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Start of season car design (Elite) - Ignore for now

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Frank Thomas Moderator
4 years 305 days ago

If you lock the league but want to let manager join both for the first race and less of a penalty (or old ones wanting to be clever and leave/rejoin before noticing they can't get back in now) then you could make a rule/requirement that those manager will have to join with an active CD with 3.5 stars (or less). For a switch from 15 to 20 races 3.5 stars should (as there's sometimes a slight difference between stars shown and the value taken for calculation) result in a slightly inferior design for newcomers than the one the old teams could manage.

Of course such a rule would also be possible without making the league private but then it might cause more trouble with people joining without doing some reading first.

Francesco Pennisi
4 years 304 days ago

thank you

Louis Lambert
4 years 266 days ago

Hi Kevin!

Have you already tested if the strenght/weakness of a CD as an actual impact on race performances ?

Cheers,
Louis

Kevin Bissell Super Mod
4 years 266 days ago

Hi Louis

I haven't carried out any testing for CD strength /weakness on race pace. To be honest I wouldn't have any idea how to carry out such tests. There are so many variables which can affect race pace, trying to isolate one of these (CD strength/weakness) whilst keeping everything else constant would be almost impossible.

AFAIK the strength and weakness only affect next season design and research.

Louis Lambert
4 years 266 days ago (Last edited by Louis Lambert 4 years 266 days ago)

Thanks for such a fast answer!!

Indeed difficult to run... would require 2 managers with same lvl/car/ pilot stats (even height) on a monotonous pace to see if one make it faster.

I am trying to figure out what is the secret to start at the front in the early season with a lower lvl than the competition (and considering optimum car development from previous season). Or since we run in teams, to start as close as possible from one another, considering the development of the car being quasi identical.

Gio Vanilla
4 years 266 days ago (Last edited by Gio Vanilla 4 years 266 days ago)

Kevin

Yes he will be penalised. Anyone joining a league which has already run at least one race of the season is disadvantaged.
https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/14630
Currently the only way to level the playing field if you want to change the number of races between one season and the next but still allow newcomers to join is for everyone to leave and re-join.

Hello,
I want to expand my league from 15 to 20 races a season .
I allready did setup the calendar for next season .
If i set up a password for the break and nobody enters the league , will development of all cars be ok then ?
I ask this as i don't want to screw up our beautifull league .

Wambou Wambou
4 years 266 days ago

Yes it should be fine, since no newcomers will enter and have design based on league length that has grown.
All managers already in the league will have the design based on previous season

Gio Vanilla
4 years 266 days ago

Wambou

Yes it should be fine, since no newcomers will enter and have design based on league length that has grown.
All managers already in the league will have the design based on previous season

tx for the clarification ;)

Kevin Bissell Super Mod
4 years 265 days ago

Gianfranco

Kevin

Yes he will be penalised. Anyone joining a league which has already run at least one race of the season is disadvantaged.
https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/14630
Currently the only way to level the playing field if you want to change the number of races between one season and the next but still allow newcomers to join is for everyone to leave and re-join.

Hello,
I want to expand my league from 15 to 20 races a season .
I allready did setup the calendar for next season .
If i set up a password for the break and nobody enters the league , will development of all cars be ok then ?
I ask this as i don't want to screw up our beautifull league .

Hi Gianfranco

This particular exploit has been closed by the developers so you no longer need to worry about it. As of 27 days ago anyone joining a league in the break between seasons will now get a starting design based on the number of races in the PREVIOUS season. So newcomers to the league no longer get a stronger design than the established teams.

Please read this... Initial design for teams joining a new league

Wambou Wambou
4 years 265 days ago

That’s true, I forgot about that...

Gio Vanilla
4 years 265 days ago

so , no need for the password trick anymore ?

Kevin Bissell Super Mod
4 years 265 days ago

Gianfranco

so , no need for the password trick anymore ?

No, you can allow anyone to join in the break and they will only have the same total design points that is possible for anyone else in the league. They can be equally as strong but not stronger.

Gio Vanilla
4 years 265 days ago

Kevin

Gianfranco

so , no need for the password trick anymore ?

No, you can allow anyone to join in the break and they will only have the same total design points that is possible for anyone else in the league. They can be equally as strong but not stronger.

great news , tx !

Andrew Argon
4 years 260 days ago (Last edited by Andrew Argon 4 years 260 days ago)

Kevin

Yes he will be penalised. Anyone joining a league which has already run at least one race of the season is disadvantaged.
https://igpmanager.com/forum-thread/14630
Currently the only way to level the playing field if you want to change the number of races between one season and the next but still allow newcomers to join is for everyone to leave and re-join.

Hi. First off, this guide is all great from top to bottom!

Thank you Kevin.

Edit: I forgot to read the second page of this thread... Now that I read the rest of comment is useless..... Sorry :D

Now, it occurred to me that as a Host you may establish the rules, and tell everyone that anybody who quits at the end of the season will not be allowed in again before the next season's first race. And you kick anybody who rejoins in this way.
That would work right?!

Kevin Bissell Super Mod
4 years 260 days ago

I may have to delete some of the posts in this thread because they are misleading since the developers recently changed the rules for people joining between seasons.

How it WAS working up to about a month ago was that people joining would get a start design based on the number of races in NEXT season. This gave an advantage to a new joiner if next season had more races than previous season because all of the established teams would have their design based on (for example) 15 races whereas the newcomer could have a design based on (for example) 20 races. This gave the newcomer a big advantage and the only way that the established managers could get the same advantage was to leave and re-join the league.

IMPORTANT CHANGE...
About a month ago the developers changed the rules so that the start of season design for joiners is now based on the number of races in the PREVIOUS season. This means that newcomers no longer get a design advantage when the number of races increases from one season to the next.

So, in conclusion you can now ignore people who leave and re-join because most of the time they will not get any advantage from doing this. The only time they might get an improved design is if they find a better CD late in the season. Even then they will not get a stronger car than other managers, it will only be stronger than the car they would have had if they had not left and re-joined (if that makes sense LOL)

Paul Skyeladder
4 years 253 days ago

Hi, this is curious one.
I can only assume that it has something to do with the latest update because I haven't seen it before.
Our season ended yesterday, a few hours after the update. Everyone in Elite seems to have the expected standard design points with an extra few points for CD strength and a few less for weakness. But the 2 people who were promoted from Pro to Elite have a massive increase in their design points compared to everyone else, I'm talking what looks like 20 points.
Neither are new members, the most recent joined a couple of seasons ago, our season length has been 20 races for the last couple of seasons and last season, we didn't have this big difference. If it was one area, I wouldn't be concerned but it's all 8. Has anyone any thoughts?

Kevin Bissell Super Mod
4 years 253 days ago

Hi Paul.

I'm considering taking this guide down for a while until I get my head around what impact the latest update has on the advice I am giving.

For now I recommend that people don't use the guidance contained in this thread to make any development decisions.

Sorry for the misinformation, it's outside my control.

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