Dominik Photato medal 5000 12 years 322 days ago
I just had a race in Turkey. It was said to rain for the 1st 15 laps, after that it was \'mostly cloudy\' at 5°C.
The fastest lap held until the las lap and was driven in lap 5 on Full Wets!!!
As said it was supposed to be dry from lap 15 on, so another 14 laps. I drove 2 stints on softs and was barely able to reach that time at the end, though I had optimal tyre temperatures.
This makes absolutely no sense. In no universe Full Wets or Inters, while raining(!!!), could be faster than slicks on a dry or almost dry track.
Andrew Wiseman medal 5000 12 years 322 days ago
Thanks Dominik. I checked this race and see one bug. The track stayed only slightly wet until 10 minutes into the race (around lap 7). It should have been much more wet at the start of the race. So this partly explains why the time made on lap 5 was so good. Also, the track remained wet right until the end of the race (though it was drying). It stayed wet as a result of the ambient temperature, cloud cover and wind amount. So slicks would not have been so effective in this race even 15 minutes after it stopped raining.
Unknown medal 0 12 years 321 days ago
I noticed that full wets in thunderstorm conditions were only about 1 second slower then slicks in dry. intermediates were about 7 sec off the pace, which is alright
Armando Branca medal 5000 12 years 321 days ago
@Eric, humm, i don\'t think it is allright. When it\'s raiining a lot, in reality, depending on track, the difference is around 3sec and more.
Dominik Photato medal 5000 12 years 321 days ago
Ok, good to know... but shouldn\'t we see this info, too? I mean, as I do the strategy, I am supposed to be at the track, see the surface, get response from the driver and therefore know the track\'s condition. To see a misleading weather info ruins my strategy and makes the weather station absolutely useless, as I cannot count on the info being right.
Andrew Wiseman medal 5000 12 years 320 days ago
Yeah Dominik, this is the rationale behind the water spray visual we will be adding in the first quarterly update. I\'m sorry, but until then, you\'ll need to predict how wet the track is based on how much it has been raining.
Leon James medal 5000 12 years 320 days ago
What I have done so far is to split the strategies of my two cars. So I\'ll have one car come in and put on inters/wets/slicks and monitor the rate of tyre heating and sector times. Then use that information to determine what tyres to put the other car on.
This of course can compromise the race for the first car in. Fortunately one of my cars is usually more than a pitstop ahead of the nearest competitor.
Jack Basford medal 6098 
CEO & CTO 12 years 319 days ago
We just had something crazy going on in our race too, at Brazil. Hard tyres were just as fast in a thunderstorm as full wet tyres...
The problem seems to be that the track wear attribute is overriding the weather conditions. The full wet tyres were losing all effectiveness because they overheated even on back off. The hard tyres were kept in the optimal range by those teams using them, by using push hard. In the end the full wet tyres ended up about 2-3s per lap slower than the hard tyres in a thunderstorm, which is obviously totally counter-intuitive. The hard and soft slick tyres should have become completely useless the lap the thunderstorm hit, and been 10s+ off the pace.
Andrew Wiseman medal 5000 12 years 318 days ago
There was a similar issue in that race to what happened in Dominik's race. The track was only partly wet even in the middle of the thunderstorm. I can see why this happened and it needs a special set of events for it to happen. I'll get all of these issues sorted.
nick p medal 5000 12 years 306 days ago
Just had the same problem with full wets not being able to cool down when i pressed back off,they just stayed red,and this was in a thunderstorm.
