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medal 5000
7 years 186 days ago
I noticed that in race statistics some drivers with the highest speed have a speed of 350.00. No driver ever goes more that 350.00. That happens to every race so it seems that it is a limit reached. Is it supposed to be like that?
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medal 5000
7 years 186 days ago
Williams f1 team reached 378km/h (235mph) in Azerbaijan earlier in the year during qualifying, it's doable to go much faster than 350km/h but i don't know if that limit is there to make things fairer so some teams don't get an enormous advantage in straight line speeds that could stop superior handling cars from doing their thing or just so everyone has a chance to use their DRS and ERS systems to effect.
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medal 5000
7 years 186 days ago
Cars are likely doing over 350kph it's just the system only shows up to 212mph.
Does it really matter what the average speed is telling you? Car never clocks 350kph in the races.


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medal 5289 CEO & CTO
7 years 186 days ago
I've just put forward a proposal to raise this to 380kph.

It is actually capped at 350kph in the simulation at the moment, because that was the top speed in 2009. It has gone up since DRS and KERS were introduced, so we'll raise the top speed to reflect that. I have no idea when it will be done, there are many higher priority issues on Ricky's plate (the sim dev.).
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medal 5000
7 years 186 days ago
Jack
I've just put forward a proposal to raise this to 380kph.

It is actually capped at 350kph in the simulation at the moment, because that was the top speed in 2009. It has gone up since DRS and KERS were introduced, so we'll raise the top speed to reflect that. I have no idea when it will be done, there are many higher priority issues on Ricky's plate (the sim dev.).


Any chance of making it more realistic based on the type of track, perhaps tied into track characteristics and car setups?

i mean, the highest speed you are likely to find in Monaco is maybe 180mph in Monaco and adjusted setups that are suited to full wings and higher ride heights due to how bumpy and tight the track is, where as other tracks like Spa or Monza are lower ride heights and more skinny wings and so speeds are likely to be much much higher.

This could also be useful for more experimental setups as well that produce more speeds and less downforce that could make things a little more interesting instead of finding a specific driver setup which doesn't make much difference anyway.
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medal 5000
7 years 186 days ago (edited 7 years 186 days ago)
Well top speed in monaco should be 283kph/176mph & that is going through the tunnel, the start/finish straight top speed with DRS is 279kph/173mph
Reason being the car gets from A to B sooner with DRS open it doesn't have time to pick up speed.
Also the top average speed is 248kph/154mph with a lap time of 1:17.939
We have 239kph/148mph with a lap time of 1:25.001
Making the game have more realistic lap times just isn't that easy I would say.

Nobody noticed I mixed my mph with kph
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medal 5000
7 years 186 days ago
Jack
I've just put forward a proposal to raise this to 380kph.

It is actually capped at 350kph in the simulation at the moment, because that was the top speed in 2009. It has gone up since DRS and KERS were introduced, so we'll raise the top speed to reflect that. I have no idea when it will be done, there are many higher priority issues on Ricky's plate (the sim dev.).


Ok good to know, thanks!
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medal 5000
7 years 186 days ago
Having different top speeds for each track would be interesting.
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medal 5000
7 years 186 days ago
Ricky
Having different top speeds for each track would be interesting.


Nice idea. I found some track info if you want to use:)
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medal 5000
7 years 186 days ago (edited 7 years 186 days ago)
If your using Allianz Track Info
Valencia Street Track Circuit 315kph top speed
Istanbul Park Circuit 310kph top speed

If your looking for average top speeds just use F1.com http://www.formula1.com/en/results.html/2009/races/843/australia/fastest-laps.html
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medal 5000
7 years 185 days ago
James
If your using Allianz Track Info
Valencia Street Track Circuit 315kph top speed
Istanbul Park Circuit 310kph top speed

If your looking for average top speeds just use F1.com http://www.formula1.com/en/results.html/2009/races/843/australia/fastest-laps.html


Things have changed since 2009 and that information is no longer relevant, with the Mercedes power advantage on the straights, Istanbul could be reaching much higher speeds if F1 went back there, same with Valencia.

back then the ERS systems were not as advanced nor was there a good DRS system either, it was a blown device and they had diffuser technology battles going on.

i would imagine with the differences in Aero and tech and Mechanical side of things i bet those speeds could reach upwards of 330kph for Instanbul and 345-350kph for Valencia. But that is what we can assume as things have changed enough where no one is certain. But you can be sure that William F1 team have known to be the fastest thing in a straight line at some events and the speeds they record are unbelievable.

I don't know about you but i've never seen an F1 car go around Monaco in the current configuration and do 235mph, that would be beyond any sense of these physical laws and so on.

Next years cars are going to be more mechanically advanced due to the larger tyres as well, so the chances of faster cars are going to be a lot higher, so 380 kph / 235mph is around good enough and it should only be done at specific tracks.
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medal 5000
7 years 185 days ago
Jason
Next years cars are going to be more mechanically advanced due to the larger tyres as well, so the chances of faster cars are going to be a lot higher, so 380 kph / 235mph is around good enough and it should only be done at specific tracks.


About next year's cars they predict that they will be a bit slower in straight line speed due to the wider tyres creating more drag. On the other hand they will be exiting corners in higher speeds so maybe the top speed might be actually close to today's levels but almost certaintly not higher. So yes to be on the safe side 380kph is a good number from now on.
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medal 5000
7 years 185 days ago
Jason
James
If your using Allianz Track Info
Valencia Street Track Circuit 315kph top speed
Istanbul Park Circuit 310kph top speed

If your looking for average top speeds just use F1.com http://www.formula1.com/en/results.html/2009/races/843/australia/fastest-laps.html


Things have changed since 2009 and that information is no longer relevant, with the Mercedes power advantage on the straights, Istanbul could be reaching much higher speeds if F1 went back there, same with Valencia.


Things have changed yes, so has iGP.
2009 I think was still with fueling. Some teams had KERS not all.
2010 stopped re-fuel & DRS came in or was that 2011 was DRS.
They can use that info for low design cars then jump forward in time for more fuel efficient lap times.
It's a giving good guide for the differences in performance I thought. 100 point Fuel Economy to use, would be 2016 hybrid car?
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medal 5000
7 years 185 days ago
Sam
Ricky
Having different top speeds for each track would be interesting.


Nice idea. I found some track info if you want to use:)

James
If your using Allianz Track Info
Valencia Street Track Circuit 315kph top speed
Istanbul Park Circuit 310kph top speed

If your looking for average top speeds just use F1.com http://www.formula1.com/en/results.html/2009/races/843/australia/fastest-laps.html

Thanks for the links guys.

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medal 5000
7 years 185 days ago
Alexis
Jason
Next years cars are going to be more mechanically advanced due to the larger tyres as well, so the chances of faster cars are going to be a lot higher, so 380 kph / 235mph is around good enough and it should only be done at specific tracks.


About next year's cars they predict that they will be a bit slower in straight line speed due to the wider tyres creating more drag. On the other hand they will be exiting corners in higher speeds so maybe the top speed might be actually close to today's levels but almost certaintly not higher. So yes to be on the safe side 380kph is a good number from now on.


i wouldn't say that for certain, f1 designers are a crafty bunch, they can make some alterations within the regulations to find how to make cars faster. because they will be quicker in the corners that will snowball all the way through the straights.
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