fuel numbers

why is this always wrong? every race it gives me bad fuel numbers and i end up running too many laps on my tires. then, if i take fuel out, i have to pit on the final lap and lose tons of spots. very annyoning. tips?

I've been playing with different settings for both drivers, and find that the fuel guide is correct if you run at hold position or lower settings, but when pushing I've needed at least 10% more fuel than estimated.  Tyre usage is still a mystery to me though, temperature control is my problem

Joseph, 115 races under your belt and you haven't figured the fuel usage out? Just look back at the last time you were at a track and see how much fuel you used in a lap. Multiply by the Laps you want to do....

Mark, what do you mean by usage is a mystery? What temp control issues are you having?

Greg, if I run the super softs and push hard they're glowing red after a lap or two, but the lap times don't seem to drop off that much and the life of the tyre doesn't seem to be any worse than ones that are light pink.  Hopefully after another season I'll have got to grips with it and get my strategy working properly! :-)

Supersoft tyres are always the lowest push level except for Monaco. For soft, pretty much the same depending on the temperature but not more as push level 2 out of 5.

Well, not ALWAYS PL1, at the end of stints at most tracks you'll be on PL2 at the very least, and at Hungary is 2 at a push. 

If you keep same suppliers just check races from previous seasons and try to adjust between 0.5/1L.
Example :
- 42L / 2.6L > 40L
- add 1 more liter when close to 0.0 and for rain

And never trust your TD !
She always says 1 stop S13 > S13 is the best for Monza :D

I've never had to add an extra litre for the rain, and I frequently pit at 0.0L at races where I run on very tight fuel margins.

I'm guessing you are recommending this for the less experienced players?

True James. But to start off with it is very often a bad idea. :)

I remember when I was new to the game I would be on SS and full push, under the misconception that a higher push made the car go faster.

I didn't even understand that when the tyres turned red it was an indication of how much heat they had, and when I'd lose my shortlived lead I'd question how I went from 1st to 19th in a single race.

I miss my noob days...hahaha

I did that for my first 9 races, when I knew nothing about the game. If only I joined Magyar at the start of that season not the end, as really there was nobody else any good at the game. I COULD have won promotion, as my friend got a podium in his second race in Abu Dhabi when he also knew nothing.

@Blunion : Yes but not only. Personally I tend to finish stints between 0.1/0.5L, 0.0L is too risky and can occasionally result in out of fuel. It's true especially when starting from the back or when using very high PL (4/5), also don't forget that pit position can make a 0.1L difference from previous season (even 0.2L if car number 31/32 > 01/02). For the extra liter when raining it's due to the fact most of races are SS PL 1/2 when under wet conditions you are PL3/4, so this extra liter is often needed.

Oh and I forgot the most important part : Joseph, keep basic data such as fuel, tyres, push, temperature.

You don't REALLY need fuel and tyre data, as you can just look back on last seasons data for that. But push and temperature is very good need-to-know information and the correlation between them.

Also, remember if you are working out a strategy you have never done before, you may need to adjust fuel levels for different compounds. Say, it is a 29 lap race. Previously, you were on 28L at using 3.9-4.0L per lap through 7 laps. You used SS throughout out on 3-stops. If you want to mix stuff up and go on SS S S, 7 lap SS stint with 2 11s on S. You use 28 for the first stint, but for the 11's surely you'd need 16 more L at 44. But if you finished that first stint on 0.5L-, then you'd want to go for 45 to be safe and alright due to the higher pushes.

Hopefully that makes sense, and it is very rare you'd use a tyre harder than soft, though maybe mediums in a 100% race league.

Also factor in pits, as Joey mentioned. It can be quite hard to remember the order and location of the boxes, so I sketched and labelled each one.

PS the Valencia (Europe) pit lane is several seconds shorter than the the others and only costs you about 10-11 for a normal pit stop. The time you spend in the pits should help you decide the strategy you are doing.

I always put it up 1L in rain or if I finish on 0.2L or less. I do this because the time I ran out in Silverstone cost me both Magyar titles. As for rain, it depends how much I normally finish on and the track temp/push itself.

i didnt know that you could look at previous seasons at all until about a week ago

you can load last seasons setup too lol

i do know how to do that

@Blunion Can you explain this....

When my drivers where cars 1 & 2 I was able to use spot on amounts of fuel like yourself pitting with 0.0, 0.1 and 0.2 but now I'm lower down the grid it cant be done every time I try it I run out of fuel.
Is it one of the perks of having a world championship winning team you can skimp on fuel?

No, it's not a perk hahaha.

It depends on your suppliers and the push levels used throughout the race. I always want to run the lowest push level possible. There's a few variables that work for me that don't work for everybody else, especially the way I live manage tyres. :)

I have a big variable every season & that is the temperatures, one season meds will be between push 2-3 to keep them at optimal temp and the next time around they will be between push 3-4 because it is cooler this time around. That why I stopped taking notes, running out of writing space and weather is different every season :D