Im Done medal 5181 1 year 279 days ago
I did a setup using 2 tyre compounds in a 2 compound league i set tyres S,M,M it was raining when i setup and at the start of the race so i did 8 laps on full wets then mediums for the rest of the race and I've been disqualified for using 1 tyre type when i used 2.
Before the update if it rain at any point in the race and you used inters or wet they wasn't a tyre rule.
Im Done medal 5240 1 year 279 days ago
It was this account not the one i posted on the race was 13:30 uk time in Singapore 19/02/23
Michele medal 5000 1 year 279 days ago
qso you used the W and the M? if yes, it is because when the track is dry, 2 compounds are obligatorily used. the M is considered for dry. this is my guess
Kevin Bissell medal 5000 Super Mod 1 year 279 days ago
You say it was raining at the start of the race, are you sure? If the rain had stopped before the race actually started then even though the track would still have been wet, the way a wet race is currently defined means that it would have been considered a dry race.
Even though I personally disagree with the wet race definition I am surprised that so long after tyre rules were rolled out and after so many forum reports about this issue, people are still being caught out by it.
A wet race is defined as a race where it rains at some point between "lights-out" and "chequered flag". Just because the track is still wet because it was raining shortly before the race started DOES NOT count as a wet race. If it doesn't rain it's a dry race and if it's a dry race you must use two different DRY compounds. Inters and Wets will not count towards the two compounds.
Im Done medal 5240 1 year 279 days ago
I used 2 compounds using w,m,m,m so i adhered to the 2 tyre rule and my setup was s,m,m
Wets and inters should count as they did before the update
Kevin Bissell medal 5000 Super Mod 1 year 279 days ago
Like I said you need to use two different DRY compounds, Wets (and Inters) are not a dry compound, this is why you were DSQ.
Wets and Inters have never been counted as an eligible compound in league rules.
Mott Mottingham medal 5000 1 year 279 days ago
I don’t disagree with Kevin but I have never understood why Inters/Wets wouldn’t count.
For example in a 25% league with a two tyre rule. If it was bucketing down with rain(5mm) then stopped just prior to the race. A team might be required to use Wets then maybe onto inters. However if it didn’t start raining again they would then need to use two of either SS S M or H.
Not sure why Inters and wets can’t just be added to the tyres. No one would use them in dry races
Kevin Bissell medal 5000 Super Mod 1 year 279 days ago
The best solution would be to change the definition of a wet race. Currently it needs to rain at some point during the race, if it stops raining shortly before the race begins it is defined as a dry race so you are forced to use Inters in stint 1 but still need to use two dry compounds. If the definition of a wet race was changed to water level >0 at any point in the race the issue would be solved.
Treating Inters and Wets as an allowable compound would fix 95% of the problem but there would still be scenarios which would cause issues. For 100% and even 75% races where the race starts with a wet track you would start on Inters then switch to a dry compound... problem solved. But for short duration races the track may remain wet for the entire race so even treating the Inters and Wets as allowable compounds would cause problems because in this scenario the correct tyres would be all Inters.
Anyway, Mods and other volunteers have all made this point to the developer team and I know José reads all of these threads. They are aware of the issue but with limited resources it's a matter of prioritisation. All the Mods can do is keep banging the drum on your behalf and answer these threads with the standard response... For a dry race the rules state that you must use two different DRY compounds.
Tow Mater medal 5000 1 year 278 days ago
Kevin
If the definition of a wet race was changed to water level >0 at any point in the race the issue would be solved.
This is the way. Should have been that way from day 1.
