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DRS in wet races

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Yes
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medal 5001
3 years 51 days ago

Moaning

Slo

Diego
Gian
I propose to increase the threshold of the active drs in wet races from 1mm to 4mm, in order to make the live more exciting in most of these races, and still retain the ability to manage the deactivation of the drs in case of increased rain.

I agree with you Gian because wet races are really boring.
Fabrizio
As Slo, Dillion and Gerard have said, these races may be the only time the smaller team score point.

Make the wet race like the dry race for DRS (with DRS every lap, because rain mostly stop at 3,8mm) what chance the small team got to score point?

No point > no interest in always 15. or 17. place > leave game > game get smaller

You say that the "low levels" have opportunities only in wet races and that without these races they would quit the game.
the "low levels" do not learn to play thanks to the wet races!!




If it wasnt for a rainy race, i would ve been relegated in my first elite season. I was level 12 amid level 19 and 20s. Those wet races were my only hope.


Don’t forget relegation for such a team is a disaster, not only in motivation, also in building up xp. Amid level 20 the gain in xp is high, meaning you increase levels faster which in turn makes you more competitive.

Beeing relegated at that point would’ve meant i would’ve reached level 20 at least one month later then i have been able to.


But someone else who did better in the dry then got relegated instead of you? 


The game is about skill and tactics and building your car up to the higher levels. If you’re not good enough to stay in the elite level without the fluke of a wet race where you qualify well, then so be it, better luck next season. I’m not saying it to be horrible, I had to work my way up like everyone else.

Wet races are difficult because of the lack of chance to overtake without using kers, so the suggestion of DRS is just an option because there is no other on the table. Especially with how random qualifying can be


I used my skills and tactic in the wet to not get relegated, in order to gain more xp and thus build my car up faster to the higher levels, which is what the game is all about.


The fluke of the wet races is part of the tactics and game mechanics in my opinion, i used it to my advantage. 

Imo, no need to change drs as it would only benefit the higher level players.
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medal 5125
3 years 50 days ago
I’m not knocking you for staying up and using it to your advantage. You’ve described it perfectly by saying “the fluke of the wet race”, it shouldn’t be about flukes. Though I’ve never known flukes to be part of someone’s tactics 🤦🏻‍♂️

It doesn’t just benefit the higher level players, it benefits the better racers. There’s a big difference between the two.

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medal 5001
3 years 50 days ago (Last edited by Antonio Ascari 3 years 50 days ago)
Moaning
I’m not knocking you for staying up and using it to your advantage. You’ve described it perfectly by saying “the fluke of the wet race”, it shouldn’t be about flukes. Though I’ve never known flukes to be part of someone’s tactics 🤦🏻‍♂️

It doesn’t just benefit the higher level players, it benefits the better racers. There’s a big difference between the two.



No sir, with lower level kers and boost, you can be as good as you want to, in a competitive league you won’t earn scratch in dry races, not until you hit level 18 ish.

Opening up drs as we know it today to 4mm would take opportunities away from lower level managers and it would change wet races into drs-train races and those are never won by lower level managers. Not in a competitive league. It doesn’t take a good racer to hold onto a drs train so it doesn’t benefit the better racers.

The fluke of the wet race, English is not my mother tongue, i mean that wet point-scoring opportunity races are a rare thing for a lower level manager, not something that happens every day. And as a manager, you should seize this opportunity when it opens up, in that way it should be part of your tactics to go all in for those races.

I think you forgot the struggle these managers are in, parts, engines, upgrading buildings, hiring and firing staff. Lower level managers’ car development only gets near the level 20 ones near the end of the season so a well timed wet race near the end of season is not a common thing.

Then there’s the realism part. Heavy rain and drs, in my view is not realistic at all. I know not all parts of the game are realistic but drs at about 4mm, it would bug me, seems to be reckless and takes the gist out of the game for me.

The game as it is, is a grown up pretty realistic game. It doesn’t ask to buy boxes or present paying boxes, x parts to upgrade wings to level 2 and so on, its a grown up racing game which is hard to come by these days.

Activating drs in heavy rain would be the opposite, it would take the game closer to Mario Kart, hence it would bug me and take the gist out of the game.

So for me is a no go, all due respect Gian, wet races can be boring, but in my honest opinion, opening up drs to 4mm would not be the solution.

Moaning, i’m not gonna elaborate any further, i know you like to discuss endlessly, i’m not going there.
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medal 5125
3 years 50 days ago
You say that after you’ve just written an essay....

The reason I put my suggestions and agree with others isn’t to make it easier for elite drivers, it’s to make it more about the skills of the drivers and tactics. 

Saying you don’t like it because it is unrealistic and doesn’t feel right at 4mm, is perfectly reasonable, I completely agree. I said I agreed with it because there is a lack of another option at the moment, and qualifying is already massively flawed/random, which makes wet races all pot luck. It’s all about qualifying, which is wrong, especially as when half the time you may as well draw lots to decide where you start from. 

 
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medal 5000
3 years 50 days ago
It's a really tough question. For the sake of realism I'd say no, or maybe activate it below 1mm. For the sake of making wet races less dependent on qualifying results I'd say yes, because they can be like a precession with equally matched teams. 
Even though I'm level 20 though, so would stand to gain from DRS in the wet, I have to say no overall. I remember being level 13 or 14 in elite, against 8 or 10 level 20 managers, and the wet or changeable races were my one chance to get amongst them with it being more equal. I wouldn't want to deny up and coming managers those opportunities 👍
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medal 5000
3 years 49 days ago

Dome
perhaps it would be more useful to make overtaking easier in case of rain.  it is now virtually impossible to overtake a much slower car without using thrust.  in my last race in malaysia it stopped raining while i was in the pits and i had mounted the w, i decided on a whim not to return and finish the race with the w, with 1 mm of water a runner with intermediates remained behind me  for three laps when he finally managed to overtake he gave me 4 seconds per lap .....



Stop it already!!!! Now you're just making sense here... pft... lol!!


But seriously, this is a solid idea!!!  It's got excitement written all over it. More importantly, it gets everyone involved. 

I know slo.... there go any chances lower level managers may have had... Life isn't always fair...  
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medal 5000
3 years 49 days ago
I think Gian suggested the drs because just making overtakes easier must be difficult for the devs (best solution, that I'm sure they already considered).
Wet races need a change. Lower level managers should ask to weaken the drs instead of just hoping in rain (?!)
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medal 5000
3 years 46 days ago
personally i dont like it for i like it when its realistic and in real life drs is not not in f1 when it rains 
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