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reduced pit lane speed limit in iGP

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medal 5000
6 years 362 days ago
Currently most races here are between 104 - 118 km/h (64.4 - 73.3 mph) when driving in the pit-lane.

I would like to see us moving forward in time, like many other motorsports. The standard pit-lane limit of 100 km/h (62.1 mph) in place throughout qualifying sessions and races in earlier years, has seen drivers now restricted to a lower speed of 80 km/h (49.7 mph) for the duration of future Grand Prix weekends.

The Australian, Monaco and Singapore Grands Prix are the only races on the calendar with a continuing, stricter limit of 60 km/h (37.2 mph) due to the nature of the circuits.

So how about it? lets have a vote to lower pit-lane speeds to 70 km/h (43.4 mph) for all tracks in iGP.

YAY

or

NA

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medal 5000
6 years 362 days ago
YAY
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medal 5030
6 years 362 days ago
The amount of time in pits needs to be increased for sure as its always been to small amount of time in pit, all tracks are between 14-20 seconds time loss which in most cases is to short and some way way to short especially with re-fueling, i dont have facts but im sure most pit lane losses when u had re-fueling in real life was like 23-30 seconds loss approx, so im all for slowing them down as that would increase pit lane time alittle but i doubt it would be enough but better than nothing. would hinder the 6 stopper super soft strats alittle and force to use harder tyres so not so much sitting on 1/5 push level all race...
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medal 6122
6 years 362 days ago
I'll agree that pit lane speeds, if possible, should follow the current speed limits in F1.
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medal 5000
6 years 362 days ago
YAY i agree
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medal 5000
6 years 362 days ago (edited 6 years 362 days ago)
YAY YAY

Enzo there is not a big difference in old and new age pit stop times:

Australia - Massa:
(in 2016 60km/h limit)
21.550s tyres only

(in 2009 100km/h limit)
21.647s 20 laps of fuel & tyres
24.843s 27 laps of fuel & tyres
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medal 5000
6 years 362 days ago
I would be another supporter of this some races are just ridiculous with so many stops.
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medal 5000
6 years 358 days ago (edited 6 years 358 days ago)


Done a test.
Wolff used soft compound as the race tyre. 6 of the 7 stops she ran out of fuel in the pit-lane.
Wurz used medium as the race tyre. Had no issues
On the final lap i switched both drivers to very high, Wolff was pulling away opening out a big gap until she ran out of fuel, but that's not the point.
With 2 extra stops she shouldn't of been ahead in the first place

Practice (top) & Qualifying (bottom) Wurz is the faster driver

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medal 5577
6 years 358 days ago
Nay.

If pitstops are extended to cater for 100% races then it will have a negative effect on shorter races. As it is now, in 50% races, 1, 2 or even 3 stops (for a couple of tracks) are all viable. If stops are extended significantly then everyone will be on one stop.

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medal 5000
6 years 358 days ago
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Nay.

If pitstops are extended to cater for 100% races then it will have a negative effect on shorter races. As it is now, in 50% races, 1, 2 or even 3 stops (for a couple of tracks) are all viable. If stops are extended significantly then everyone will be on one stop.



But the pit-lane is the same length no matter what the race distance and tyres where to get extra wear in shorter races.
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medal 5000
6 years 357 days ago
I B is right and extra wear increases this 'problem'. The pit-lane is the same length for all race distances but longer pit times equals the requirement of longer stints to compensate for it if the time gaps between tyres are not increased. Which means lesser options for short race distances. Extra wear increases this because it means SS drop out of the viable selection even without longer pit times because their even fewer green laps are not able to outweight the pit times. So S take their position and the lap times of those are quite a lot closer to the times a hard tyre can do. So soft can't compensate more stops as good as super soft can. All there remains would be fuel weight but with 9-10 seconds more time lost pitting you can do quite a lot laps more. With 50% races it looks like it's really a question between 1 or none stop on most tracks. Admittedly the better my team gets the fewer pit strategy choices but the 'standard' one I seem to have anyway.
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medal 5000
6 years 357 days ago
The speed difference between the tyres doesn't need increasing, That's just crazy!

Brand new SS with 27L of fuel, out runs S with 9L of fuel that are not even 40% wore out yet and leaves them for dust.
You want to speed them up even more just because the pit time gets increased?
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medal 5000
6 years 356 days ago
No, I absolutely don't want that. The gaps between super soft and soft and perhaps soft and medium are already too wide for my taste. The only one that I won't mind slightly wider is the one between medium and hard but without increasing the overall difference between SS and H. But if stops take longer and they are not increased it means 50% races are 1 stop at most because you just can't make up the lost time for two. That's why I don't want 9-10s longer stops and think that your roundabout 3-4 seconds for the speed limit might already be too much.

Thinking about it, it would be something else if fuel amount would have an impact on refill time though, that would counter the impact of longer pit stops on more stop strategies as well. Should be enough for your speed limit suggestion at least.
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medal 5000
6 years 356 days ago
Hards are too hard and Supersofts are too soft if wanting any tyre to work on a track.
Japan with 83% & 70% TE
SS 13%
S 8%
M 4%
H 2%

FE 100% is 1 litre less than 84% economy
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