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medal 5428
5 days ago
I think Engine pricing should be an automatic increase of 'x' amount above the 500k base for each level attained. It seems a bit strange to be offering up LVL 30 engines for 500k when people are trying to sell lower level engines for 500k.. may as well make them all 500k and be done with it. 
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medal 5399
4 days ago

Chris
I think Engine pricing should be an automatic increase of 'x' amount above the 500k base for each level attained. It seems a bit strange to be offering up LVL 30 engines for 500k when people are trying to sell lower level engines for 500k.. may as well make them all 500k and be done with it. 


And what purpose would that serve exactly? Why should someone be stopped from selling a Level 21 engine priced at 1mil. a race, a Level 30 engine priced at 500k a race or anything between the two extremes?


It should be the engine makers discretion, as it is. For example a maker may choose to price their Level 30 engine at 500k and attract more customers, but the caveat maybe that the engine strength / weakness per track is set per the maker's wishes.
On the other hand someone may opt to price their Level 28 at 1 million potentially attracting less customers, but offer their customers the desired strength / weakness on a per request basis via in game messaging or external communication methods.
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medal 5428
3 days ago

Fried

Chris
I think Engine pricing should be an automatic increase of 'x' amount above the 500k base for each level attained. It seems a bit strange to be offering up LVL 30 engines for 500k when people are trying to sell lower level engines for 500k.. may as well make them all 500k and be done with it. 


And what purpose would that serve exactly? Why should someone be stopped from selling a Level 21 engine priced at 1mil. a race, a Level 30 engine priced at 500k a race or anything between the two extremes?


It should be the engine makers discretion, as it is. For example a maker may choose to price their Level 30 engine at 500k and attract more customers, but the caveat maybe that the engine strength / weakness per track is set per the maker's wishes.
On the other hand someone may opt to price their Level 28 at 1 million potentially attracting less customers, but offer their customers the desired strength / weakness on a per request basis via in game messaging or external communication methods.


How does one alter engine stats for each individual customer? Is this a new feature?  

Virtually every engine is being sold at 500k and there is no trade off. Advertise lvl 28 engine for 500k and then someone advertises a lvl 30 for 500k immediately after. Oh wait i just saw an engine advertised for $600. Now that's really cheap lol. 
 

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medal 5399
3 days ago

Chris
How does one alter engine stats for each individual customer? Is this a new feature?


Not sure if you’re being deliberately obtuse here, but a) Not all customers may race on the same circuit on a given day, so setting different strengths for different circuits is definitely a feature that can be used. b) if different customers are racing on the same circuit on a given day in different timeslots, I'd alter the engine after one of them has finished their race.

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medal 5428
3 days ago

Fried

Chris
How does one alter engine stats for each individual customer? Is this a new feature?


Not sure if you’re being deliberately obtuse here, but a) Not all customers may race on the same circuit on a given day, so setting different strengths for different circuits is definitely a feature that can be used. b) if different customers are racing on the same circuit on a given day in different timeslots, I'd alter the engine after one of them has finished their race.




I'm doubting that anyone that has 10 customers in different leagues with different times is going to bother doing this. If it was done so that the contract was different which each customer I'd be charging those that wanted me to change it every race $1mil, not 500k. As for obtuse.. i don't see why that needed but you did say "I'd" as in "I would", not "I do.." so i seriously doubt you do it either. 
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medal 5860
3 days ago

Chris

Fried

Chris
How does one alter engine stats for each individual customer? Is this a new feature?


Not sure if you’re being deliberately obtuse here, but a) Not all customers may race on the same circuit on a given day, so setting different strengths for different circuits is definitely a feature that can be used. b) if different customers are racing on the same circuit on a given day in different timeslots, I'd alter the engine after one of them has finished their race.




I'm doubting that anyone that has 10 customers in different leagues with different times is going to bother doing this. If it was done so that the contract was different which each customer I'd be charging those that wanted me to change it every race $1mil, not 500k. As for obtuse.. i don't see why that needed but you did say "I'd" as in "I would", not "I do.." so i seriously doubt you do it either. 


Still, question remains: why would you stop people from asking the price they want? Free market, supply and demand, no?
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medal 5428
3 days ago

Slo

Chris

Fried

Chris
How does one alter engine stats for each individual customer? Is this a new feature?


Not sure if you’re being deliberately obtuse here, but a) Not all customers may race on the same circuit on a given day, so setting different strengths for different circuits is definitely a feature that can be used. b) if different customers are racing on the same circuit on a given day in different timeslots, I'd alter the engine after one of them has finished their race.




I'm doubting that anyone that has 10 customers in different leagues with different times is going to bother doing this. If it was done so that the contract was different which each customer I'd be charging those that wanted me to change it every race $1mil, not 500k. As for obtuse.. i don't see why that needed but you did say "I'd" as in "I would", not "I do.." so i seriously doubt you do it either. 


Still, question remains: why would you stop people from asking the price they want? Free market, supply and demand, no?



Where did i say i was stopping people? lol. Why do people insist on making things up. Go back and read what i said. 
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medal 5860
3 days ago (Last edited by Slo Bro 3 days ago)
Chris
I think Engine pricing should be an automatic increase of 'x' amount above the 500k base for each level attained. It seems a bit strange to be offering up LVL 30 engines for 500k when people are trying to sell lower level engines for 500k.. may as well make them all 500k and be done with it. 


This here mate, you want price to not be set freely but to be x above 500k. Automatic increases, seems obvious to me that equals stopping people from asking the price they want

So that’s not me making things up, that’s you making up the idea that people make things up 😉
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medal 5428
2 days ago (Last edited by Chris 'Iceman' Tones 2 days ago)
Slo
Chris
I think Engine pricing should be an automatic increase of 'x' amount above the 500k base for each level attained. It seems a bit strange to be offering up LVL 30 engines for 500k when people are trying to sell lower level engines for 500k.. may as well make them all 500k and be done with it. 


This here mate, you want price to not be set freely but to be x above 500k. Automatic increases, seems obvious to me that equals stopping people from asking the price they want

So that’s not me making things up, that’s you making up the idea that people make things up 😉


It's a base increase per level lol, what was so hard about understanding this? 

"Seems obvious to me that equals stopping people from asking the price they want"

Right so why can't i sell them for 400k? or 300k? or for free? Different prices for different customers? 
 
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medal 5860
2 days ago
Chris
Slo
Chris
I think Engine pricing should be an automatic increase of 'x' amount above the 500k base for each level attained. It seems a bit strange to be offering up LVL 30 engines for 500k when people are trying to sell lower level engines for 500k.. may as well make them all 500k and be done with it. 


This here mate, you want price to not be set freely but to be x above 500k. Automatic increases, seems obvious to me that equals stopping people from asking the price they want

So that’s not me making things up, that’s you making up the idea that people make things up 😉


It's a base increase per level lol, what was so hard about understanding this? 

"Seems obvious to me that equals stopping people from asking the price they want"

Right so why can't i sell them for 400k? or 300k? or for free? Different prices for different customers? 
 


Instead of mocking me for not understanding, explain it mate, give me examples.

This is probably very clear in your head but I can’t see in your head
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medal 5537
2 days ago
Example base prices from what I understand from OP:

L30: 500
L29: 400
L28: 300...

Basically preventing L30 from taking over the market totally. It's not a bad idea. You get to make a choice, quality vs price.
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medal 5000
2 days ago (Last edited by Dick Dastardly 2 days ago)
Chris
Slo
Chris
I think Engine pricing should be an automatic increase of 'x' amount above the 500k base for each level attained. It seems a bit strange to be offering up LVL 30 engines for 500k when people are trying to sell lower level engines for 500k.. may as well make them all 500k and be done with it. 


This here mate, you want price to not be set freely but to be x above 500k. Automatic increases, seems obvious to me that equals stopping people from asking the price they want

So that’s not me making things up, that’s you making up the idea that people make things up 😉


It's a base increase per level lol, what was so hard about understanding this? 

"Seems obvious to me that equals stopping people from asking the price they want"

Right so why can't i sell them for 400k? or 300k? or for free? Different prices for different customers? 
 



Should anyone be prevented from charging the price they want?  What it is bad about that?  Customers have the choice of what they want to pay and who they choose to buy from.  Whether you like or not you are trying to dictate what anyone can charge even if that is not your intention.

If it’s a choice between $500k for a level 28 engine or a million for a level 30 then 95% will go for the level 30 so I don’t believe your suggestion would make any difference.


Altering engine stats for each customers races is not a new feature and could be done from day 1, although not many will want to do it as it is time consuming and puts a lot obligations on the manufacturer to be constantly making the changes.
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medal 5860
2 days ago
Ok, I see you mean base price, so level 30 in the 500k - 1M range, level 29 in the 400k to 900k range, …

2 things to consider:

Lower base price cuts into manufacturer profits (is it sustainable to have less profit at a level where less clients are allowed)

Level 26 and 27 do the same, it both gains you +13 as level 27 is strenght +27 and weakness -14. So maybe make it diminish per 2 levels

It’s not a bad suggestion, not my cup of tea though, I like free market better as indeed a level 28 manager could have an engine worth its money (Fried Rice’s argument)
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