it will open up more possibilities for strategies.


It will open up the possibility of everyone on soft tyres to be stuck behind a heavy car on med tyres. Which ruins races




Not always so 


No not always but it would cause a lot of nagging, complaining and you don’t want that as a permanent feature




Can I clarify the complaints from whom?


Really Sergiy? Just read the complaints about wet races and people stuck behind a heavier car and imagine that times 10. Cause not only would you get stuck behind a heavier car, you would get stuck behind a heavy car on a harder compound






Are you serious? Stuck behind a heavy machine? In the rain? Is it a joke? Have you forgotten about the battery(also called kers)? And on dry, with different tires, especially there should be no problems, but if you still can not pass someone in this situation, then this is already a problem of your staff, and the car.


I’m not talking about me, I don’t complain about getting stuck. I know about using boost. Others don’t and they complain, if you don’t believe me, search for it, you’ll find plenty

The suggestion made here would only increase the number of complaints (not saying I would complain, am I clear?) because it would allow medium tyre runners to qualify in front and in essence, block all cars behind it, rendering their intended strategies useless

Now let’s talk about you then, I don’t know if you have ever had a race where you qualify on softs but in lap 1 get overtaken by a few drivers on medium tyres?


Maybe, but I don't think so. 


Count me, in all three years that I play this has never happened, and I quite often put the soft at the start. The medium is simply too slow to overtake soft. This is if possible, then if either a weaker team or a significant difference in fuel, but not under equal conditions. 


Well I can tell you, I’ve seen it happen multiple times in opening lap in project Leyendas (no weak teams in there) and when it does, it frustrates those getting stuck behind the medium-runners. All soft runners less fuel then meds runners.
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medal 5056
2 years 79 days ago

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio
Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Maikhar
I think we should not be restricted to qualify on the starting tyre. All qualify times should be done on same tyres and users can choose what tyre they start on. 
I think this way it will open up more possibilities for strategies.


It will open up the possibility of everyone on soft tyres to be stuck behind a heavy car on med tyres. Which ruins races




Not always so 


No not always but it would cause a lot of nagging, complaining and you don’t want that as a permanent feature




Can I clarify the complaints from whom?


Really Sergiy? Just read the complaints about wet races and people stuck behind a heavier car and imagine that times 10. Cause not only would you get stuck behind a heavier car, you would get stuck behind a heavy car on a harder compound






Are you serious? Stuck behind a heavy machine? In the rain? Is it a joke? Have you forgotten about the battery(also called kers)? And on dry, with different tires, especially there should be no problems, but if you still can not pass someone in this situation, then this is already a problem of your staff, and the car.


I’m not talking about me, I don’t complain about getting stuck. I know about using boost. Others don’t and they complain, if you don’t believe me, search for it, you’ll find plenty

The suggestion made here would only increase the number of complaints (not saying I would complain, am I clear?) because it would allow medium tyre runners to qualify in front and in essence, block all cars behind it, rendering their intended strategies useless

Now let’s talk about you then, I don’t know if you have ever had a race where you qualify on softs but in lap 1 get overtaken by a few drivers on medium tyres?


Maybe, but I don't think so. 


Count me, in all three years that I play this has never happened, and I quite often put the soft at the start. The medium is simply too slow to overtake soft. This is if possible, then if either a weaker team or a significant difference in fuel, but not under equal conditions. 


Well I can tell you, I’ve seen it happen multiple times in opening lap in project Leyendas (no weak teams in there) and when it does, it frustrates those getting stuck behind the medium-runners. All soft runners less fuel then meds runners.



So they're not that fast anymore. 
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medal 5728
2 years 79 days ago

Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio
Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Maikhar
I think we should not be restricted to qualify on the starting tyre. All qualify times should be done on same tyres and users can choose what tyre they start on. 
I think this way it will open up more possibilities for strategies.


It will open up the possibility of everyone on soft tyres to be stuck behind a heavy car on med tyres. Which ruins races




Not always so 


No not always but it would cause a lot of nagging, complaining and you don’t want that as a permanent feature




Can I clarify the complaints from whom?


Really Sergiy? Just read the complaints about wet races and people stuck behind a heavier car and imagine that times 10. Cause not only would you get stuck behind a heavier car, you would get stuck behind a heavy car on a harder compound






Are you serious? Stuck behind a heavy machine? In the rain? Is it a joke? Have you forgotten about the battery(also called kers)? And on dry, with different tires, especially there should be no problems, but if you still can not pass someone in this situation, then this is already a problem of your staff, and the car.


I’m not talking about me, I don’t complain about getting stuck. I know about using boost. Others don’t and they complain, if you don’t believe me, search for it, you’ll find plenty

The suggestion made here would only increase the number of complaints (not saying I would complain, am I clear?) because it would allow medium tyre runners to qualify in front and in essence, block all cars behind it, rendering their intended strategies useless

Now let’s talk about you then, I don’t know if you have ever had a race where you qualify on softs but in lap 1 get overtaken by a few drivers on medium tyres?


Maybe, but I don't think so. 


Count me, in all three years that I play this has never happened, and I quite often put the soft at the start. The medium is simply too slow to overtake soft. This is if possible, then if either a weaker team or a significant difference in fuel, but not under equal conditions. 


Well I can tell you, I’ve seen it happen multiple times in opening lap in project Leyendas (no weak teams in there) and when it does, it frustrates those getting stuck behind the medium-runners. All soft runners less fuel then meds runners.



So they're not that fast anymore. 


Sure, you’re the best igp player we all know. So I invite you to join Leyendas next season, should be very easy for you to win it. Or you too chicken to accept?
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medal 5000
2 years 79 days ago
If you have never seen a harder compound overtake a softer compound in lap 1, then it's not iGP you've been playing for the last three years ?. Either that or your league just isn't competitive enough.
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medal 5056
2 years 79 days ago

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio
Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Sergiy

Antonio

Maikhar
I think we should not be restricted to qualify on the starting tyre. All qualify times should be done on same tyres and users can choose what tyre they start on. 
I think this way it will open up more possibilities for strategies.


It will open up the possibility of everyone on soft tyres to be stuck behind a heavy car on med tyres. Which ruins races




Not always so 


No not always but it would cause a lot of nagging, complaining and you don’t want that as a permanent feature




Can I clarify the complaints from whom?


Really Sergiy? Just read the complaints about wet races and people stuck behind a heavier car and imagine that times 10. Cause not only would you get stuck behind a heavier car, you would get stuck behind a heavy car on a harder compound






Are you serious? Stuck behind a heavy machine? In the rain? Is it a joke? Have you forgotten about the battery(also called kers)? And on dry, with different tires, especially there should be no problems, but if you still can not pass someone in this situation, then this is already a problem of your staff, and the car.


I’m not talking about me, I don’t complain about getting stuck. I know about using boost. Others don’t and they complain, if you don’t believe me, search for it, you’ll find plenty

The suggestion made here would only increase the number of complaints (not saying I would complain, am I clear?) because it would allow medium tyre runners to qualify in front and in essence, block all cars behind it, rendering their intended strategies useless

Now let’s talk about you then, I don’t know if you have ever had a race where you qualify on softs but in lap 1 get overtaken by a few drivers on medium tyres?


Maybe, but I don't think so. 


Count me, in all three years that I play this has never happened, and I quite often put the soft at the start. The medium is simply too slow to overtake soft. This is if possible, then if either a weaker team or a significant difference in fuel, but not under equal conditions. 


Well I can tell you, I’ve seen it happen multiple times in opening lap in project Leyendas (no weak teams in there) and when it does, it frustrates those getting stuck behind the medium-runners. All soft runners less fuel then meds runners.



So they're not that fast anymore. 


Sure, you’re the best igp player we all know. So I invite you to join Leyendas next season, should be very easy for you to win it. Or you too chicken to accept?



Who would doubt that you will write this, and thank you for the proposal, but in my plans there is no such point
Archie
If you have never seen a harder compound overtake a softer compound in lap 1, then it's not iGP you've been playing for the last three years ?. Either that or your league just isn't competitive enough.


Who would say?
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medal 5728
2 years 79 days ago
Anyway Sergiy hasn’t changed my mind, I’m not in favour of this suggestion 
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