car level limit

Eric Boutin
1 year 278 days ago

i suggest that there be a car level limit so that he some players want to enter a league if they have a too high level they wont be able to. i see that too many players have level 20 everywhere and it makes the game very boring for new players who have no chance to win. it also cause problems regarding reputation going down and money lost each race. there should be leagies for beginners and limits regarding player levels.

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Dario Jp
1 year 278 days ago

Eric

i suggest that there be a car level limit so that he some players want to enter a league if they have a too high level they wont be able to. i see that too many players have level 20 everywhere and it makes the game very boring for new players who have no chance to win. it also cause problems regarding reputation going down and money lost each race. there should be leagies for beginners and limits regarding player levels.

Bro that's what the league tiers are for.. rookie, pro and elite

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John Doe
1 year 278 days ago

Dario

Eric

i suggest that there be a car level limit so that he some players want to enter a league if they have a too high level they wont be able to. i see that too many players have level 20 everywhere and it makes the game very boring for new players who have no chance to win. it also cause problems regarding reputation going down and money lost each race. there should be leagies for beginners and limits regarding player levels.

Bro that's what the league tiers are for.. rookie, pro and elite

You are just another level 20 that does not want to understand. The gap level 14-20 is huge and most of the new promoted players are likely 9-11. This destroys their morale and they don't enjoy the game anymore.

This brings the game to a slow death. Level 20 players (who have collected 999999 tokens and won't put a penny on this game) cry because the game is flat, boring and leave the game, new players (who are those who are willing to pay) will leave the game because it doesn't matter what strategy you will do, you will lose because your DRS and boost are too weak.

There are have been many suggestions to restructure leagues because we all know is a critic area and nothing has been done.

The new 10 levels will kill the game at a faster pace than now.

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Dick Dastardly
1 year 278 days ago (Last edited by Dick Dastardly 1 year 277 days ago)

Giovanni

Dario

Eric

i suggest that there be a car level limit so that he some players want to enter a league if they have a too high level they wont be able to. i see that too many players have level 20 everywhere and it makes the game very boring for new players who have no chance to win. it also cause problems regarding reputation going down and money lost each race. there should be leagies for beginners and limits regarding player levels.

Bro that's what the league tiers are for.. rookie, pro and elite

You are just another level 20 that does not want to understand. The gap level 14-20 is huge and most of the new promoted players are likely 9-11. This destroys their morale and they don't enjoy the game anymore.

This brings the game to a slow death. Level 20 players (who have collected 999999 tokens and won't put a penny on this game) cry because the game is flat, boring and leave the game, new players (who are those who are willing to pay) will leave the game because it doesn't matter what strategy you will do, you will lose because your DRS and boost are too weak.

There are have been many suggestions to restructure leagues because we all know is a critic area and nothing has been done.

The new 10 levels will kill the game at a faster pace than now.

Several level 20 players have suggested implementing level caps so that lower to mid tiers players do not get promoted to Elite too quickly, but it’s normally criticised by lower level players and ignored by iGP. The existing tier/league structure is broken and an overhaul is long overdue.

Also, please provide your evidence that level 20 players have 999999 tokens and won’t put a penny into the game while new players are willing to pay? By that logic all level 20 players have already paid their dues.

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Dario Jp
1 year 278 days ago (Last edited by Dario Jp 1 year 278 days ago)

Giovanni

Dario

Eric

i suggest that there be a car level limit so that he some players want to enter a league if they have a too high level they wont be able to. i see that too many players have level 20 everywhere and it makes the game very boring for new players who have no chance to win. it also cause problems regarding reputation going down and money lost each race. there should be leagies for beginners and limits regarding player levels.

Bro that's what the league tiers are for.. rookie, pro and elite

You are just another level 20 that does not want to understand. The gap level 14-20 is huge and most of the new promoted players are likely 9-11. This destroys their morale and they don't enjoy the game anymore.

This brings the game to a slow death. Level 20 players (who have collected 999999 tokens and won't put a penny on this game) cry because the game is flat, boring and leave the game, new players (who are those who are willing to pay) will leave the game because it doesn't matter what strategy you will do, you will lose because your DRS and boost are too weak.

There are have been many suggestions to restructure leagues because we all know is a critic area and nothing has been done.

The new 10 levels will kill the game at a faster pace than now.

Top tip, level 18 manager is faster and better than a level 20. Fact. However, the added levels will destroy the game and will become the second biggest flop behind 3D simply because the tiers are broken you're right. All that will happen is low level managers will suffer. Devs always add stuff without thinking, like SC and yellow flag. For the 10 levels their should have been a restructure to the tiers but that's not happening. We will just have to wait and see I guess.

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Eric Boutin
1 year 278 days ago

happy to see that some agree with me that theres a problem with the leagues. having amateur pro and elite dont solve the problem. someone with a low car level can promote anyway. i do not have the solution but something should be done so that leagues are more balanced to give some challenge and competition. maybe give the league manager the option to set a maximum level for the cars and drivers ? i dont know but something should be done.

i had to change league several times because i just keep lose reputation and money in many races. the game ask to finish like 6th position while theres 10 cars with level 20 and level 20 drivers or something ahead of me so its just not right. thats an issue also. why does the game ask you to finish in such a high position in the races when your level is lower than everyone else ? i dont understand.

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Dario Jp
1 year 278 days ago

Eric

happy to see that some agree with me that theres a problem with the leagues. having amateur pro and elite dont solve the problem. someone with a low car level can promote anyway. i do not have the solution but something should be done so that leagues are more balanced to give some challenge and competition. maybe give the league manager the option to set a maximum level for the cars and drivers ? i dont know but something should be done.

i had to change league several times because i just keep lose reputation and money in many races. the game ask to finish like 6th position while theres 10 cars with level 20 and level 20 drivers or something ahead of me so its just not right. thats an issue also. why does the game ask you to finish in such a high position in the races when your level is lower than everyone else ? i dont understand.

Whilst I do not know the exact algorithm or how it determines where you should place, but what I think is it's based on the last race result.

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Archie Bald
1 year 277 days ago

Dario

Giovanni

Dario

Eric

i suggest that there be a car level limit so that he some players want to enter a league if they have a too high level they wont be able to. i see that too many players have level 20 everywhere and it makes the game very boring for new players who have no chance to win. it also cause problems regarding reputation going down and money lost each race. there should be leagies for beginners and limits regarding player levels.

Bro that's what the league tiers are for.. rookie, pro and elite

You are just another level 20 that does not want to understand. The gap level 14-20 is huge and most of the new promoted players are likely 9-11. This destroys their morale and they don't enjoy the game anymore.

This brings the game to a slow death. Level 20 players (who have collected 999999 tokens and won't put a penny on this game) cry because the game is flat, boring and leave the game, new players (who are those who are willing to pay) will leave the game because it doesn't matter what strategy you will do, you will lose because your DRS and boost are too weak.

There are have been many suggestions to restructure leagues because we all know is a critic area and nothing has been done.

The new 10 levels will kill the game at a faster pace than now.

Top tip, level 18 manager is faster and better than a level 20. Fact.

Top tip (in your words) If a level 18 is beating a level 20, the level 20 is doing many things wrong and the level 18 many things right.

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Dario Jp
1 year 277 days ago

Archie

Dario

Giovanni

Dario

Eric

i suggest that there be a car level limit so that he some players want to enter a league if they have a too high level they wont be able to. i see that too many players have level 20 everywhere and it makes the game very boring for new players who have no chance to win. it also cause problems regarding reputation going down and money lost each race. there should be leagies for beginners and limits regarding player levels.

Bro that's what the league tiers are for.. rookie, pro and elite

You are just another level 20 that does not want to understand. The gap level 14-20 is huge and most of the new promoted players are likely 9-11. This destroys their morale and they don't enjoy the game anymore.

This brings the game to a slow death. Level 20 players (who have collected 999999 tokens and won't put a penny on this game) cry because the game is flat, boring and leave the game, new players (who are those who are willing to pay) will leave the game because it doesn't matter what strategy you will do, you will lose because your DRS and boost are too weak.

There are have been many suggestions to restructure leagues because we all know is a critic area and nothing has been done.

The new 10 levels will kill the game at a faster pace than now.

Top tip, level 18 manager is faster and better than a level 20. Fact.

Top tip (in your words) If a level 18 is beating a level 20, the level 20 is doing many things wrong and the level 18 many things right.

Wrong.. it's because you get more DP then a level 20
For some reason your car develops faster.

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Kevin Bissell Super Mod
1 year 277 days ago

Dario

Wrong.. it's because you get more DP then a level 20

For some reason your car develops faster.

Assuming maxed out Design HQ, CD and TD, as a L20 Manager CURRENTLY you receive 20dp per race from your Design HQ and 40% research power.

As a L18 Manager you only receive 18dp per race from your Design HQ but have 46% research power.

So, for a L18 Manager to develop a car faster than a L20 they need that extra research power to equate to an average of more than 2dp per race. Design will always be affected by how other managers in the league develop their cars, but in my experience the speed of design between L18 and L20 is much the same, but the L20 has the advantage of choosing where they assign their extra 2dp per race whereas the L18 is relying on researching what others do.

Add to this the fact that a L20 Technology HQ gives slightly more Boost capacity and slightly stronger DRS and I still think the L20 has an advantage.

As an aside, it will be interesting to see what happens to research with the extra 10 levels. Unless this has been very carefully thought through I see the potential for some real issues.

Going back to the original post, I agree that low level managers promoting to Elite is a bad thing but I disagree with allowing hosts to limit the level of teams in the Elite tier. A better approach (if we have to keep the current tier system) would be to prevent promotion to Elite until a team reaches at least L16. This would prevent low level teams being matched against L20 teams and would have the added advantage of keeping teams in Pro for longer thus making the lower tiers more active.

Ultimately though, the entire league system needs a serious overhaul to ensure active players at all levels can be competitive because surely this will result in better player retention.

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Wholly Crap
1 year 277 days ago

Surely the idea is to learn the game and gather experience from the top players.
Once I became an elite I purposely found a league that had 10k rep players to try and learn from them. I knew I'd never win but it was a huge learning curve and I got great pleasure if I could beat some and get some points.
If people are ending up in the elite tier at level 14 unless they are playing against bots will never win, but there are 31 cars on the grid that don't win either. The idea is to gradually level up, playing level 20 managers makes the process way faster than if you were playing with same level players.

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Dario Jp
1 year 277 days ago

There should be minimum level to enter elite, thus saying that many managers are eager to get into elite. Either was could result in players quitting. Frustration from coming last or staying in pro.

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