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medal 5000
7 years 267 days ago
Hello guys, I would like to ask something about tyres: at which temperature the tyres perform better, letting the cars doing better lap times? When the lever is in the middle between the red zone and blue zone, or when it is a little bit (or half) in the red zone?

I'm asking this because I'm curious to know how to maximize the performances of my drivers!
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medal 5000
7 years 267 days ago
That is debatable.

Being in the grey zone should be faster than being in the red or blue, but you can get away with having tyres a little warm, it's good for when tyre gets 60% worn the tyre temp will drop to the grey zone, at 70% it will drop towards the blue zone, so you need to start pushing harder but you also need to keep an eye on the fuel usage.

You just have to play around with it and see how things go, you never have two races the same when it comes to tyre temps, even if it is the same track and weather
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medal 5000
7 years 266 days ago
Thank you for the answer! I used to keep it in the red zone (not the maximum obviously) because I always thought that warmer tyres perform better. Now I'm going to listen your advice and check it out. It's difficult to find the perfect balance!
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medal 5102
7 years 266 days ago
Where's the grey zone?
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medal 5000
7 years 266 days ago (edited 7 years 266 days ago)
The grey zone is the sweet spot between the blue and the red zone.

The tyres are supposed to work best in the grey zone, but in reality it's hard to tell where in the red the tyres start to get worse. So far it seems to me that the speed gained due to the higher push level outweights the weakening tyres until somewhere between 1/3rd and half into the red zone although track, conditions and car play a role there so it's not constant. Trouble is you don't have any reserves if you'd like some extra push and once you overdid it, or think you did, you're screwed because cooling the tyres usually costs more than you gained in the first place, and with going on it's often the same if no pit stop comes to your rescue soon enough.

Additionally bear in mind you may have to switch push level back to stop the tyres overheating further and then it might be too late and while you merely keep the temp your tyres are already slowing your car down more during the rest of the stint, or until wear cools, than you gained by the time run on higher push.
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medal 5000
7 years 265 days ago
I think Tyre Economy messes things up or it's just my drivers in the other account are that slow they can push harder than the drivers in this account lol

This account TE is 50+
Other account TE is 1
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medal 5000
7 years 265 days ago
I think it's the speed, during DRS and KERS the tyre temp quite often goes up as well. Doesn't change the fact that I have no idea if either TE isn't actually supposed to do what I understood it should do, it just doesn't really work as intended/expected or the effect is just so small that I fail to really notice it at all.
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medal 5000
7 years 265 days ago (edited 7 years 265 days ago)
Super softs is the main tyre it looks after, 1-43 SS is the only tyre that shows less wear in practice for me, the rest stay the same. Though in the race you can see small differences in wear rates, extending the life of medium and hard tyres has a bit of a down fall, as you have to wait longer before your able to push otherwise your just cooking the tyres and slowing yourself even more
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medal 5000
7 years 265 days ago (edited 7 years 265 days ago)
Yes, with hard and medium it's either they work for you on a given track, mostly while everyone on SS and S has to nurse their tyres, or you're screwed. You can't do anything about it except perhaps keep TE low. But you might screw yourself on all those tracks you just have to use the softer compounds.

The trouble with that little extra bit less wear rate is it doesn't often seem to result in a lap you can go extra, just a little bit more into a lap without hitting wear penalty if you choose to got that long. That's nice to have but I don't think it's worth it to really spend points on that, at least if you already got it in the two digits range. The important thing would have been keeping them super soft out of the red zone on warmer days and/or tracks with a little bit higher tyre stress and, even nicer perhaps, enabling the soft to actually run on something close to normal push especially on colder days or tracks easier to the tyre.
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medal 5000
7 years 264 days ago
The wear rates between tyres might be a wee bit off!


13% wear in 1 lap with SS means S does 2 laps to equal 13% and M does 3 laps to equal 13% so that would mean 4 laps for H to be 13% we dont seem to have that

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medal 5000
7 years 264 days ago
If it was supposed to be that then they are off since I started with the game. The difference was always slightly less than double the laps between the compounds, at least until the very max and with the push I would run them, so perhaps if running to 0 at comparable circumstances it's very likely exactly doubling the distance. With rounding errors taken into account that table fits that perfectly (13, 6.5>7, 3,25>3, 1.625>2).
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medal 5000
7 years 264 days ago (edited 7 years 264 days ago)
I'm going by how my own custom car setup in F1 2016, whatever percentage you get doing a single lap with the softest compound, the next step up matches it with 2laps and the next with 3laps. But I guess it's likely possible to set the car up to work better on one compound. Lap times though in F1 2016 dont have as much time difference, some tracks the softest and hardest tyre are only 0.093 apart lol

Here looks like setup has a say in the wear rates.



You can see the difference between 1 TE above & 83 TE from last night



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medal 5000
7 years 264 days ago
The thing with here, sure that's what we want is it not? Different cars with different compounds, any tyre should be able to work on any track, there should be no right or wrong tyre, unless it's wet. Keep Abu Dhabi as the example. Old, old days it was S & M track, old days it was SS & S track, 2016 it was US, SS & S track.
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